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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 6641</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:05:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 6641</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.01films.com/films/MonkeyVsRobot300k.asx"&gt;Monkey Versus Robot&lt;/a&gt; will set you free! How can you deny the power of the internet when it brings you riches such as this?

M-O-N-K-E-Y 
R-O-B-O-T</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cornbread</dc:creator>		<category>brokenlink</category>		<category>monkeys</category>		<category>robots</category>
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		<title>By: Dane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62955</link>	
		<description>Ick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:05:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Outlawyr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62957</link>	
		<description>Please, please, please, put some warning in brackets when you link to media like this, since it always crashes my system and is slow loading for modem-heads.

Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:10:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stretch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62968</link>	
		<description>Sweet sassy molassy!  It looked like monkey was kicking ass until robot threw him off the building.  I would watch a show like that.  Two buddies: monkey and robot torn apart by something and then become sworn enemies fighting each other around the world.  That would kick ass!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:39:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stretch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62971</link>	
		<description>Is there a mirror? The server&apos;s a little &quot;overwhelmed&quot;, apparently.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mocata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62974</link>	
		<description>Pictures good, soudtrack shite.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:59:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mocata</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62980</link>	
		<description>Monkey rules, Robot drools....</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:24:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dakotasmith</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62982</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://mp3.com/jks&quot;&gt;James Kochalka Superstar&lt;/a&gt;

It&apos;s hard to deny he&apos;s an idol of mine. Some of his songs are so painfully clever, some are just painful, but they all rock the house.

Unfortunately, from what I&apos;ve been told, he mainly tours Belgium or something silly like that and spends his time living in Vermont drawing comics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:28:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dakotasmith</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62988</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a bar here in DC that plays off-the-wall, arty, independent, or otherwise psychotronic films every Tuesday. MvR plays every week. Nothing like a bar full of half-drunken film geeks yelling out M-O-N-K-E-Y! R-O-B-O-T!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:39:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MrMoonPie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yangwar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62989</link>	
		<description>Monkey vs. Robot Rules</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:39:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yangwar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62993</link>	
		<description>I heard James&apos; videos were good, but hadn&apos;t seen them yet. Perfect accompaniment to a great song.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:45:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anapestic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#62994</link>	
		<description>Which bar, MrMoonPie?  The public has a right to know.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:46:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anapestic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63000</link>	
		<description>For the broadband-deprived, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.01films.com/01dbpages/player/player_url.asp?id=228&amp;enc=56&amp;type=asx&quot;&gt;the 56K version&lt;/a&gt;. (If you just got audio, btw, that&apos;s what the fat version falls back to.)

Cornbread, not everybody can swallow 300K feeds, OK? Have a little courtesy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:58:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cheesebot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63015</link>	
		<description>i don&apos;t know, that monkey doesn&apos;t look very real to me.  i think it&apos;s faked. in any case, go ROBOT!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:18:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cheesebot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hijinx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63017</link>	
		<description>What Dane said.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:20:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63018</link>	
		<description>Check out the web page of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wpfs.org/main/main.html&quot;&gt;Washington Psychotronic Film Society&lt;/a&gt;. Email me if you&apos;d to meet up there--I go most Tuesdays.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:21:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63025</link>	
		<description>I like it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:33:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Postroad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63027</link>	
		<description>But which one is the Democrat?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:36:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Postroad</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: a3matrix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63068</link>	
		<description>HAHAHAHAHAHA Postroad.  Good one.  You comment was the one that finally made me laugh out loud.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:44:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>a3matrix</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63073</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;But which one is the Democrat?&lt;/i&gt;

Clearly, postroad, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bushorchimp.com/pics.html&quot;&gt;answer&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/nov00.shtml#Turing-Test&quot;&gt;apparent&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:59:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63079</link>	
		<description>I watched this in a room full of semioticians who immediately began debating over whether this was an extremely clever commentary on the conflict between neo-Luddites and techno-utopists, or merely a bunch of guys screwing around with a video camera.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:17:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63085</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot; . . . a room full of semioticians . . . &quot;?&lt;/i&gt;

Jesus, Matthew . . . &lt;b&gt;run.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:23:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Skot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bison</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63096</link>	
		<description>For those in the know: Which came first &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1891830155/o/qid=985891189/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/107-5786510-2999714&quot;&gt;the book&lt;/a&gt; or the video?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:43:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bison</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63100</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think it&apos;s quite as complex as that, matthew. I saw it as a plain old &quot;man vs. machine&quot; fable, not an intellectual interdisciplinary struggle.

