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	<title>Comments on: Recaptcha</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:25:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Recaptcha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha</link>	
		<description>Every day tens of millions of &quot;captchas&quot; are solved by humans, using undreds of thousands of man-hours of work. But what if those person hours could be used for something beneficial? &lt;a href=&quot;http://recaptcha.net/&quot;&gt;They can be&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(you may have noticed recaptcha being used on &lt;a href=&quot;http://metatalk.metafilter.com/15229/Whats-up-with-the-type-these-words-login#470869&quot;&gt;some notable sites&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>		<category>captcha</category>		<category>ocr</category>		<category>gutenberg</category>
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		<title>By: weapons-grade pandemonium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905315</link>	
		<description>Took me a while, but I solved &lt;em&gt;undreds.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:25:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>weapons-grade pandemonium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stavrogin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905319</link>	
		<description>This is a good idea, but I can remove or change letters from both words, including the known good word, and still get a &quot;Correct!&quot;.  They do resubmit it to different users, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:28:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stavrogin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gwint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905327</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21566341/wid/11915829?GT1=10639&quot;&gt;In other captcha news...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:35:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gwint</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905338</link>	
		<description>qwint: that&apos;s old news, security experts speculated about that sort of attack almost as soon as captcha&apos;s appeared on the web.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:46:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>delmoi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905340</link>	
		<description>this is pretty cool...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:50:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schyler523</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: PercussivePaul</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905352</link>	
		<description>I had always tacitly assumed that whoever came up with captchas had patented the concept, spun it off into a private company and was rightfully rich from licensing fees after such a million dollar idea.   I am rather surprised that it&apos;s all freely available.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:57:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PercussivePaul</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Reggie Digest</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905359</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Annoying!&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:00:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Digest</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Reggie Digest</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905361</link>	
		<description>BTW, did Blogger ever fix theirs?  I don&apos;t know how many times I&apos;ve written huge long comments before realizing I couldn&apos;t post them since the Word Verification thingy was busted.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:05:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Digest</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: humannaire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905369</link>	
		<description>Wow! I just learned the term captcha today, and voila! Instant more captcha!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:15:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>humannaire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: blue_beetle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905414</link>	
		<description>captcha fatigue</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:04:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>blue_beetle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Abiezer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905450</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a captchaesque nightmare! And a very good idea.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:55:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Abiezer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Free word order!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905529</link>	
		<description>We can leave the security part out and rethink captchas as small favors and generally beneficial tasks that only humans can do. &apos;Post comment&apos; -&amp;gt; &apos;Please brush your teeth first. Click ok when done.&apos; Automated goodness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Free word order!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeffburdges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905531</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a very good idea, using words that are know to be hard by the best OCR around, not even sure why they further distort the image.  But it seems fairly anglo-centric.  They should start helping digitize books in other langauges and target it by langauge as determined by either the website or IP address.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:28:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: triv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905625</link>	
		<description>Great idea, cheers for sharing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:07:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>triv</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: BrianBoyko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905701</link>	
		<description>I wish I knew how to integrate this into my oft-spammed blog.  But I&apos;m on Movable type with no inclination to potentially mess up my google rank by switching to WordPress.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 07:30:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrianBoyko</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: exogenous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905706</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;not even sure why they further distort the image&lt;/i&gt;
Seems to be so folks can &lt;a href=&quot;http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html&quot;&gt;replace their normal captchas &lt;/a&gt;with theirs.  The distortion adds security.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 07:32:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>exogenous</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: goodnewsfortheinsane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905763</link>	
		<description>As an illustration as to why IP-based language selection wouldn&apos;t work in my opinion:

I&apos;m Dutch and based in the Netherlands; I just logged in using the new CAPTCHA &lt;small&gt;(I&apos;m at work, so temporary cookies)&lt;/small&gt;, and one of the words I could swear was &quot;roer&quot;, which is a word in Dutch but AFAIK not in English. Now, I know I *saw* that word and it could hardly be mistaken for any English word, so I had quite a hefty bout of cognitive dissonance trying to reconcile these two notions. (Perhaps I did misread after all, or perhaps it was an archaic or non-English word, but that is beside the point.)

Additionally, there will of course be people in a given language area&apos;s IP range who don&apos;t actually speak that language.

So it could work, sure, but it would have to be based on the website&apos;s language, moreover (and this is more important than some people tend to think) the interface and instruction &lt;em&gt;absolutely need&lt;/em&gt; to be in the target language. Framing is important.

Carry on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:03:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>goodnewsfortheinsane</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: solotoro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905768</link>	
		<description>When I saw the MeTa post about the new login, I thought, &quot;Oh, Matt saw that from the same MeFi post I heard about this from.&quot; But there wasn&apos;t one.

I could have FINALLY made a good post! I read about this a month ago!

&lt;small&gt;dammit dammit dammit&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:07:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>solotoro</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MtDewd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1905980</link>	
		<description>I could have gone a couple of months without knowing this, since I rarely have to log in. So I tried it and then I wondered how (if they were using me to translate) they knew I typed the right thing. 
Jeez, I had to RTFA, damn you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:10:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MtDewd</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gurple</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1906051</link>	
		<description>What?  

&lt;em&gt;What if we could make positive use of this human effort?&lt;/em&gt;

Can someone explain to me how this makes positive use of human effort that&apos;s already being expended?  Because what this &lt;em&gt;appears&lt;/em&gt; to do is to roughly double the amount of human effort and make use of half of it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:00:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gurple</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: blacklite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1906090</link>	
		<description>The amount of wrongness you can have in your answers makes me kind of dubious about how good this is as a captcha.

Also, I feel like a complete tool when I say &quot;captcha&quot;. It&apos;s like capture, but with extra dumb. Why can&apos;t things have reasonable names?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:24:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>blacklite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: eritain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1906225</link>	
		<description>Now Playing: Frank Captcha&apos;s &lt;i&gt;It&apos;s a Wonderful Life.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:31:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>eritain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: weapons-grade pandemonium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66354/Recaptcha#1906367</link>	
		<description>John F. Kennedy captcha&apos;d the Democratic nomination in 1960.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:46:23 -0800</pubDate>
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