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	<title>Comments on: Petrouchka</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:51:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Petrouchka</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/743"&gt;My favorite piece of music is Stravinsky&apos;s &quot;Petrouchka.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (Scroll down to the  2002-2003 Season for mp3s.) Today, I was blown away by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.ca/Duosuos-Classical-Accor-Igor-Stravinsky/dp/B000002SFD&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; recording (CD for purchase, alas) of parts of the piece &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUtctqwyy2s&quot;&gt;played on accordion&lt;/a&gt;. (If you&apos;re a Stravinsky fan, please do yourself a favor and acquire this CD!). I&apos;ve always associated accordions with &lt;a href=&quot;http://kmdownload.com/royalty-free/polka2b.mp3&quot;&gt;polkas&lt;/a&gt; (and &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6204866695764439570&amp;q=classical+accordion&amp;total=293&amp;start=70&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=4&quot;&gt;Ennio Morricone&lt;/a&gt; music ... and, of course, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4218158548387908138&amp;q=classical+accordion&amp;total=293&amp;start=110&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=9&quot;&gt;Doctor Who theme)&lt;/a&gt;. I never &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5889798392664352862&amp;q=classical+accordion&amp;total=293&amp;start=10&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=8&quot;&gt;knew&lt;/a&gt; they were rich enough to &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4424185256647960421&amp;q=classical+accordion&amp;total=293&amp;start=70&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=8&quot;&gt;stand&lt;/a&gt; in for a whole &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4633956421043727316&amp;q=classical+accordion&amp;total=293&amp;start=0&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=2&quot;&gt;orchestra&lt;/a&gt;!  And I didn&apos;t know much about accordions used in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/history/classic.html&quot;&gt;classical music&lt;/a&gt;. Anyway, back to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrushka_(ballet)&quot;&gt;Petrouchka&lt;/a&gt;: here are videos of the ballet: &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=vKwe1Eka9Ek&quot;&gt;bit&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=oKHN0VmWEfA&quot;&gt;I&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=q-scUP95xXo&quot;&gt;II&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=prDN3unFg6I&quot;&gt;III&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXOGjn27MD4&quot;&gt;IV&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:41:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grumblebee</dc:creator>		<category>stravinsky</category>		<category>petroushka</category>		<category>petrouchka</category>		<category>accordion</category>		<category>classical</category>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906826</link>	
		<description>Well, as long as we&apos;re just sharing our favorite things this morning, perhaps my favorite living composer is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fimic.fi/fimic/fimic.nsf/mainframe?readform&amp;7118B64EF463A14FC22566A5003B5FB7&quot;&gt;Kalevi&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fimic.fi/fimic/fimic.nsf/mainframe?readform&amp;F13A3523699E0E2EC2256D870039EEE9&quot;&gt;Aho&lt;/a&gt;.  (See the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naxos.com/composerinfo/bio25893.htm&quot;&gt;Naxos&lt;/a&gt; page, too.  They distribute BIS, which has a near monopoly on Aho recordings.)  I haven&apos;t heard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000508J1/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;this disc&lt;/a&gt; of his accordion music, but it&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/reviews/blackbirds.html&quot;&gt;reviewed&lt;/a&gt; on one of the sites you linked to.</description>
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		<title>By: tepidmonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906851</link>	
		<description>Those accordion performances are mouth-gapingly amazing. I can&apos;t imagine how much talent it takes to play like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:28:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MNDZ</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906873</link>	
		<description>I saw an awesome acordion player working the line outside the David in florence.  he played every request perfectly, from ride of the valkyries to back in black.  i will never talk bad about an accordion again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:01:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leibniz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906877</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s certainly impressive. Though I am impressed because I know what the orchestral version sounds like and that is colouring my listening experience. I wonder if I had never heard the piece before, how much I would like it. I don&apos;t see any advantages of playing it on the accordian (it&apos;s not more sensitive or anything) so this is really more of a novelty than profound musical expression.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:06:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grumblebee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906886</link>	
		<description>To me, there are two advantages. The first is that the accordion pushes the piece to have a more &quot;carnival&quot; sound, which fits well with what&apos;s already going on. The second ... well ... I can&apos;t explain it because it&apos;s totally subjective: it just sounds right to me. I&apos;ve heard it played by full orchestra, piano and now accordion. I like all three interpretations. They&apos;re like different singers singing the same song. I probably wouldn&apos;t like it played on the tuba or kazoo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:20:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grumblebee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906888</link>	
		<description>To me, the &quot;Doctor Who&quot; theme is a stunt. Worth hearing once (if that). I&apos;ll listen to the Petrouchka repeatedly. (Before shrugging it off as a stunt, I urge you to listen to the CD version.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:21:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906902</link>	
		<description>At the very least, for the arranger, a good transcription cannot be done without a very thorough understanding of the structure of the work and intelligent interpretation of the composer&apos;s intentions.  In this case, the process was probably greatly abetted by the fact that Stravinsky himself was a fairly diligent transcriber and he prepared piano or piano four hands versions for most of his ballets (including Petrushka Petrouchka &#1087;&#1077;&#1090;&#1088;&#1091;&#1096;&#1082;&#1072;  whatever).

It&apos;s always questionable whether the aesthetic result at the end justifies the amount of effort expended (in this case, the result, as much as I can hear in the youtube clip, doesn&apos;t really excite me) but I&apos;d hesitate to call this merely a stunt, or a purely technical exercise.  Particularly with someone like Stravinsky, for whom orchestration is entirely integral to the conception of the piece, you can learn a lot about the work even as a listener by understanding what&apos;s gained and lost in this translation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:33:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: unmake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906938</link>	
		<description>I kicked off my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wfmu.org/~kennyg/popular/articles/satie.html&quot;&gt;Satie &lt;/a&gt; obsession with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000B9N2/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Teodoro Anzellotti&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; accordian performances. To my ears, it&apos;s a direct predecessor to post-rock..</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:16:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Autarky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1906951</link>	
		<description>I saw flight of the bumblebee on the accordion and it was magical.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:32:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boo_radley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1907037</link>	
		<description>You forgot about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpwNJGr8EM4&quot;&gt;black metal accordion.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:10:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1907052</link>	
		<description>Turisas is &quot;black metal&quot; to about the same extent Stravinsky is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:30:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Opera Chic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1907179</link>	
		<description>Nothing compares to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001ZMBV0/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Giulini&apos;s&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:17:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1907511</link>	
		<description>Thanks for this. As an aside, this thread is currently the fifth google result for &quot;Petrouchka.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:52:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hortense</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66397/Petrouchka#1907520</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4106598&quot;&gt;Lenny B&apos;s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; 1969</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:20:01 -0800</pubDate>
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