Plus, MONKEYS IS SOOOOO SILLY!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:48:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: daveadams</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63106</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Please, please, please, put some warning in brackets when you link to media like this&lt;/i&gt;

While I second the suggestion to warn when linking to odd media (i.e. other than html, txt, gif, jpg), but really, this is why you should always look at the status bar to see where you&apos;re being sent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:58:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fooljay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63108</link>	
		<description>I like the Lettermanesque change-of-pace love scene where their riding on the kiddie rides.  That cracked me up even though it&apos;s an old gimmick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:59:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amoeba</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63111</link>	
		<description>Utterly Delightful.  I was torn, though.  Do I root for the monkey?  The robot?  The monkey and the robot?  Do I root for the meta-commentary?  Just the commentary?  Just the meta?

If I could hang out with Matthew&apos;s people, I&apos;d vote on the side of a bunch of guys screwing around with a video camera, who know in the back of their minds that it could be a clever commentary on neo-luddites vs. techno-utopists, but don&apos;t really give a damn and thought it would be pretty damn funny to just shoot the monkey and the robot kicking each other&apos;s ass.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:02:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>amoeba</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anapestic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63130</link>	
		<description>Oh come on, guys.  Neo-Luddites?  Techno-utopists?

It&apos;s just guys having fun with a camera.  If it&apos;s derivative of anything, it&apos;s old Japanese movies.  King Kong.  Ultraman.  If you set out to make a commentary on man vs. machine, you wouldn&apos;t use a monkey.  And it wouldn&apos;t be anywhere near as much fun.

Of course, it&apos;s amusing to project meaning.  But you can&apos;t assume that the meaning you see was intended by the creators. 

As to whether you root for the monkey or the robot, that&apos;s the kind of thing that&apos;s supposed to keep you up nights, waking up in a cold sweat from a really bizarre dream.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:42:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anapestic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dakotasmith</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63137</link>	
		<description>Actually, the comic came first. Well, the comic and the song were at about the same time. Then the video.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:05:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dakotasmith</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mrBMsandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63228</link>	
		<description>Crowe and Roberts move over...my Oscar vote goes to MONKEY hands down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:23:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mrBMsandwich</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63301</link>	
		<description>I used to contract James Kochalka for original artwork at the magazine I used to work at.  (Gettingit.com, R.U. Sirius&apos; short-lived online zine.)  Very, very nice guy.  He did a naughty comic strip for us and illustrated several of our feature stories.

It&apos;s too bad the site was so god-awfully ugly and impossible to navigate (not my fault), or I&apos;d link to some of the articles.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63366</link>	
		<description>Just incase ya&apos;ll didn&apos;t know, you can download the video file &lt;a href=&quot;http://208.34.189.52/MonkeyVsRobot300k.asf&quot; title=&quot;Monkey versus Robot [5.11meg]&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:27:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>holloway</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63372</link>	
		<description>ps, money versus robot is lovely!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:32:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>holloway</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cheesebot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63552</link>	
		<description>the more i watch it the better it gets.  i keep seeing more and more in this video - it&apos;s absolutely brilliant.  i can&apos;t stop, go ROBOT.  it looks like ROBOT wins in the long run, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:08:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cheesebot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CrazyUncleJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63586</link>	
		<description>Maybe, but he cheated by letting that little kid help him.  Monkey was ROBBED!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:38:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrazyUncleJoe</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fooljay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6641/#63747</link>	
		<description>Oh my GOD.  I just got to watch it &lt;b&gt;with&lt;/b&gt; sound.  It has now entered the realm of &quot;soooo much funnier&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:17:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fooljay</dc:creator>
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