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	<title>Comments on: &quot;An extremely rare and even more bizarre artifact&quot;</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:10:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;An extremely rare and even more bizarre artifact&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.praguepost.com/articles/2007/09/12/satanic-inspiration.php&quot;&gt;Legend has it that the world&apos;s biggest bible is the work of the Devil&lt;/a&gt;. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/codex-gigas/eng/&quot;&gt;Codex Gigas&lt;/a&gt; (Giant Book), also known as the Devil&apos;s Bible, is the largest medieval manuscript in the world. Housed at the Swedish National Library since the 17th century, it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.praguemonitor.com/en/174/life_in_the_czech_republic/12362/&quot;&gt;recently returned to the Czech Republic &lt;/a&gt; (it originated in a monastery in Bohemia) for display. The book contains an entire pre-Vulgate version of the Latin bible, as well as various other texts and illustrations, including calendars, medical formulas and local records. You can browse the complete Codex Gigas in high resolution &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/codex-gigas/eng/Browse-the-Manuscript/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:53:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>amyms</dc:creator>		<category>codexgigas</category>		<category>devilsbible</category>		<category>manuscript</category>		<category>bible</category>		<category>medieval</category>
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		<title>By: misteraitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850915</link>	
		<description>Cool, thanks amyms--I heard about this a couple of weeks back (I saw a story about it in one of the Swedish papers) but couldn&apos;t find the complete digitised book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:10:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850917</link>	
		<description>This just sounds like viral advertising for &lt;em&gt;The Gygax Code&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:17:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zouhair</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850918</link>	
		<description>Nice finding!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:20:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrogin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850924</link>	
		<description>I never realized that medieval scribes used lined hides to write on.  Looking at the devil page, it looks like the author could have used a grid system to transpose the image from a cheaper medium.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:29:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_cola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850939</link>	
		<description>I am in ur biblz stealing ur soulz</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:12:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soundofsuburbia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850942</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s very impressive to witness The Codex Gigas in person, as well.  Do it if you ever get the chance, I say!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:18:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rob511</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850960</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Made of the skins of about 160 animals &#8212; some say donkeys, others say calves &#8212; the manuscript measures a king-size 90 x 50 x 22 centimeters (roughly 36 x 20 x 9 inches) and weighs 75 kilos (165 pounds), requiring two people to lift it.&lt;/i&gt;

Christ, what an ass-scroll!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:06:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850961</link>	
		<description>Wow. Fascinating stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:09:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pantufla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850964</link>	
		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:21:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sparx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850971</link>	
		<description>All bibles are the work of the devil.  The devil&apos;s greatest trick was convincing us he wasn&apos;t using a pseudonym.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:08:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RokkitNite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850972</link>	
		<description>Only the Devil could have penned a book with such a deeply kick-ass name.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:09:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mojojojo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850978</link>	
		<description>My hand cramped in sympathy for the author&apos;s/artist&apos;s efforts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:27:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1850998</link>	
		<description>Not to be confused with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slipups.com/items/901.html&quot;&gt;The Wicked Bible&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:38:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Straightener</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851003</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/KBCodexGigas/OverviewCodexGigas.aspx?id=6801&amp;mode=1&amp;page=577#content&quot;&gt;Dude.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:51:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851011</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Christ, what an ass-scroll!&lt;/i&gt;

rob511 wins, hands down!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:13:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851015</link>	
		<description>Nifty, and I mean the book itself, the return, and the fact that its all scanned and available online.  Thanks amyms.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:24:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851048</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; the fact that a primarily religious work includes codified pagan and mystical beliefs makes the book an extremely rare and even more bizarre artifact.&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;d like to see what they are referring to here. Medieval iconography can be confusing for the modern reader who might imagine the Middle Ages as some sort of pure Christian ideal, which is far from the truth. Pagan imagery and mysticism were very common. For example the early 13th century, when this codex was made, was the height of the Gothic Cathedral with its gargoyles and devil statues and pagan references abound. That doesn&apos;t mean they were heretical, it all fit and worked if you know the iconography and how to decode it.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/KBCodexGigas/OverviewCodexGigas.aspx?id=6801&amp;mode=1&amp;page=577#content&quot;&gt;picture of the devil&lt;/a&gt; opposes an image of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/KBCodexGigas/OverviewCodexGigas.aspx?id=6800&amp;mode=1&amp;page=576#content&quot;&gt;multi-level tower&lt;/a&gt;, which has 9 floors ie. the 9 levels of hell that Dante would go on to make so famous in &lt;i&gt;The Inferno&lt;/i&gt;. It looks a lot like a level from a 1980s video game with the Boss devil at the bottom.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:14:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dances_with_sneetches</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851064</link>	
		<description>The Codex Giggity-giggity, the Magna Carta. . . didn&apos;t Nostradamus warn us about the migration of ancient texts?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:30:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851085</link>	
		<description>How big is it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:00:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851086</link>	
		<description>Oh, so that&apos;s what preview is for!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:00:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851092</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;stbalbach&lt;/b&gt; Yeah.  My History of Christianity class spent a few days on the mixtures of Christian and non-Christian imagery in art, artifacts, etc.  

