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Cinematic Titanic is the new project from Joel Hodgson. Yes, that Joel Hodgson, along with Trace Beaulieu, J. Elvis Weinstein, Frank Conniff, and Mary Jo Pehl. Previously, Previously, Previously.
posted by cerebus19 (71 comments total) 19 users marked this as a favorite

 
Just realized this was mentioned in one of the previous threads. Sorry 'bout that.
posted by cerebus19 at 12:36 PM on November 2, 2007


S'OK! I missed it and am glad for some repeats. This aint Tivo.
posted by doctorschlock at 12:56 PM on November 2, 2007


And it's still very exciting news.
posted by Drowsy Baker at 1:06 PM on November 2, 2007


push the button, cortex

(but thanks for posting, cerebus19, as I missed it in the other thread)
posted by Busithoth at 1:14 PM on November 2, 2007


He did say to keep circulating the URL...
posted by PlusDistance at 1:14 PM on November 2, 2007


MITCHELL!
posted by porn in the woods at 1:22 PM on November 2, 2007 [1 favorite]


"He's not supposed to spark like that."
posted by julieu89 at 1:32 PM on November 2, 2007


This makes me happy in ways that I am not fully comfortable discussing in public.

where's a change of pants when you need one?
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:32 PM on November 2, 2007


"She's the Jerry Garcia of interpretive dance."
posted by mosk at 1:46 PM on November 2, 2007


Pssht. Joel vs. Mike is so 1995.
posted by ormondsacker at 1:52 PM on November 2, 2007


"She's the kind of girl you want to take home to Mother... if your mom's a cigarette-y old hooker"
posted by porn in the woods at 1:54 PM on November 2, 2007


ROWSDOWER!
posted by lone_one at 1:55 PM on November 2, 2007


Good news indeed. Thanks for the post.
posted by Outlawyr at 1:59 PM on November 2, 2007


Fantastic!
posted by absalom at 2:02 PM on November 2, 2007


MASTER NINJA THEME SONG!
posted by cog_nate at 2:05 PM on November 2, 2007 [2 favorites]


WE'VE GOT MOVIE SIGN!
posted by Dead Man at 2:09 PM on November 2, 2007


MITCHELL!

Wakka chikka wakka chikka wakka chikka.
posted by cerebus19 at 2:26 PM on November 2, 2007


Mitchell. Even his name says, "Is that a beer....?"
posted by porn in the woods at 2:28 PM on November 2, 2007


This is gonna be big. Trace Beaulieu and J. Elvis Weinstein both quit writing for "America's Funniest Home Videos" to do this... I just hope they can recover their old 'comedy chops' after years of working with Tom Bergeron. (and I especially hope they didn't give Bergeron a forwarding address)

Actually, with the Hollywood Writers Strike starting, these guys have made a very savvy move...
posted by wendell at 2:28 PM on November 2, 2007


So does this mark a definitive rift between old school MST3K (Cinematic Titanic) and new school MST3K (Rifftrax)? That's cool... to me they're both great in their own ways.
posted by hodyoaten at 2:34 PM on November 2, 2007


It stinks!
posted by thanatogenous at 2:47 PM on November 2, 2007 [1 favorite]


"She died as she lived -- failing math."
posted by PlusDistance at 3:22 PM on November 2, 2007


"Beautiful steamed weeds?"
posted by wanderingmind at 3:24 PM on November 2, 2007


"Mitchell, how do you like your scotch?"
"By the quart."
posted by brain_drain at 3:24 PM on November 2, 2007


Ahh, yes, the haunting Torgo theme
posted by Rangeboy at 3:37 PM on November 2, 2007


"Togos was closed, we had to order pizza from Torgo's instead."
posted by euphorb at 3:37 PM on November 2, 2007


"Joel, even rock climbing movies don't have this much rock climbing in them."
posted by eriko at 3:39 PM on November 2, 2007


"He's whistling the theme song to Hello, Larry!"
posted by porn in the woods at 3:40 PM on November 2, 2007


wow, I thought people would've been cleared out by now, but since it's still going, I'll warn ALL of you:

Watch out for snakes!
posted by Busithoth at 3:56 PM on November 2, 2007


♫♪ He tried to kill me with a forklift ♪♫
posted by quin at 4:04 PM on November 2, 2007 [1 favorite]


