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	<title>Comments on: When Employees get Disgruntled</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:47:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>When Employees get Disgruntled</title>
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		<description>Imagine you&apos;re a pilot trying to control a jet when your skull has been smashed with a hammer and your co-workers are trying to subdue a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tailstrike.com/070494.htm&quot;&gt;madman with a speargun&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That was the grisly scenario aboard FedEx Flight 705 in 1994 when a pilot on the verge of being fired &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdqujbyEtY&amp;feature=related&quot;&gt;hatched a bizarre plan&lt;/a&gt; to both wreak revenge on his employer and provide for his family afterward. The crew survived, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/sep/04/hijacking-attempt-changed-pilots/&quot;&gt;their careers as commerical aviators &lt;/a&gt;didn&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:41:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oriole Adams</dc:creator>		<category>hijackings</category>		<category>airplane</category>		<category>FedEx</category>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922090</link>	
		<description>All right, let me imagine this scenario ....

AAARRGGGHHHH!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:47:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Astro Zombie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: M.C. Lo-Carb!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922107</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;goatrope&lt;/em&gt;

Watch that language, Captain Sanders!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:08:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>M.C. Lo-Carb!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: isopraxis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922112</link>	
		<description>The way the fpp reads, I initially thought this was going to be some crazy flash game somewhat akin to the one where you defend your building against zombies.  

As it turns out, the real situation on the aircraft didn&apos;t sound fun at all. 

Anybody wielding a spear gun and twin hammers has got to be at least part zombie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hal9k</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922117</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Within days, the FBI searched Calloway&apos;s apartment and uncovered detailed evidence of his plan. Calloway would attempt to have that evidence suppressed for lack of probable cause, but was unsuccessful. &lt;/em&gt;

The judge does not agree, and he tells them so-o-o-o</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:14:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JHarris</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922122</link>	
		<description>I also assumed this was a flash game on first glance.  Weird, that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:29:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Locative</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922127</link>	
		<description>Wow, great story!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitterOldPunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922128</link>	
		<description>Holy shit. Putting a DC-10 into a barrel-roll at 400 mph while partially paralyzed and suffering massive head trauma while being attacked by a madman with a speargun and then SUCCESSFULLY LANDING THE PLANE.

If anyone deserves a commercial pilot&apos;s license, it&apos;s this guy. I would feel very, very safe flying with him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:38:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Krrrlson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922131</link>	
		<description>When this is made into a movie, they should replace the villain with a killer shark.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:42:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: splice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922133</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Within days, the FBI searched Calloway&apos;s apartment and uncovered detailed evidence of his plan.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&apos;t that kind of defeat the purpose of making this seem like an accident?

[img]Somehow, I don&apos;t think you thought your cunning plan all the way through[/img]</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:45:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Epenthesis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922137</link>	
		<description>As Thanksgiving stories go, this rocks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:49:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderwire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922140</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Imagine you&apos;re a pilot trying to control a jet when your skull has been smashed with a hammer and your co-workers are trying to subdue a madman with a speargun.&lt;/i&gt;

OK, I&apos;m imagining that, and it&apos;s not pleasant. It might be better if I knew how to fly a plane. But on balance, still pretty bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:55:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue_beetle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922146</link>	
		<description>Kramer: Yeah, yeah. Then, all of a sudden, this guy pulls out a gun. Well, I knew any delay is gonna cost her her pinky toe, so I got out of the seat, and I started walking towards him. He says, &quot;Where do you think you&apos;re going, Cracker Jack?&quot; I say, &quot;Well, I got a little prize for ya, buddy.&quot; (Makes punching moves.) Plow! Plat! Ke-yah! Knocked him out cold.
George: How could you do that!?
Kramer: Then everybody is screaming, because the driver, he&apos;s passed out because of all the commotion. The bus is OUT of control. So I grab him by the collar, I take him out of the seat, I get behind the wheel. Now I&apos;m driving the bus.
George: You&apos;re Batman.
Kramer: Yeah, yeah, I am Batman. Then the mugger, he comes to, and he starts choking me. So I&apos;m fighting him off with one hand and I kept driving the bus with the other. Then, I managed to open up the door, and I kicked him out the door, you know, with my foot, you know, at the next stop.
Jerry: You kept making all the stops!?
Kramer: Well people kept ringing the bell!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:05:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phantomx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922147</link>	
		<description>I had just heard about this story two weeks ago.  I&apos;d been meaning to actually find out what the story was.  Jumpseating has been taken away, but only a few years ago.  Mainly at the request of the crews I believe.  I&apos;m pretty sure I&apos;ve loaded this plane many times before I&apos;ll keep an eye out for it.  I love having stories about the planes I&apos;m loading.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:05:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderwire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922148</link>	
		<description>That transcript is unreal. I&apos;m fairly sure the CVR site has been linked before, because I remember being creeped out by it. It&apos;s looking to be a macabre Thanksgiving...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:07:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922157</link>	
		<description>3rd on the flash game... no go on someone and make this spear-gun-toting fantasy a reality...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:23:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skwirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922160</link>	
		<description>That flight crew is bad ass and I hope they have received a lot of support and compensation in the past decade.

