Comments on: Orangutan Raped For Seven Years

Orangutan Raped For Seven Years

jonson — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:49:23 -0800

Did the clients [at the brothel] realize that they were in fact getting an orangutan? “Oh yeah, they would come in especially for it. You could choose a human if you preferred, but it was a novelty for many of the men to have sex with an orangutan.” Via.

By: trondant

trondant — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:51:31 -0800

Bend over, Clyde.

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:52:08 -0800

I hope this is BS.

By: kbanas

kbanas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:53:04 -0800

Oh what the fuck. Now you can't even screw an orangutan without everyone getting all up in arms? This is such bullshit.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:54:39 -0800

A novelty is buying a tie shaped like a fish, fucking one of the great apes is a whole other class of thing entirely.

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:56:35 -0800

I understand that a fully grown orangutan is quite strong enough to rip your arms out of their sockets, and it saddens me that Pony wasn't wise to that.

By: InfidelZombie

InfidelZombie — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:56:37 -0800

Every Which Way But Doggy-Style

By: rokusan

rokusan — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:57:02 -0800

it was a novelty for many of the men to have sex with an orangutan. You know, the scariest thing in that article is the single word "many" in that sentence.

By: kuatto

kuatto — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:00:21 -0800

Where is Rambo when you need him? I mean seriously?!? Is raping the earth not strong enough a metaphor for ya?

By: rtha

rtha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:04:37 -0800

I hate people.

By: cjorgensen

cjorgensen — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:05:23 -0800

I'd hit that. Oh, wait that would be wrong.

By: maryh

maryh — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:08:24 -0800

It's not enough that they were banging an ape, it had to be a completely shaved ape? Wha...?

By: salvia

salvia — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:13:03 -0800

How else are the orangutans going to pay for the land to live on?

By: tommasz

tommasz — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:14:32 -0800

Countdown to NAMOLA in 5..4..3..

By: bassjump

bassjump — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:39 -0800

Is anyone else utterly disturbed that her name is Pony?

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:17:53 -0800

No it's funny, because I've actually got a pony named MONKEY WHORE.

By: futility closet

futility closet — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:21:08 -0800

Cecil Adams on chimp strength.

By: Pecinpah

Pecinpah — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:21:40 -0800

So that's what that tsunami was all about. Way to go, God.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:22:50 -0800

Tihs are not the pony I wants.

By: rob511

rob511 — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:23:42 -0800

Poor thing — after seven years, I'd bet she's every which way including loose.

By: Floydd

Floydd — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:28:08 -0800

The Naked Ape.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:28:11 -0800

Wow, there aren't a lot of times when I can say "I'd be happier not knowing about this, ignorance is bliss, etc," but this is one of them.

By: piratebowling

piratebowling — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:28:22 -0800

Honesty, I can read Vice every once in a while for the DOs and DON'Ts, but the rest of stories just depress the shit out of me.

By: mistersquid

mistersquid — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:29:57 -0800

Let you whose groin hair is without red orang-utan hair cast the first stone.

By: quin

quin — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:31:00 -0800

At what point do you take a hard look at your life and realize that you have made some serious wrong turns? My first thought was: you are a madam for a prostituted orangutan. You should probably reassess your decisions and consider a lifestyle change. Perhaps suicide. Then I thought about the clients, people who walk into a brothel and think "Mmmm, monkey. Gotta get me some of that" I don't know what choices you might have made in your life that brought you to that point, but I seriously submit to you, that if you have reached a crossroads where paying to have sex with a shaved primate is something that sounds appealing, you are the problem. You should walk into the wild and never return. I know an orangutan isn't a monkey, I liked the alliteration.

By: salvia

salvia — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:31:06 -0800

Yeah, (obviously I'm opposed to all this, but) the more I think about this -- as long as they're getting screwed anyway, animals really should be getting paid! From now on, all those cuddly otters will only appear in peep booths or pay-per-view TV shows. Zoos will have to pay per-diem rates, and the animals can send the money back to their families in the jungle. This is the wave of the future. "Hello, Nature Channel? Jerry Jaguar says he needs top billing and $2 million or he's not showing up. I don't want your film crew to have come all the way to the savanah for nothing..." How else are animals going to afford to lobby Washington about fishing policy, to sue polluters, to hire security guards against poachers, to buy homes? Who else wants to join my Animal Talent Agency?

