Comments on: Protecting Whistleblowers, You Bet!

Protecting Whistleblowers, You Bet!

Kirth Gerson — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:02:20 -0800

Congress at Work The U.S. House Judiciary Committee sends an email to all persons who had sent messages to its "tip line." The email described the measures the committee was taking to safeguard the tipsters' identities. All the the email recipients' addresses were in the To: field. Oops.

"Compounding the mistake, the committee later sent out a second email attempting to recall the original email; it, too, included all recipients in the "to:" field, according to a recipient of the emails."

By: Gungho

Gungho — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:06:45 -0800

How do you 'recall' an email? In other news "naive tipsters use real email addresses"

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:08:12 -0800

How do you 'recall' an email? Some email clients do obey recall messages, apparently.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:09:36 -0800

Oh well. Since they are congress they can just pass a law protecting congressional whistle blowers. I'm sure the bush administration will totally obey it.

By: jiiota

jiiota — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:10:03 -0800

From the article:

Some of the email addresses appear to be transparently fake, but there's also, much more troubling, a vice_president@whitehouse.gov carbon copied on the email, which is the public email address for Vice President Dick Cheney. In other words, an email containing the email addresses of all the whistleblowers who had written in to the committee tipline was sent to public email address of Vice President Cheney.

By: FelliniBlank

FelliniBlank — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:14:02 -0800

"Say, what does this 'bcc' thing mean, anyhow?" "Bonehead Congressional cunts."

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:25:17 -0800

I'm supposed to believe this was an accident?

By: caddis

caddis — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:25:58 -0800

Incompetence is not limited to Republicans.

By: DenOfSizer

DenOfSizer — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:28:20 -0800

LOLREPRESENTATIVZ

By: XQUZYPHYR

XQUZYPHYR — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:36:35 -0800

This is a disaster so great only FEMA can handle... Oh Jesus.

By: DreamerFi

DreamerFi — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:57:23 -0800

What an excellent demonstration of Grey's Law: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."

By: kcds

kcds — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:59:44 -0800

Heckuva job, guys!

By: rockhopper

rockhopper — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:07:42 -0800

Damn you George Bush!1!!1 *shakes fist at sky*

By: smackfu

smackfu — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:09:41 -0800

which is the public email address for Vice President Dick Cheney Man, that must be a fun email address to monitor.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:32:46 -0800

Who sent the mail and which member do they work for?

By: trondant

trondant — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:35:52 -0800

Email follies? This will wendell.

By: GreyFoxVT

GreyFoxVT — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:59:32 -0800

Yet another reason why congress needs to be FLUSHED! Vote the idiots OUT. They can't make good on their promises because they're too worried about being reelected. They need to GO...all of them. The next election we need to bring in new representatives who will ACTUALLY vote the people's voice. Vote out all incumbents in 2008!

By: matteo

matteo — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:04:45 -0800

what's Ted Stevens's take on this?

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:08:19 -0800

Vote out all incumbents in 2008! I would dearly like to see this happen. EXCEPT - because there are not viable third-party candidates in most districts, dumping all the incumbents would probably turn Congress over to a new crop of Republicans.

By: kingfisher, his musclebound cat

kingfisher, his musclebound cat — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:20:16 -0800

Having all the email addresses in a to: or cc: line is a common error for many people who attempt mass emails. It doesn't excuse the mistake, but it does make me feel sorry for the intern or whoever was asked to send this out and just didn't know how to be careful. It's a fuckup on a grand level that is most likely to come down the hardest on the person who sent out the mail rather than the person who delegated the task. As for the Cheney email appearing, I can see how that is disconcerting for some, but I cc: vice_president@whitehouse.gov on everything anyway. Not sure what the big deal about that is.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:21:30 -0800

They can't make good on their promises because they're too worried about being reelected. This statement makes no sense, as if they were worried about getting reelected, they'd be paying more attention to the people. Or maybe they are and there are people with different views than yours.

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:41:00 -0800

If "con" is the opposite of "pro," then "Congress" is the opposite of "progress."