Makes me think of all the pundits and politicians who were all, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;rls=com.microsoft%3A*&amp;q=%22No+one+could+have+imagined+them+taking+a+plane%22&quot;&gt;no one could imagine terrorists using planes as missiles&lt;/a&gt;.&quot; Let&apos;s see: Auburn Calloway imagined it. Dylan and Eric imagined it. Tom Clancy imagined it. Hell, the Japanese kamakazi imagined it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:31:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: absalom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922163</link>	
		<description>That pilot is a frequent speaker here in Memphis. I&apos;m still impressed whenever I read or hear his story. He&apos;s a hell of a guy. Obviously.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:35:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hjo3</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922165</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The judge does not agree, and he tells them so-o-o-o&lt;/i&gt;

Haha, brilliant reference!

(Ever seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/239712&quot;&gt;the HotDiggedyDemon animation&lt;/a&gt;?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:37:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922173</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Calloway would attempt to have that evidence suppressed for lack of probable cause, but was unsuccessful. &lt;/i&gt;

Really?  After you smuggled weapons onto an airplane and brutally attacked the flight crew, you still thought the FBA lacked a reasonable belief that you had committed a crime?

&lt;i&gt;Really?&lt;/i&gt;

I love trial antics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kirth Gerson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922178</link>	
		<description>Imagine you&apos;re the pilot of one of those (then) new Boeing 767s. The plane has a known bug in the fuel-level indicators, but you, your crew, and the ground crew have all done multiple manual checks and assured yourselves that there&apos;s enough fuel on board for the flight. Then, more than fifty miles from your destination, one of the two engines shows a low-fuel-pressure warning, and then quits. You can fly the plane on one engine though, so no danger. Then the other engine does the same thing. You&apos;re now flying &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=744#more-744&quot;&gt;an almost-200-ton glider&lt;/a&gt;, with no instruments and only partial hydraulic pressure. Fortunately, you&apos;re also an experienced glider pilot. Have fun.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:03:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kirth Gerson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922225</link>	
		<description>Can we blame Mr. Asoh for any of this?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:11:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: veggieboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922229</link>	
		<description>Great post. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:26:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Estragon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922234</link>	
		<description>A charge of air piracy?  Is that more serious than attempted murder??</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:44:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Estragon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: you</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922235</link>	
		<description>Wow. &lt;pre&gt;JT: Do you, uh, live over in Arkansas, Dave, or...?
DS: Naw, I live in Fisherville.
JT: Aw, Fisherville, great spot.
(Sounds of hammer blows striking pilots.)&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:44:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Free word order!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922237</link>	
		<description>Those CVR transcripts would make really weird amateur radio plays (Metafilter podcast special?):

&lt;i&gt;(Sounds of hammer blows striking pilots.)
AP: Ow!
JT: God!
JT: Oh, ah, shit.
DS: God almighty!
AP: Ow!
JT: What the fuck are you doing?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:47:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Free word order!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: veggieboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922239</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Bvrj2vm3U&quot;&gt;a continuation&lt;/a&gt; of the YouTube video linked in the post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:49:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: subbes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922244</link>	
		<description>Nice.  Sure beats the DHL plane that flew into the forest up here because the pilot got confused between the airport and the paper processing plant.

Would saying &quot;well, no wonder all my FedEx packages arrive  mangled&quot; be too much black humor?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:05:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Estragon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922249</link>	
		<description>Actually, I think I can see why they went with a charge of air piracy.   While Calloway&apos;s plan to crash the plane for death benefits seems clear, it might have been harder to establish that intention in court.

