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      <title>Comments on: The REAL milkman of human kindness (sorry, carsonb)</title>
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  	<title>The REAL milkman of human kindness (sorry, carsonb)</title>
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    <description>In the past month, &lt;a href=&quot;http://billybragg.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Billy Bragg &lt;/a&gt;has won the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.qawards.co.uk/2007/10/billy_bragg_1.html&quot;&gt;Classic Songwriter Award from Q,&lt;/a&gt; then &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/calendar?action=production&amp;production=17971&amp;performance=17972&quot;&gt;collaborated with Beethoven&lt;/a&gt; (some of the B-Man&apos;s fans &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Forum/read.php?3,1811,page=2&quot;&gt;mutter darkly&lt;/a&gt;), and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=487796&amp;in_page_id=1770&quot;&gt;taken the hand of a small, matronly admirer&lt;/a&gt; before kindly giving it back to her, along with an autographed copy of the score. (He&apos;s prepared for the fallout: &quot;I&apos;ll probably get struck off Morrissey&apos;s Christmas card list.&quot;  ) And while he  continues to work on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jailguitardoors.org.uk/&quot;&gt;Jail Guitar Doors&lt;/a&gt;,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/64266/Jail-Guitar-Doors&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;), you can expect a new CD from him in 2008. Many old CDs available &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Forum/read.php?3,1811,page=2&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. A found stash of old cassettes straight from Billy &lt;a href=&quot;http://billybragg.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=419&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (first come, first served, no guarantees). Free downloads from Billy &lt;a href=&quot;http://billybragg.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=411&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you find his ideas interesting and want to subscribe to his newsletter.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: maudlin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892334</link>	
    <description>Damn. The &quot;many old CDs&quot; link should go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emusic.com/artist/Billy-Bragg-MP3-Download/11572306.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;small&gt;As God is my witness, I swear I checked all the links. I think I&apos;m going back to single-link YouTubery.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  	<title>By: Slarty Bartfast</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892345</link>	
    <description>Hm. 20 minutes and no comments? I have nothing more to say besides this is a nice post and I really like and respect everything Billy Bragg has chosen to do with his life. Thanks for the links.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:58:56 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Kattullus</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892347</link>	
    <description>I love Billy Bragg. My favorite of his songs is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBX1Bw-9rbU&quot;&gt;Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards&lt;/a&gt;. Who can&apos;t help but love a song that includes both the lines: &quot;If no one seems to understand/Start your own revolution, cut out the middleman&quot; and &quot;So join the struggle while you may/The Revolution is just a t-shirt away.&quot;

My favorite Billy Bragg album is Talking with the Taxman about Poetry. The LP included the entire namesake Mayakovsky poem on the back.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: djeo</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892352</link>	
    <description>I&apos;ll second &quot;Talking with the Taxman about Poetry&quot;.  It&apos;s one of the few cassettes that I (seriously) wore out while working a dead-end job at one of those pack&amp;amp;ship places.

Nice post maudlin.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:05:27 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: andraste</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892381</link>	
    <description>I love Billy too, and was charmed by his article about being charmed by the Queen. Thanks maudlin :)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:35:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: serazin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892409</link>	
    <description>Billy Bragg came into my life at that precise moment where your soundtrack of the moment is burned into your memory as the Soundtrack of Your Youth, and so listening to him inevitably makes me pine, cry, brood, or throw bricks through windows. 

I heart Billy Bragg forever.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:06:44 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: RogerB</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892411</link>	
    <description>Long way from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billybragg.co.uk/releases/albums/william_bloke/bloke6.html&quot;&gt;wanting to plant bombs at the Last Night of the Proms&lt;/a&gt;, indeed.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:07:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pompomtom</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892434</link>	
    <description>For those fans who haven&apos;t already done this, there&apos;s like a bajillion gigs recorded over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=billy%20bragg&quot;&gt;archive.org&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:22:53 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mwhybark</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892449</link>	
    <description>I was just listening to late-period St. Joe the other day, and thinking how much he owed Mr. Bragg, nearly as much as Billy owes Joe.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:34:25 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Kickstart70</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892452</link>	
    <description>Big fan. When I finally got a phone that I could put MP3s on, his were the first (ripped from a cd I own, just to be clear). I should really buy more of his music.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:41:26 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mwhybark</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892453</link>	
    <description>And may I say that while I find myself amused and bemused and not a little seduced by the canonization of old St. Joe, if canonization it&apos;s to be, make mine St. Billy, or better yet, the father-son-holy ghost trinity with Woody gazing down on the inverted image of Joe-as-Mary cradling baby Billy in arms as puttis bearing the faces of Shane, Bob, and John flit hither and thither against the denim-and-leather gilt of the iconostatsis.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:42:07 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: robcorr</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892455</link>	
    <description>I like Billy Bragg more and more all the time.