By: cog_nate

cog_nate — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:33:25 -0800

Floydd, I think The Human Zoo is more appropriate in this particular instance.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:37:44 -0800

slightly off-topic, but hey. maybe NSFW. animal sex.

By: sacre_bleu

sacre_bleu — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:37:52 -0800

Survey says: BZZZZZZT. Hang this next to "monkeyfishing" in the Hoax Hall of Shame.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:37:52 -0800

That's disgusting. I limit myself to driving by the zoo and flashing the orangutans from my car. They seem to know it's a compliment.

By: Samizdata

Samizdata — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:39:00 -0800

Let you whose groin hair is without red orang-utan hair cast the first stone. (chucks a couple rocks and turns back to female chimp) Seriously though, this sucks. Really, really, all kinds of sucks on ice. Hearing the conditions just made me shudder.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:40:07 -0800

I'm just waiting for Rush Limbaugh to come back from Borneo with a suitcase full of bananas, Oxys and KY.

By: Brak

Brak — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:42:11 -0800

I hope this is BS. Well, you can't have bestiality without it.

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:42:47 -0800

Well, actually, I have a banana in my pocket because I’m glad to see you.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:43:11 -0800

The madam refused to give up the animal because everyone loved Pony and she was a big part of their income. They also thought Pony was lucky, as she would pick winning lottery numbers. Right, so they chose to prostitute her, instead of have her pick the winning numbers, then reinvest all the winnings in the next lottery, and reinvest those until they eventually owned the entire world. What a stupid business plan they had.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:43:52 -0800

Sometimes it just feels like I'm living the comic book Preacher.

By: Autarky

Autarky — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:43:52 -0800

Come on ya libs out there, I thought liberals were all about tolerance and acceptance. You guys should be excited that people are experimenting with their sexuality. Your apparent distaste for this greatly distresses me.

By: Atom Eyes

Atom Eyes — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:43:56 -0800

Wang, dang, what a sweet orangutan A-shakin' my thang as a rang-a-dang-dang in the bell

By: Free word order!

Free word order! — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:46:51 -0800

This is a modern picture of Dorian Gray, a strong counterargument for 'you have to live, experience things, no regrets' -lifestyle. I cannot imagine anyone doing that for other reason than because you can -- because then you know you have done that too. Why it is worthwhile to have that experience too? It is worthy only if having lots and lots of experiences is value by itself. If you live for novel experiences, if you live long enough, you end up fucking an orangutang.

By: EatTheWeak

EatTheWeak — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:55:48 -0800

Well, ick.

By: spiderskull

spiderskull — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:59:08 -0800

So that's what that tsunami was all about. This is the same baseless argument that Falwell was making that 9/11 happened as a punishment for gays in this country. Consider the impact the tsunami had before posting such a nonsensical claim.

By: Pope Guilty

Pope Guilty — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:00:17 -0800

Humour... generator... failing... Must... reject... knowledge...

By: Pope Guilty

Pope Guilty — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:03:47 -0800

This is the same baseless argument that Falwell was making that 9/11 happened as a punishment for gays in this country. Consider the impact the tsunami had before posting such a nonsensical claim. Yes, Metafilter is a place for good family fun and kind-hearting ribbing.

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:03:52 -0800

“Say, I had an ostrich burger the other day” “Oh yeah? Well, I fucked an orangutan.” You know, I respect true pacifists. I respect the fact they deeply value the sanctity of life and choose to embody those values and doing no harm. But sometimes it does take a whole platoon of men armed with assault rifles to straighten some people the fuck out. Seven years, JFC. “If you live for novel experiences, if you live long enough, you end up fucking an orangutang.” Or opening a very malevolent chinese puzzle box.

By: stinkycheese

stinkycheese — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:07:47 -0800

It feels good to know that, no matter how screwed up I think I am sometimes, I'd never even considered this before.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:15:58 -0800

Unfortunately, this seems to not be BS. Here's a QuantumShift video about Dayak (aboriginal) women being recruited to help as surrogate mothers for orphaned baby orangs. In the course of the video, the narrator mentions female orangs being used in brothels for prostitution, which generated some incredulous comments. Scroll down in the comments to Aug. 16 to see where user Bos-uk posted a comment as follows: The orangutan rescued by the Borneo Orangutan Survival (BOS) Foundation that was used in a brothel is names Pony. She was chained to a wall and offered to men for the equivalent of a few dollars. Now a few years since her rescue, she has become a healthy and happy orangutan living on one of the Nyaru Menteng Project's islands. Here she enjoys an almost wild existence with free range of the large island, and one day she will be released to the wild. BOS could not have rescued Pony and provided her a decent future if it weren't for the generosity of supporters around the world. Please visit the BOS site in your country or the BOS International site, find out more, and lend your support. Orangutans depend upon BOS for their continued survival in the wild. Michelle Desilets Director Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation UK Michelle Desilets is identified elsewhere as the Director of this foundation, in addition to the linked article.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:20:18 -0800

Everyone knows you can't have rape without ape.