By: CautionToTheWind

CautionToTheWind — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:48:17 -0800

Seppuku. It is the only way.

By: Nelson

Nelson — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:54:40 -0800

Having all the email addresses in a to: or cc: line is a common error for many people who attempt mass emails. Yep. And depending on your mail client, it can be very difficult to figure out how to send mail to 150 people without putting them in those fields. Bcc is not always clearly available. Mail clients should have a little warning. If there are more than 10 commas in the To or Cc field, just a little confirmation dialog.

By: willie11

willie11 — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:36:13 -0800

Congressional leadership and the DCCC spam me with fundraising e-mails every week, obviously using a half-decent e-mail blast program that disguises it's recipients. This is just sloppy work. Whoever is responsible for this should be fired. That person's boss should be fired. Perhaps the congressman for whom they worked should loose his committee assignment. It's only fair because this screw-up is going to cause a lot of people to loose their jobs. This is unacceptable.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:54:59 -0800

It's only fair because this screw-up is going to cause a lot of people to loose their jobs Or get them "accidented".

By: enn

enn — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:22:26 -0800

because there are not viable third-party candidates in most districts, dumping all the incumbents would probably turn Congress over to a new crop of Republicans. Scared Republicans, though.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:36:04 -0800

The last time you had scared Republicans, you lost your right to habeas corpus.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:11:41 -0800

Gungho writes "How do you 'recall' an email?" Corporate email packages like Outlook and Notes support fairly robust message recall facilities. The implementation in consumer oriented packages is spotty at best. Unfortunately for many people what ever package they use at work is email. The thought of anyone using something without that exact feature set never occurs to them.

By: Skygazer

Skygazer — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:40:03 -0800

vice_president@whitehouse.gov Oooohhh.....I know someone who's going to be getting a lot of offers for penis enlargement. but I don't think that will be much help for someone who is a gigantic c*nt.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:17:38 -0800

Kirth Gerson writes "because there are not viable third-party candidates in most districts, dumping all the incumbents would probably turn Congress over to a new crop of Republicans." The system is rigged this way. Winner-take-all voting ensures that we'll only ever have two viable parties and voting third party will almost always be throwing your vote away. If you want to change this, agitate for instant-runoff elections.

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:51:09 -0800

I don't plan to vote ever again until it's made mandatory to vote. Until over fifty percent of American citizens are compelled to vote, it's a vocal minority that gets their way anyway. You guys are making wisecracks about politics messing up with email? We still have the Electoral College. That messes up everything. This entire process is a lie. What difference does it make that a spam has a list of recipients in it? This looks like watching people melt an iceberg with a box of matches. I had no idea the end of civilization would be so entertaining.

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:59:13 -0800

Oh, and before anyone starts, you can argue all you want: I don't classify fascism as civilized behavior. And I understand the irony of that: we can't MAKE people vote without resorting to fascism. Isn't it FUN how that works out? Like I said, very entertaining.

By: TheDonF

TheDonF — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:12:06 -0800

It's only fair because this screw-up is going to cause a lot of people to loose their jobs What, your screw-up in not being able to spell "lose"? That hardly seems fair.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:20:23 -0800

The system is rigged this way. Winner-take-all voting ensures that we'll only ever have two viable parties and voting third party will almost always be throwing your vote away. It certainly is rigged to be a two player system in the US but it isn't winner take all that does it. If it isn't too unamerican an idea you might want to take a peak at some other countries.

By: crossoverman

crossoverman — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:50:03 -0800

ZachsMind wrote: And I understand the irony of that: we can't MAKE people vote without resorting to fascism. Isn't it FUN how that works out? The Commonwealth of Australia would like to disagree with you. We have compulsory voting and, while currently governed by a conservative government, I hardly think we're a fascist state. Enjoy your vocal minority elected government!

By: goo

goo — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:49:30 -0800

'Compulsory' voting is a misnomer, anyway - there is no such thing. It's compulsory to submit a ballot, not necessarily to vote. "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." All too true, and bears repeating.