Comments on: I think the dragons be somewhere on the other side of Mordorsoft Mountains.

I think the dragons be somewhere on the other side of Mordorsoft Mountains.

goodnewsfortheinsane — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0800

The Web Is Agreement: a poster (large, huge) designed by Paul Downey.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:59:39 -0800

By: DU

DU — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:19:39 -0800

Google's All-Seeing Eye? But Google is all about openness. Well, somewhat about openness. GPhone! (I actually read that as "Gonzales's All-Seeing Eye' at first. Makes more sense.)

By: jonson

jonson — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:19:51 -0800

I kinda liked it, but really it's more like just a bunch of web related terms on a sheet of paper than anything with actual thought as to the placement or layout.

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:22:47 -0800

"Ruins of CORBA" has a nice, plausible ring to it.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:38:57 -0800

the Mordorsoft thing made me groan and then hit the back button.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:50:14 -0800

For those so inclinded: The Rastorbator.

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:59:22 -0800

On his compass, "Good/Regress" and "Evil/Progress" are presented as diametrically opposed pairs. There's something deeply wrong, albeit awfully common, with the idea that "Evil" and "Progress" are opposite one other.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:01:58 -0800

that is an excellent point, and speaks volumes about the quality of the poster, to my mind.

By: From Bklyn

From Bklyn — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:30:11 -0800

"that is an excellent point, and speaks volumes about the quality of the poster, to my mind." Oh, oh wait wait wait lemme get the popcorn, WAIT!

By: team lowkey

team lowkey — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:40:32 -0800

Wolfdog: "On his compass, "Good/Regress" and "Evil/Progress" are presented as diametrically opposed pairs." I think you might be misreading his intention. The compass just maps the layout as Good->topleft, Evil->topright, Progress->bottomleft, Regress->bottomright. Sure, he sides Progress with Good, And Regress with Evil, but I don't think he thought it through any farther than that. I don't think he intended to have Evil ideally diametrically opposed to Progress.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:48:35 -0800

Well, I think the issue that Wolfdog raises that's worth mentioning is that there is a range where progress and evil meet, and where good and regress meet, but that doesn't seem to exist in his model except in sort of a mishmash in the middle of everything. I agree with Wolfdog that the entire project would have been improved if it had been, for instance, Good in the top left, evil in the bottom right, and then progress perhaps in the top right and regress in the bottom left. That way, there could be stuff that's in between good and evil but solidly in the progress camp which would then be in the top right corner of the map. Or there could be stuff that is stuff that isn't necessarily progressive or regressive but certainly good, which would go in the top left corner. Right now it looks like the worst stuff in the world should logically be halfway down the leftmost edge of the page, where he has "Metadata Gaol." Instead, we Fear Uncertainty Doubt way top left, which would imply that those things aren't at all Regressive. It's just a design criticism, though.

By: Reggie Digest

Reggie Digest — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:50:15 -0800

Reminds me of The Picture of Everything, only less colourful and more lame.

By: From Bklyn

From Bklyn — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:57:20 -0800

... oh. by 'poster' you meant the actual image. Well crap. Popcorn, anyone?

By: ahimsakid

ahimsakid — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:03:26 -0800

I'm a guano miner in the Caves of Taxonomies. No, . . . . really!

By: doctor_negative

doctor_negative — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:07:58 -0800

If this was actually drawn to look like a Tolkein map, it would be a lot funnier (or even funny). But, sorry, it's just a bad drawing of some internet memes.

By: team lowkey

team lowkey — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:08:40 -0800

shmegegge: "It's just a design criticism, though." Exactly. I think you and Wolfdog are thinking about this a lot more thoroughly than the artist did. It looks like he only has a cursory understanding of most of the topics he put on the page. I'm doubting he thought through how everything would logically sit on a proper graph. It's just a kind of "Here's the bad land. They make the regressive stuff. Here's the good land. They make the progressive stuff", and not much more.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:08:51 -0800

God, I was wondering what you meant by that! Now I see the confusion. No, I was saying that goodnewsfortheinsane is a big jerk. Wait... I mean the opposite of that.

By: nickyskye

nickyskye — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:53:36 -0800

Totally loved that. So much better than other typical social mapping visualization. It's fun, 3-D and the artist says if you don't like it or want to better it, then go for it. A slightly mad poster put together on behalf of Osmosoft for tomorrow's internal Open Source Awareness Day which Phil has printed out in scary A0. Like all my images, I've put this under a CC, so feel free to reproduce it, mash it up, do a better job, whatever!

By: hjo3

hjo3 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:11:14 -0800

Reminds me a bit of XKCD's Online Communities map.

By: killdevil

killdevil — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:32:35 -0800

Someone needs to go for a walk in the sunshine.

By: zabuni

zabuni — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:49:59 -0800

I kinda liked it, but really it's more like just a bunch of web related terms on a sheet of paper than anything with actual thought as to the placement or layout. Exactly. It seems to be a collection of items that author finds distasteful, and ones he likes, with obtusely created imagery attached to it. Shall we draw pictures of Ballmer and Gates with grotesquely distorted faces next? It took me a second to figure out what greatly irritated me about this picture, and then it hit me, it divides issues on the Internet in solely black and white terms, literally (look at the color schemes). It is propaganda, it is poorly created propaganda, and fuck propaganda. Especially for a cause I support.

By: salvia

salvia — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:25:38 -0800

So, to summarize: Poster: The Web Is Agreement Metafilter: No it isn't.