By: algreer

algreer — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:23:14 -0800

Human depravity knows no bounds. As an aside - orangutan behaviour/society is pretty rough. We were taught at uni that 80% of orangutan copulations in the wild are forced by the male. [Just tried unsuccessfully to find a reference to this on the web, and my lecture notes are buried in a box in the loft]

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:26:05 -0800

By: edgeways

edgeways — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:28:20 -0800

I think I've just discovered a legitimate use for waterboarding

By: edgeways

edgeways — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:29:26 -0800

algreer, having just taken Evolutionary anthropology that sounds about right.

By: everichon

everichon — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:30:39 -0800

Thanks, yhbc.

By: schleppo

schleppo — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:31:02 -0800

Found the news footage of Pony's rescue. It starts at about 12:50 in: Youtube

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:35:54 -0800

Michelle Desilets is identified elsewhere as the Director of this foundation, in addition to the linked article. Fuck heroes, make a tv show about HER life.

By: salvia

salvia — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:37:55 -0800

Apes and humans have common ancestors but should they have the same rights? An international movement to give them "personhood" is gathering pace.

By: nomisxid

nomisxid — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:40:10 -0800

yeah, well I've got a vampire altar boy in a cage.

By: mr_book

mr_book — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:47:55 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? i suppose it is novel.

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:50:14 -0800

It's not enough that they were banging an ape, it had to be a completely shaved ape? So that picture on the right of the page of the thing in the glasses and brown jacket? Is that the Orang Utan after he's been shaved? Oh no, it was a female ape, amirite? In that case, personally, I think this brothel had the wrong plan. They should be hiring male Orang Utan's. The business that they'd do from wanabee female primatologists would be immense.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:51:44 -0800

It's here that we learn about the leech pond. Leeches gorged with blood apparently are a Chinese delicacy. So a pond is filled with the creatures and three prostitutes are forced into it until the leeches are gorged. Then the women are removed and the insects farmed. Domestic animals are too valuable to use in the pond. Thought you had outrage fatigue? Here's the cure.

By: Biblio

Biblio — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:53:56 -0800

OOK? The Librarian is NOT amused.

By: LordSludge

LordSludge — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:58:14 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? i suppose it is novel. Hurts more to think about forced prostitution of humans.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:06:43 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? This recent comment by Arturus is an appropriate response here as well.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:07:52 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? people don't get uppity about the forced prostitution of human beings? huh. i totally thought they did.

By: breezeway

breezeway — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:08:50 -0800

At least I let my bonobo pals fuck me sometimes.

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:16:45 -0800

Always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Without a weapon.

By: desolepas

desolepas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:21:56 -0800

whatever little faith i had left in mankind is now totally erased. ewwww. just ewww.

By: brownpau

brownpau — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:28:01 -0800

"There is no law enforcement in Indonesia so these people didn’t face any sentence or anything for what they had done." lol wut

By: felix betachat

felix betachat — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:35:25 -0800

All of a sudden this takes on a whole new meaning.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:38:01 -0800

Okay, that's it, humanity has to go. Come on bird flu pandemic.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:43:19 -0800

Shaving the orangutan isn't really fooling anyone.

By: tehloki

tehloki — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:58:34 -0800

You see this? This is how people get superAIDS.

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:49 -0800

Dr. Zaius was right. And obviously afraid Charlton Heston was gonna try to fuck him.

By: Rosie M. Banks

Rosie M. Banks — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:22:53 -0800

Somewhere out there, an orangutan is hanging its head in shame at the behavior of its supposedly "evolved" cousins. Gorillas and chimps are probably pretty ashamed of us by now, too.

By: hellphish

hellphish — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:24:29 -0800

Or just regular AIDS

By: felix betachat

felix betachat — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:30:57 -0800

Gorillas and chimps are probably pretty ashamed of us by now, too. Bonobos, on the other hand, know exactly where we're coming from.