Frodo gets drunk and screws with his neighbors!
posted by gurple at 4:34 PM on November 2, 2007


Look, he's caught between a rock and a hard place!
posted by eriko at 4:41 PM on November 2, 2007


Tusk!
posted by Zonker at 4:44 PM on November 2, 2007


A bunch of them write and act in the stage show/podcast Cartoon Dump, which shows some of the worst cartoons ever made. But TV's Frank is a clinically depressed owl!
posted by Artnchicken at 4:54 PM on November 2, 2007


He jock it made of steel.
Eats sushi from a pail.
Jet Jaguar? Jet Jaguar!
He mother never really love him.
He crimefighting covers up a basic insecurity.
He dickey covers up an Adam's apple the size of a Toyota.
He basically good-hearted, but he'd like to smash that kid's head against a rock!
Knock, knock, knock!!
Who's there?
He face look like Jack Nicholson.
Don't laugh like that; it'll stay that way.
Yamahageeooooooh!
Do not touch my bags if you please, Mr. Customs Man.
posted by Snyder at 5:03 PM on November 2, 2007 [2 favorites]


I need a wheat penny and a glock!
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:11 PM on November 2, 2007


I won an essay contest!
posted by Drowsy Baker at 5:13 PM on November 2, 2007


creepy girl, won't you be mi-ha-ine, i'll bring you scrolls and fish and tinkertoys and wi-ha-ine....
posted by vrakatar at 5:37 PM on November 2, 2007


"Wow! Look at her go! I didn't realize cigarettes had so many vitamins!"
posted by Staggering Jack at 6:00 PM on November 2, 2007


"Oh take me to the sweet mushroom palace, my friend booze."
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 6:18 PM on November 2, 2007


Uhm... okay. I'm obviously the only one who is so not getting this. Why is Joel doing Cinematic Titanic and Mike's doing RiffTrax? Why aren't they working together to make something twice as good as both of those put together? Am I missing something? Is this the real reason Joel left in the first place? Is there bad blood between these guys and I been ignorant all this time?

Pehl worked with Mike not too long ago doing a riff of Glitter, and I thought she got along great with him. Now she's signed on to Cinematic Titanic. Did Mary Jo have a bad experience? Did Mike not get her the limo to and from the recording studio?

Does this mean a war is waging between Best Brains alumni and we're gonna see some kinda showdown in the coming months, or is it just that Nelson, Murphy, and Corbett smell funny in the studio, so Trace, Frank, and Elvis don't wanna be in the same room cuz of the B.O.?
posted by ZachsMind at 6:20 PM on November 2, 2007


Every frame of this movie looks like someone's last known photograph.
posted by SansPoint at 6:22 PM on November 2, 2007 [1 favorite]


Puma Man... Liberace in Dockers

♫ When you want the flavor of bacon in a dip ♫
posted by porn in the woods at 6:28 PM on November 2, 2007


Sweet.
posted by krinklyfig at 6:33 PM on November 2, 2007


Uhm... okay. I'm obviously the only one who is so not getting this. Why is Joel doing Cinematic Titanic and Mike's doing RiffTrax? Why aren't they working together to make something twice as good as both of those put together?

It could be as simple as everybody wanting some screen time, and 7-8 people at once would be too many. It also sounds like Cinematic Titanic are going for older movies that they can do the act in front of (Joel says they've actually licensed a film), while Rifftrax is doing newer stuff that has to be played separately, if I understand right.

So there could be bad blood, but it could also just be logistical issues and genuine creative/business differences.

Hike, hike, hike
Hike your pants up!
Hike, hike, hike
Hike your pants up!
Hike, hike, hike
Hike your pants up!
Hike up your britches like mine!
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 6:37 PM on November 2, 2007


Zachsmind, I don't have the impression there's anything truly Sharks/Jets going on here, it's just that a lot of people worked on MST during its decade on the air, and there are certain groups that have stayed closer in contact with each other than with others. As far as I've always been aware, Joel just felt it was time to move on and try different things. I have to think if there was any bad blood, he wouldn't have done the cameo he did during Mike's run. As far as I'm concerned twice the projects (or thrice, but I'm less optimistic about the Mallon project)=teh win for the MSTies
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:41 PM on November 2, 2007