And, for that matter the mixing of non-Christian ideas into Christianity out in the hinterlands.  There was an account by a monk traveling out to the German wilderness in which he expressed shock at the fact that many priests were completely unfamiliar with Church docterne, were preaching what was basically heresy, and often got even the most basic words in the rituals wrong.  He cited specifically one priest who blessed people &quot;in the name of the Father, the Daughter, and the Spirit of Knowledge&quot;.  Not, apparently out of any deliberate attempt to subvert the trinity, but due to the fact that the priest in question apparently didn&apos;t speak Latin well.

Still, the mixing of Christian and non-Christian imagery in art, while hardly rare, is interesting from a socio-historic standpoint.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:06:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jedicus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851126</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The picture of the devil opposes an image of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/KBCodexGigas/OverviewCodexGigas.aspx?id=6800&amp;mode=1&amp;page=576#content&quot;&gt;multi-level tower&lt;/a&gt;, which has 9 floors ie. the 9 levels of hell that Dante would go on to make so famous in The Inferno. It looks a lot like a level from a 1980s video game with the Boss devil at the bottom.&lt;/em&gt;

The page you linked to as well as some other pages at the site indicate that the tower is the Heavenly City, not a depiction of hell.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:35:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: R_Nebblesworth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851144</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kb.se/codex-gigas/eng/Browse-the-Manuscript/Djavulen/?=&amp;mode=1&amp;page=577#content&quot;&gt;The devil&lt;/a&gt; is the Black Beast of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Beast_of_Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh&quot;&gt;AAAAAARGH?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:55:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851171</link>	
		<description>I see &quot;heavenly city&quot; on the far left column but does that refer to the image on the page, or the name of the Book/chapter? It could be heaven, I just made the assumption based on the devil on the facing page and the 9 levels and everything is in red (fire) and what looks like red flames on some of the levels.

Ok I zoomed into the city and it does look more heavenly than hellish in the details. I guess the juxtaposition of the city and the devil is just that, heaven and hell.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:20:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fleetmouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851176</link>	
		<description>SCROLLXTIANS</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:23:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kid Charlemagne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851189</link>	
		<description>Modern interpretation of medieval art is also a hit and miss thing.  I have seen a couple pieces of artwork refering to judgement where a man sits in a ballance being weighed against something, while a little demon trys to throw off the measure earning eternal damnation, etc.  (At least one of these is in the Victoria and Albert in London.  I can&apos;t remember where the other(s) is/are.)

I have seen this spun both ways.  In one, it is Christ&apos;s saving grace in the other pan and the man makes it into heaven, in the other it is his sins in the other pan and the little demon is there to drag him down to hell.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peecabu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851207</link>	
		<description>This is great, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:57:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851222</link>	
		<description>sotonohito, yeah this was pretty common throughout the middle ages. My favorite example is one reason Protestantism was so well accepted is because country preachers wouldn&apos;t preach in Church, they would stand behind a screen, mumble gibberish that sounded Latin-like, and then walk away (after taking donations).

The Dominican Order was created in the 13th century for the purpose of teaching preachers how to properly read and interpret the Bible.

Kid Charlemagne, &quot;great&quot; name :) There is also humor in Medieval iconography it may have been intentional irony?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:15:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851280</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Around midnight, the monk realized he would not be able to finish by daylight, so he invoked the devil to help him, selling his soul in the process.&lt;/em&gt;

Such utter bullshit. All we did was sit around for a couple of hours snorting coke. He got all fidgety and I blazed out of there. I never touched his soul.

And the likeness is totally off, he must have been just tripping balls at that point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:58:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sukiari</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851485</link>	
		<description>Neat stuff, but it&apos;s too bad about the stupid image browser.

Why not just let us download high resolution images directly?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:54:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kryptondog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1851636</link>	
		<description>Fascinating find.  Great post, thanks.

I&apos;ve got to agree with Sukiari about the image browser.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:14:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eritain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/65035/An-extremely-rare-and-even-more-bizarre-artifact#1852737</link>	
		<description>All the cooler for being a Vetus Latina text.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:05:47 -0800</pubDate>
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