Comments on: Theoretical Geography

Theoretical Geography

blahblahblah — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:08:36 -0800

The Map of Humanity [large .jpg] created by illustrator James Turner is an effort to describe the human condition in an incredibly detailed map containing thousands of names from history and fiction arranged in a theoretical geography that encompasses islands of Abandonment and Wisdom and regions of Abomination and Courage.

By: frobozz

frobozz — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:21:26 -0800

I love that Hobbiton is in Tranquility (to the east of ... Bangor?)

By: PhatLobley

PhatLobley — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:37:14 -0800

I'm moving to the Isle of Jerks so I can finally fit in. In other words: Screw you guys, I'm going home.

By: evinrude

evinrude — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:40:48 -0800

This is fantastic.

By: GavinR

GavinR — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:48:41 -0800

Uhhhhhhh.......interesting?

By: cmyk

cmyk — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:49:42 -0800

Oh, that's outstanding. Is there a bigger version online? Half the fun of this thing is all the place names, and my eyes are old and busted.

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:50:40 -0800

It's kind of interesting that some cities appear in more than one place (Chicago, for example). I love stuff like this.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:51:20 -0800

It would be nice if wasn't scaled down so far that you can't read the small letters. (busted eyes or no, there are just not enough pixels)

By: blahblahblah

blahblahblah — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:53:50 -0800

For the better version, you have to buy the poster, apparently. Its 2x3 feet and costs $29.95.

By: vrakatar

vrakatar — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:57:07 -0800

my 'puter died two months ago, and the shit-ass laptop i'm using as a stopgap can't let me dig into the map. And i could spend hours digging this map. sadkatar.

By: themadjuggler

themadjuggler — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:01:26 -0800

Seattle is the capital of Freedom. Prague is the capital of Depression.

By: nickyskye

nickyskye — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:19:21 -0800

Wow. Awesome! Love maps of all kinds. This one is delightful. Theoretical geography, something interesting to ponder. It was depicted in Saul Steinberg's well known cartoon of how New Yorkers experience the world. Can imagine StrangeMaps will love this James Turner opus. Thanks for the fun post blahblahblah. I kept dreading where NYC would turn up and felt relieved he was kind putting it the State/Province of Wonder.

By: nomis

nomis — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:27:45 -0800

Cool concept, beautifully executed. I like that my current home (Melbourne) is so close to my real home (Auckland) - I could take a bus! (via Hamburg!) Added bonus, I can see Utopia from here.

By: Kattullus

Kattullus — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:31:39 -0800

That's so my desktop now. Some of it's pretty witty. Libidinous Islands *snarf*

By: bonehead

bonehead — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:38:11 -0800

Springfeild appears to be the capital of Mirth (located on the continent of Wisdom, oddly enough).

By: fe2dell

fe2dell — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:52:09 -0800

Be nice if there is a bigger version you can zoom in on!

By: omarr

omarr — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:57:54 -0800

I was with him all the way up to Paris Hilton Penninsula[sic]. nickyskye, thanks for the great Strange Maps link!

By: kuujjuarapik

kuujjuarapik — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:03:35 -0800

I cannot stand people who misspell "intolerance". There oughta be a law against that.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:15:48 -0800

I seem to be marooned somewhere between Abandonment & Depression. I knew I should have taken that left at Albertcamus.

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:20:16 -0800

ZEALOTRY claims one American city, and it is Seattle???

By: jtron

jtron — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:29:26 -0800

Hollywood is on there, like, four times.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:33:32 -0800

I can see this map proudly adorning the back of every toilet door in every liberal arts college share household, until somebody finally decides that it's just too late-noughties & it is banished to Passé Island*. * also known as rolled up & gathering dust on top of the wardrobe, because even though it's corny & passed it's use-by date, it's still too good to throw away

By: tss

tss — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:04:53 -0800

St. Louis is squarely in the middle of "Hate"? :-( <wonders why> East St. Louis? Segregation? Maybe, but lots of cities have the same problem... Anheuser Busch? Monsanto? The Dredd Scott decision? Detroit Tigers fan? Am pleased to see New Harmony in "Goals", near Auckland, though. "House on the Rock" is further north. Slightly obscure and Midwestern, hmm.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:27:26 -0800

Ah, finally found it, and had my thoughts confirmed. Sydney's about as close as you can possibly get to Utopia.