By: Red58

Red58 — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:31:05 -0800

If there's any cosmic justice, all the men who raped this ape will die from some grizzly disease they picked up from the sex. And that madam too.

By: rob511

rob511 — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:32:35 -0800

Asked the Santa in Borneo's toni- Est mall, "What's on your list, a new Sony Or a Barbie, my dear?" Said the lass with a sneer, "Refill blades and a My Little Pony!"

By: 517

517 — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:41:41 -0800

I wonder how all the human prostitutes felt when an army of police men showed up to rescue someone from that hellish life... and chose the orangutan.

By: Lillitatiana

Lillitatiana — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:27 -0800

i_am_joe's_spleen: I understand that a fully grown orangutan is quite strong enough to rip your arms out of their sockets, and it saddens me that Pony wasn't wise to that. It says in the second paragraph that Pony was chained to a wall....

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:05 -0800

“why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings?” Many folks do. Certainly familiarity breeds a certain degree of contempt or complacency. But in some respects there’s an expectation - and not necessarily warranted - that a human being will make their own choices. But even so, animals are so powerless by contrast to nearly any human that it is indeed a shock that someone would so callously take advantage of one. And to find that perspective - the perspective of someone who would go to rape an animal - more common is a bit shocking. By contrast we expect to be shocked by human slavery or child prostitutes and the like. We’re shocked by the act of course, but the revelation of something like this is akin to a revelation that our next door neighbor travels to Burma or wherever as a sex tourist and has sex with children. We know it’s out there, we know people do it, but it’s more of a shock to find closer to home even though it’s still an affront. This, I think, gets that same first blush shock we no longer get from the depravities we expect. ‘People trap, shave, train and force an animal to debase itself and other humans in such a way? WTF?’ And then on to the other more common reactions we have for any abusive exploitation. But it seems bigger because of that first blush, that initial shock of human depravity in a form we hadn’t really expected. And indeed, in an organized form. People have sex with horses, dogs, what have you, bit of a shock that it’s organized and people are making money off of it. The venom we have for such people might be less than we’d have for those who traffic in children, but it gets a bit more attention because of the novelty of the idea. And of course, the relief of at least some ridicule that isn’t at all possible with some of the deeper or closer to home horrors.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:11:22 -0800

Thought you had outrage fatigue? Here's the cure. Pffft. Eating blood-gorged leeches? You'll believe anything those Chinese medicine quacks tell you.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:20:28 -0800

This all started with that dude from Trading Places getting revenge.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:26:27 -0800

If there's any cosmic justice, all the men who raped this ape will die from some grizzly disease they picked up from the sex. "Grizzly disease?" Are you thinking of Super Troopers? [NSFW]

By: meehawl

meehawl — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:26:42 -0800

Adopt an Orangutan at the Borneo Orangutan Survival website.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:22:44 -0800

And here I thought Man had Dominion over All Animals. What's the big deal?

By: ramix

ramix — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:39:14 -0800

This makes me sad. Very sad.

By: ersatz

ersatz — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:44:28 -0800

Frank Zappa was allegedly once on Tonight show discussing theories about the origin of AIDS. The monkey connection was broached and Frank said "I'd like to know who's plunking the monkeys." Don't even ask Frank. It's a small jump from ape to monkey.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:58:18 -0800

I don't think this is what Rufus Thomas had in mind when he sang "Can Your Monkey Do the Dog?"

By: digiFramph

digiFramph — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:11:43 -0800

Fucking monkeys.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:15:15 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? we don't like furries

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:21:50 -0800

Don't even ask Frank. Why not ask him? He seems a funny enough guy, and probably better suited to the show's audience than an expert in primate epidemiology.

By: ChestnutMonkey

ChestnutMonkey — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:46:01 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? i suppose it is novel. They Do. A couple articles from the Kid's Issue of Vice. FYI - They say the second link is "probably the harshest thing we’ve ever published".

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:38:38 -0800

All those posts on underexposed World War II stories. All the quick posts on things I stumbled across on the web which I thought might give someone a smile, or garner some interesting discussion. That simple crappy google dump I did on deep sea creatures that people somehow seem to find over and over again. All the researched, re-researched, and overeagerly linked write-ups about social issues in Europe. All of those songs. The longboat annals. All the drive-by stolen-from-popurls single-link flavour-of-the-day posts that always seem be met with either gushing lovefests or furious disapproval. The elaborate in-jokey comments I wrote when I just joined Metafilter out of a naive desire to demonstrate how "hip to the cabal" I was. Even that Europanto post, one of the few posts I made that I actually still like. All overtaken by a blue, throwaway element-reversal joke about a prostitute primate. Thanks, Metafilter.

