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	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:25:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Of Beer And Chocolate</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12910-ancient-beer-pots-point-to-origins-of-chocolate.html&quot;&gt;Chocolate and the Beer of the Ancients&lt;/a&gt;. New archaeological evidence suggests that primitive &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1698&quot;&gt;beer brewers &lt;/a&gt;were the first to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/11/071112-chocolate.html&quot;&gt;discover &lt;/a&gt;the goodness of chocolate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:07:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>amyms</dc:creator>		<category>beer</category>		<category>chocolate</category>		<category>archaeology</category>		<category>science</category>		<category>brewing</category>		<category>ancient</category>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920236</link>	
		<description>Beer, is there anything you can&apos;t do?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:25:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Artw</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pmbuko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920242</link>	
		<description>Beer is terrible at removing rust.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:35:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Urban Hermit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920256</link>	
		<description>But it takes care of the initial motivation to do so, which is all that really matters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:54:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Urban Hermit</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920279</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;...primitive beer brewers were the first to discover the goodness of chocolate.&lt;/i&gt;

Thus laying the two key foundations for the creation of the nation of Belgium!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:27:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>flapjax at midnite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: telstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920285</link>	
		<description>chocolatey flavors are still highly prized by beer brewers in such recipes as stout and porter....mmm chocolate</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Urban Hermit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920295</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Thus laying the two key foundations for the creation of the nation of Belgium!&lt;/em&gt;

Ah!  I had always wondered why the Flemish-French duality didn&apos;t tear them apart, but little did I know there were far more primal forces of unity at work...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:45:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Urban Hermit</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dreamsign</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920297</link>	
		<description>And a nice chunk of dark chocolate will go well with a dark beer without that flavouring already.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:46:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920307</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;...a nice chunk of dark chocolate will go well with a dark beer...&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I&apos;m a fan of dark chocolate consumed right alongside beer of the &lt;i&gt;not-so-dark&lt;/i&gt; persuasion as well. Enjoying a nice chunk of Cote d&apos;Or &lt;i&gt;Noir de noir&lt;/i&gt; alongside a typical pils is something I learned to do while living in dreary old Brussels back in 1983, and I like beer and chocolate together to this day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:53:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>flapjax at midnite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hat Maui</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920388</link>	
		<description>someone alert tay zonday!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:30:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ira.metafilter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920507</link>	
		<description>Um. I read that as &lt;em&gt;&quot;Chocolate and the Bear of the Ancients. New archaeological evidence suggests that primitive bear brewers were the first to discover the goodness of chocolate.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; That&apos;s why I came in here.

I need more sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:14:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncleozzy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920532</link>	
		<description>... and here comes some American brewer to make &quot;Imperial Chicha.&quot;  

This makes great sense, though, since you&apos;ve always got to wonder, who realized that the seeds of this thing taste great once the pod (&lt;i&gt;a little smaller than a modern American football&lt;/i&gt;) has been fermented?  Well, if you&apos;re making beer with it, you might just find out coincidentally.  Mmm, beer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:49:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cog_nate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920556</link>	
		<description>flapjax, alongside a &lt;em&gt;pils&lt;/em&gt;?  It seems to me that the hop bitterness in a pils and the chocolate bitterness would clash too much.  Now, a chocolate torte with a kriek or framboise -- that&apos;s marvelous.

Thanks for the links, amyms.  Good reading.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tommasz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920724</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m off to the homebrew store for ingredients for a nice porter. I&apos;m sure there&apos;s a chocolate that will go well with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:03:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cog_nate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1920779</link>	
		<description>Hey tommasz, if you like vanilla, get a real vanilla bean or two to put in that porter.  One of the guys in my homebrew club made a vanilla porter last year that was phenomenally good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ClaudiaCenter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921018</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I thought it said bears discovered chocolate too.  Whoever, I&apos;m glad they did.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:59:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921115</link>	
		<description>Maybe I&apos;ve misread this thread, but I&apos;m of the opinion that feeding beer and chocolate to bears is a recipe for disaster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:35:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tkchrist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921204</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Maybe I&apos;ve misread this thread, but I&apos;m of the opinion that feeding beer and chocolate to bears is a recipe for disaster.&lt;/em&gt;

No. No. It&apos;s a recipe for chocolate beer fed bear.  And it is delicious. It&apos;s all in the timing of when you harvest them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:26:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921373</link>	
		<description>Vegemite - a more recent invention - was also originally a byproduct of beer, suggesting that Vegemite is evolutionarily superior to chocolate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:39:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921380</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Beer, is there anything you can&apos;t do?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, the pyramids were built on beer (figuratively speaking), and there are theories that the very first impulse towards agriculture was for the purposes of growing grains for brewing.

Brewing is older than sedentary agriculturalism, though. The ancients used to gather wild honey, put it in a pot with water &amp;amp; go on with their hunter-gather ramblings. Wild yeasts in the air would land in the pot, ferment the honey, whereupon the people would return &amp;amp; drink the resultant alcoholic goodness. Presumably, fermentation was discovered when some honeywater energy drink had been left behind &amp;amp; consumed at a later date. Not having a clue as to how this happened, the ancients probably put it down to some sort of magic.

Fermentation from grains was a newer process though, because the complex starches in grains need to be broken down with enzymes before the yeasties will eat them. Honey &amp;amp; other forms of sugars are already in a yeast-friendly form, and thus were the basis of the oldest kind of fermentation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:48:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zinger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921536</link>	
		<description>This thread is not complete without a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/youngs-double-chocolate-stout/139/&quot;&gt;a chocolate beer&lt;/a&gt;.

There&apos;s also a very good vanilla porter brewed somewhere near Hull, but I can&apos;t think of the name of it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66743/Of-Beer-And-Chocolate#1921662</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;flapjax, alongside a pils?&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s true, I like it! I guess I&apos;m kinda weird...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:02:53 -0800</pubDate>
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