My partner recently agreed to marry me and I would very much like to play &quot;Everybody Loves You, Babe&quot; at our wedding. I am having some difficulty convincing her it is a good idea.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:43:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pompomtom</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892480</link>	
    <description>What&apos;s a &quot;St. Joe&quot;?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:08:46 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: dhartung</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892493</link>	
    <description>Twenty bucks, same as in town.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:29:57 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Kickstart70</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892523</link>	
    <description>robcorr: Just don&apos;t play Mother of the Bride.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:02:45 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: robcorr</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892541</link>	
    <description>pompomtom: Joe Strummer, surely?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:23:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Abiezer</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892623</link>	
    <description>Where&apos;s the &quot;Greatest Living Englishman&quot; tag?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:35:03 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pxe2000</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892649</link>	
    <description>I saw Billy Bragg open for the Barenaked Ladies (shut up, I was...young enough to be charmed by the BNL and have since seen the error of my ways) and he played a few really gorgeous lost-love songs that have never been recorded (such as &quot;This Gap Between Us&quot;).  It kind of bums me out that he never released those legitimately.  

As you were.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:28:19 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Jakey</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892672</link>	
    <description>Not my favourite Billy number, but just an aside prompted by noting the preceding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/66015/DiskothiQ-The-Football-Albums&quot;&gt;FPP&lt;/a&gt; - God&apos;s Footballer. Seems it was about a real footballer, &lt;a href=&quot;http://football.guardian.co.uk/theknowledge/story/0,,1941551,00.html&quot;&gt;Peter Knowles.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;Yeah, I know they were talking about the other football. &lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:58:17 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: maudlin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892704</link>	
    <description>Abiezer, I&apos;ve added &quot;diamond geezer&quot;. Will that do?

pxe2000, I also adored The Gulf Between Us (and may have a few boots of it on cassette somewhere). AFAIK, it was used on the soundtrack for &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0108022/&quot;&gt;Safe&lt;/a&gt;, but not recorded anywhere else.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:39:53 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mygothlaundry</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892767</link>	
    <description>I adore Billy Bragg and my best and bravest and most, okay, pure-D fangirl embarrassing celebrity encounter moment EVAR came in 2003 or so, when I saw him with Mike Mills and the guy from Rage Against the Machine in the anti Clear Channel tour. After the concert, I went to the press conference that they held in a big grotty hippie hall (this IS Asheville) and sat in a folding chair and then, at the end, after I walked along in the line to meet them momentarily, I kissed Billy Bragg and told him that his music had been an incredibly important part of my whole adult life - which it has - and he thanked me and smiled. 

It&apos;s pretty much been downhill ever since.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:39:10 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: hawkeye</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892776</link>	
    <description>I just saw him here in DC last week.  What an inspirational guy, with buckets and buckets of integrity.  Favorite:  &quot;The Short Answer&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:43 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: athenian</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892787</link>	
    <description>I think Billy Bragg is great, too. I&apos;m delighted that he&apos;s turned his hand to the Ode to Joy, which as well as being a great piece of music is also the European Anthem, which seems appropriate for his anti-little-England views.

The piece from the Daily Hate is a variant on that regular Mail feature &quot;I was once a leftie but now I agree with the Daily Mail&apos;s editorial line&quot;. More joy in heaven, and so on.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:03:35 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: elmono</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1892855</link>	
    <description>My favourite Billy Bragg song is  Bad Penny. Yup, that one that does it for me.

Thank you.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:00:36 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Abiezer</title>
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    <description>I&apos;ll settle for that tagging, maudlin. If we&apos;re on to favourite songs, I find Tank Park Salute takes a bit of beating.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:17:12 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Jakey</title>
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    <description>Hey, &lt;strong&gt;pxe2000,&lt;/strong&gt; I think there&apos;s a bootleg of a show from the same tour with BNL, including &apos;The Gap Between Us&apos; on Billy&apos;s site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billybragg.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=4030&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

Also, I found the Billy&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://billybragg.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=390&quot;&gt;lyrics &lt;/a&gt;to &apos;Ode to Joy&apos;, but no performance footage/mp3. Anyone?

Still, I bet it&apos;s no &apos;Saturday Boy&apos;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:02:39 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: maudlin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1893365</link>	
    <description>Eeee! Jakey, that boot is the famous Harbourlights performance, which, yes, I do have on old, stretched out tape. (It&apos;s not really on Billy&apos;s site -- the forum posting links to a torrent -- but he&apos;s pretty damn relaxed about boots, so no worries.)

Now I&apos;m trying to sing those lyrics to the tune of &quot;March of the Covert Battalions&quot;. Oh, dear.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:54:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
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    <description>Don&apos;t know how I missed this, but I love Billy Bragg, too. When I first visited London back in &apos;88, one of the first things I did was take the train out to Barking to observe the Holy &lt;s&gt;Relics&lt;/s&gt; Neighbourhood. I didn&apos;t linger. But that did not sway me from my Bragg-loving ways.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:53:24 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: lodurr</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66016/The-REAL-milkman-of-human-kindness-sorry-carsonb#1894490</link>	
    <description>He&apos;s come a long way from crashing the MTV Music Conference with an amp and some car batteries strapped to a backpack. 

Fortunately for us, he hasn&apos;t gotten lost on the trip.</description>
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