Gamera is really neat
Gamera is full of meat
We all love you Gamera!
posted by krinklyfig at 6:42 PM on November 2, 2007


ZachsMind-

I think a big factor is that RiffTrax is based in California where Mike Nelson lives, and cinematictitanic.com's crew (I think) is still in the midwest somewhere, so it could be a geographic issue, or just a "well, Mike has his own thing going, we are going to do the more traditional route, etc."
posted by mrzarquon at 6:46 PM on November 2, 2007


Eh, think I messed up that quote ... I still love Gamera.
posted by krinklyfig at 6:48 PM on November 2, 2007


LentroHamSanin: "It could be as simple as everybody wanting some screen time, and 7-8 people at once would be too many."

THOSE seven to eight people all at once would be AWESOME ! ! ! 1 1 ! ! !

I guess the sentimental melancholy I feel is that it's wonderful all these talents are turning to comedy in public settings that I can maybe see if I get on my tippytoes over the crowd and that's a good thing don't get me wrong, but the bots are no more. There's no way to bring Gypsy & Tom & Crow back from oblivion. I know they were really Murphy and Beaulieu (and Corbett too) but still... I miss the bots. I wish they were back.

Crow: "Uh, I have a theory. The town is a bunch of false fronts and he ran over there real fast."
posted by ZachsMind at 6:50 PM on November 2, 2007


When I said above "are turning to comedy" I meant REturning.. I meant to say REturning. Although none of them ever really left, I know, cuz they were all doing other things but now they're coming back. I mean returning to THIS kind of comedy with the movies and the mischief and the talking over the movies with the mischief and the... Oh never mind, forget it.
posted by ZachsMind at 6:55 PM on November 2, 2007


THOSE seven to eight people all at once would be AWESOME ! ! ! 1 1 ! ! !

I dunno, in the Amazing Colossal Episode Guide they talk about getting into verbal traffic jams with just three people. Eight people riffing on top of a movie that you have to be able to hear at least some of would be a bitch and a half to coordinate.

I know they were really Murphy and Beaulieu (and Corbett too)

And Weinstein. He was the original voice of Tom Servo. He's the one I'm most excited about in some ways, since it's been over a decade since I've heard anything about him.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 6:58 PM on November 2, 2007


I'm relieved the jokes in this thread have petered out... I've never really understood how the Jim/Joel vs. Mike thing continues to persist even in 2007, and now I think I'm starting to understand it better.
posted by rolypolyman at 7:13 PM on November 2, 2007


I know about Weinstein but i was going for the obscure Winnie the Pooh and Tigger too reference (read it again and listen for the cadence) and mentioning "Jay Elvis" woulda completely dusted it.

To be honest the early days of Servo when Weinstein was at the helm didn't do as much for me as some. I know that's sacreligious of me to admit. I got nothing against Weinstein as a talent, and his work as a Mad was oftentimes better than TVs Frank (again that's blasphemy i know) cuz I preferred Weinstein's comic timing, chemistry with Trace, and his fiendish fake laughter. For example, the bit where he and Trace did the arm stretcher invention thingy was inspired, but Murphy's Tom Servo outshined Weinstein's. YMMV blah blah blah meh blah. =)
posted by ZachsMind at 7:17 PM on November 2, 2007


RolyPolyMan: "I'm relieved the jokes in this thread have petered out..."

Servo: And then tragedy struck — we ran out of stock footage!
posted by ZachsMind at 7:23 PM on November 2, 2007


Wait, he was interviewed by Lucasfilm? Dear God...it couldn't be..no way...they might do.. the Star Wars Christmas Special?


I dare not dream.
posted by emjaybee at 8:17 PM on November 2, 2007


The Star Wars Christmas Special?! Aww, hell no!

Crow: "What is it about the Gates of Hell that compels people to wander into 'em?"
posted by ZachsMind at 8:58 PM on November 2, 2007


Why, you stinking, lousy, francophonic, bacon-loving bastards...
posted by zap rowsdower at 4:46 AM on November 3, 2007


On the possibility of there being bad blood among the Brains:

I once discounted the possibility, but more recent interviews have made it clear that there was, indeed, something that forced Joel off MST3K. Apparently it was a disagreement between Jim Mallon and Joel Hodgson about the direction the show should take (the word "Umbilicus" came up), and Joel left rather than let it tear the show apart.