By: tehloki

tehloki — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:03:38 -0800

I love how the capitol of Utopia is "Aircastle".

By: the cydonian

the cydonian — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:44:01 -0800

Singapore is at the southern tip of Industry?! What the heck. Clearly, the cartographer hasn't heard of the historical Bugis Street, or Geylang or present-day Changi Village. Hell, he probably hasn't even been to Tanjong Pagar, after the sun goes down. Rumours of Singapore's industriousness are greatly exaggerated, folks. Yeah, so Bugis Village is now a vast mall, but really, we're only a bus-stop away from Bangkok, albeit in a gentrifying neighbourhood. Or perhaps we could argue that Singapore was in the middle of Lust, before it moved away to the tip of the map with all this Asian Tigers jujitsu?

By: the cydonian

the cydonian — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:33:01 -0800

Additionally, I found the following interesting:- 1) He's put four great historical centers of their respective civilizations, Mexico City, Baghdad, Delhi and Cairo, in Poverty (while wholly ignoring such vast real-world areas of poverty as Dharavi). 2) Baghdad makes a reappearance in Tyranny. 3) Angkor Wat makes it to Abandonment. Not Angkor Thom, which is the once-two-million-strong megalopolis that was taken over by the forest. Angkor Wat is the temple, not the city, and was never abandoned; even when the first French explorers came, the Vishnu temple existed as a Buddhist monastery. 4) Phnom Penh is also in the Abandonment island. Which is interesting, considering that its current population is 2 million. 5) Ironically though, New Orleans, which presumably had its population reduced after Katrina, is in Lust. Detroit, too, which saw a reduction in its population from 1.6 million in the 1960's to 950,000 now (wiki), finds itself in Industry, next to Hong Kong. While I'm sure I've over-thought this plate of beans, I have to say that this otherwise great effort could have been even better with a little bit more thought. :-)

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:47:06 -0800

Half the fun of this thing is all the place names, and my eyes are old and busted. Virtual Magnifying Glass

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:03:39 -0800

Wow that thing is dated. I mean, Detroit the capital of Industry? Yeah, perhaps in 1952. Guangzhou is in Aimlessness. Again, yeah, maybe in 1952. Also Moscow is both in Aimlessness and the capital of Tyranny.

By: Jess the Mess

Jess the Mess — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:36:40 -0800

Atlanta's in Slavery. Maybe position is determined by over-all historical flavor. Thus New Orleans being in Lust, rather than Devastation or whatever.

By: Miko

Miko — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:59:24 -0800

St. Louis is squarely in the middle of "Hate"? :-( I'm guessing Dred Scott. But there would have been better choices.

By: Miko

Miko — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:00:48 -0800

I don't think you can spend too much time trying to figure out how a city was 'determined' to be somewhere. This is the product of individual association and is highly idiosyncratic, though cool. My point is, we'd all have made our own conceptual maps differently. This artist actually did the work.

By: Miko

Miko — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:03:14 -0800

psst. You might also enjoy his Exquisite Corpse robot.

By: LordSludge

LordSludge — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:40:52 -0800

Scanning the map, trying to figure where I would live... Utopia seems nice.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:07:10 -0800

I can't find Toronto :(

By: cardboard

cardboard — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:19:00 -0800

Toronto is on the coast of the Sea of Tranquility, on the west coast of the south-east peninsula of the Island of Wisdom, near Vancouver and Victoria and just about every other Canadian city but Montreal.

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:31:17 -0800

While I'm sure I've over-thought this plate of beans, I have to say that this otherwise great effort could have been even better with a little bit more thought. I would like the fridge magnet version or online app in the same spirit. Then we could compare.

By: blahblahblah

blahblahblah — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:13:08 -0800

I liked the names of the rivers in Self-Love, but I do think he is going for his resonance between places and the concepts, rather than tying particular real-life attributes of each city to its location.

By: vorfeed

vorfeed — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:05:57 -0800

LANL is in the land of Answers, but Los Alamos is in Fool's Paradise. Seems like a killer commute!

By: splatta

splatta — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:24:38 -0800

I like that my hometown of Philadelphia is prominently featured in the "Freedom" province, but I don't like how he misspelled it.