By: scalefree

scalefree — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:30 -0800

If there's any cosmic justice, all the men who raped this ape will die from some grizzly disease they picked up from the sex. I think you're getting your stories confused.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:48 -0800

why does everyone get all uppity about this and not forced prostitution of human beings? Me? I get throughly, machete sharpening uppity about the forced prostitution of human beings. Other than that, what Smedleyman said.

By: Reggie Digest

Reggie Digest — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:15:06 -0800

Just to clear this up once and for all: Monkeys have tails, apes do not have tails, and humans are horrible.

By: mountain_william

mountain_william — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:12:47 -0800

This is disgusting. Oh, and for those of us* who managed to pull a joke or two out of this horrifying story of vile abuse and degradation: I sincerely hope something like this happens to you. If this planet is invaded by 'superior' beings tomorrow I hope they hunt your asses down, chain you to the walls of your cells, and teach you to start humpin' as soon as a potential customer approaches with an erect tentacle and a valid form of currency. You callous shitwads. *Yeah, I'm one of us. But I'm not one of YOU.

By: dasheekeejones

dasheekeejones — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:59:06 -0800

I think I need to Lysol my brain. What a horrible story.

By: cjorgensen

cjorgensen — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:45:02 -0800

mountain_william, I'd rather make a joke in the face of something horrible than wish something horrible on someone for doing so. So get a sense of humor, and look into the mirror to see a callous shitwad, you callous shitwad. Nice attempt at moral superiority. Too bad you failed. Welcome to humanity.

By: ersatz

ersatz — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:36:44 -0800

Why not ask him? He seems a funny enough guy, and probably better suited to the show's audience than an expert in primate epidemiology. Oops, I meant to write "Don't even ask, Frank". The lack of sleep shows.

By: ewkpates

ewkpates — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:38:01 -0800

Oh you will cook and eat the animal, but you draw the line at sex? I'll take the monkey lover over you sick bastards any day.

By: scalefree

scalefree — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:00:15 -0800

You callous shitwads. You know, as I started reading this post I was prepared to react the way you did, with righteous indignation at anybody who cracked a joke at the poor animal's expense. But as I read the jokes I found myself smiling & then laughing along with everybody else, even as I winced at my own reaction. We're not laughing at the orangutan, we're laughing at ourselves & each other. Heinlein had it pegged¹, humor is a reaction to pain. ¹Stranger in a Strange Land

By: Arturus

Arturus — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:51:22 -0800

yhbc: Here I was, wondering why that comment suddenly got 10 new favorites over the course of last night. Now I see it was all your fault. Also, what everyone else said about this story. Ugh.

By: snoktruix

snoktruix — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:20:37 -0800

Rape an Ape

By: Reggie Digest

Reggie Digest — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:31:22 -0800

Oh you will cook and eat the animal, but you draw the line at sex? I'll take the monkey lover over you sick bastards any day. I think most people in this thread would be equally up in arms about someone cooking and eating an orangutan. It's like this: You look the other way while we eat the occasional pig, and we'll gladly look away while you fuck one every now and then; orangutans are off the menu for everyone.

By: Arturus

Arturus — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:34:10 -0800

Also, for me at least, it's less the having sex with the animal and more the whole chained to the wall, shaved with horrible skin conditions, conditioned to offer itself for sex whenever someone is around. Take an animal, treat it well, have sex with it from time to time, I don't care, or more accurately, there's a debate to be had there. This is animal cruelty any way you slice it. The sex is just a part of that which provokes a visceral reaction.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:35:46 -0800

What scalefree said. I see where you're coming from, mountain_william, but we're just whistling past the graveyard.

By: j-urb

j-urb — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:52:13 -0800

What if the person is married to the animal and they live happily ever after? I'm just saying. . .

By: BBWgirl

BBWgirl — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:28:21 -0800

The world is a strange place.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:18 -0800

Apes and humans have common ancestors but should they have the same rights? All living things share a common ancestor.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:56:03 -0800

All living things share a common ancestor. And, soon, a common descendent.