Notice that neither RiffTrax nor Cinematic Titanic involve Mallon, and neither project uses the Satellite of Love, the 'Bots, the Mad Scientists, or anything of the brilliant premise Joel created for the show, even though you'd think it'd be a no-brainer to include them, because those are all owned by Mallon and he seems to be sitting on them.

But the question remains, are Mike or Joel are purposely excluding the others from their riffing projects? Well remember that Frank and Joel had cameo appearances in the last season of Mystery Science Theater 3000 (after Mallon had retired as Gypsy), and Mary Jo Pehl was in a RiffTrax. I think it boils down to each of them having their own "thing." RiffTrax focuses on the mocking and commentary almost exclusively with no "characters" other than Disembaudio (who, admittedly, is great those few times he ventures off-line, check the end of Eragon for proof), and Joel will probably create something with a whimsical premise and narrative. Mike and company also have Film Crew, mind, so this different doesn't hold up too well.

Word in the interviews (you can read 'em for yourself from Satellite News) is that everyone involved continues to stay in touch with everyone else. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt on this.
posted by JHarris at 10:28 AM on November 3, 2007


Looks like I posted too soon, guys, take a look at Satellite News. Be sure to scroll down a bit, it looks like there's something going on with the original property....
posted by JHarris at 10:31 AM on November 3, 2007


holy crap, the bots are back? that is great news.
posted by Busithoth at 3:16 PM on November 3, 2007


Looks so. Although without either the first or second generation of MST guys behind it, basically just Jim Mallon and Patrick Bransig so far, I have to wonder how MSTish it'll be. At the very least, it looks like there's going to be no human there, and it might even have nothing to do with riffing.

It also sucks that they're going to start calling the cable program the "legacy show."
posted by JHarris at 4:46 PM on November 3, 2007


I'm a Q-Tip what are you?
posted by e.e. coli at 4:58 PM on November 3, 2007


Ah, I see. -sigh- I would like to retract my 'great news' exclamation. Clearly I got lost in all giddy expectations of the FPP.

the bots alone, like this, sounds more to me like silent running than anything 'funny'
posted by Busithoth at 5:05 PM on November 3, 2007


Is is too late to say

"Two Words, Hercules! French Doors! "
posted by wittgenstein at 7:44 PM on November 3, 2007


Well I don't want to set up expectations of failure either Busithoth. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I was going to FPP their announcement, but there really have been a lot of MST-related announcements lately. I'll have a look when it goes live.
posted by JHarris at 3:11 AM on November 4, 2007


"It's Cocoa Puffs, Bob! I have no idea why but it fits the equation! Check it out!"

One of Joel's most random and whimsical lines ever.
posted by Spatch at 6:51 AM on November 4, 2007


Crow: Note to Self: don't throw rocks at magma.
Ro-Man: Humans! Listen to me! Due to an error in calculation, there are still a few of you left.
Joel: We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused you.
Servo: If you take these bikers internally, do not induce vomiting.
Crow: I am Orkon. This is my brother Xenon and my other brother Xenon.
Joel: These are the extras...they'll probably get killed.
Servo: Godzilla is either breaking the laws of physics, or he's throwing around an empty rubber suit!
Crow: Please put your brain under the seat in front of you.
Joel: I don't believe it! They were too cheap to hire villains for this movie!
Servo: You know, this isn't Lysistrata. I like it, but it isn't Lysistrata!
Crow: Well, that's very interesting, but does it belong in the script?
Joel: Lighten up, they’re just puppets!
Crow: Hey...
Joel: Sorry.
Servo: Ladies and gentlemen, please accept our sincere apology for all of this. Please.
Joel, Crow, Servo: Gamera! Gamera! amera is really neat! Gamera is filled with meat! We've been eating Gamera!
Crow: I'm sorry, I can't think of the ending!
Servo: I can't think of anything else!
posted by ZachsMind at 10:27 AM on November 4, 2007


Let's watch the kids go to their fates
They'll disappear into the woods
It will be days before they're found
Corn Job will be blamed
posted by gramschmidt at 4:43 PM on November 4, 2007


What, no Tibby?
posted by SentientAI at 2:03 PM on November 6, 2007


McCLOUD!
posted by ZachsMind at 5:10 PM on November 9, 2007


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