After watching the video, I&apos;m wondering what kind of security measures FedEx pilots have to endure these days.  While riding the moon-shuttle busses at Dulles, I&apos;ve heard support staff bitching about the security measures to which they&apos;re subject, and it sounds pretty tiresome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:16:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sdodd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922318</link>	
		<description>From &lt;strong&gt;Kirth Gerson&lt;/strong&gt;&apos;s link:

&quot;Meanwhile several astute racetrack workers dashed to the nose of Flight 143 and doused a small friction-induced fire using hand-held extinguishers.&quot;

*jaw drops*

What&apos;s going through these guys&apos; heads?  &lt;em&gt;Well, that&apos;s a fire over there, and I have a fire extinguisher in my hands, so...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:30:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922324</link>	
		<description>None of those three attacked men has ever flown again. So tragic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:40:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bicyclefish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922337</link>	
		<description>UA to Tower: 35.9er, good job with emergency.
(sounds of struggle in rear)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:05:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tarheelcoxn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922363</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tigerroll.ytmnd.com/&quot; title=&quot;sorry, but I had to.&quot;&gt;Do a Barrel Roll!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:42:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KirkJobSluder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922368</link>	
		<description>I wonder if also there is also a dual jurisdiction issue with an attempted murder charge.  At any rate, in the federal court system assault, with intent to commit murder is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000113----000-.html&quot;&gt;20 max&lt;/a&gt;, while air piracy is potentially eligible for the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm01410.htm&quot;&gt;death penalty&lt;/a&gt;.  So yes, at least in the eyes of the U.S. government, aircraft piracy is the offense with a harsher penalty and incorporates most crimes committed against crew members.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:50:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922399</link>	
		<description>Great post, Oriole Adams - what a scary story!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:36:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922415</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;... they should replace the villain with a &lt;s&gt;killer&lt;/s&gt; clever shark.&lt;/em&gt;

Fixed that for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:19:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922419</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wouldn&apos;t that kind of defeat the purpose of making this seem like an accident?&lt;/em&gt;

Agreed. And didn&apos;t he know that the &quot;black box&quot; recorders nearly always get found in a information-retrievable state (happy to be corrected on that, of course)?

British Airways flight. Pilot gets sucked out the window at 17,000 feet. Steward holds onto his legs the whole time. He survives and is still flying. Absolutely amazing story. A good TV version (re enactment, interviews) can be found on &lt;em&gt;Air Crash Investigation&lt;/em&gt;.

This might be the link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvkuMwSOjEc&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvkuMwSOjEc&lt;/a&gt;

Wiki link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390&lt;/a&gt;

I think this story is slightly cooler, but.

And if y&apos;all are gonna be quoting your fave bits, here&apos;s mine:

&lt;strong&gt;JT: Get him, get him, get him!
AC: I&apos;m gonna kill you!
AC: Hey, hey! I&apos;ll kill ya!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:34:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922423</link>	
		<description>The left windshield, on the captain&apos;s side of the cockpit, had suffered a catastrophic failure. Lancaster was jerked out of his seat by the rushing air and sucked head first out of the cockpit; his knees snagging onto the flight controls. This left him with his whole upper torso out of the aircraft, and only his legs inside. The door to the flight deck was blown out onto the radio and navigation console, blocking the throttle control which caused the plane to continue &lt;strong&gt;gaining speed &lt;/strong&gt;as they descended, while papers and other debris in the passenger cabin began blowing towards the cockpit. On the flight deck at the time, flight attendant Nigel Ogden &lt;strong&gt;quickly latched his hands onto the captain&apos;s belt&lt;/strong&gt; [oh, I say!]. Susan Price and another flight attendant began to reassure passengers, secure loose objects, and take up emergency positions. Meanwhile, Lancaster was being &lt;strong&gt;battered and frozen in the 500mph slipstream&lt;/strong&gt;, and was losing consciousness due to the thin air.

&lt;strong&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390&lt;/strong&gt;

Yep. He survived and was physically fit enough / get-back-on-the-horse enough to resume flying.

Bloody amazing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:50:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vertigo25</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922426</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a couple MP3s from the flight recorders of the FedEx highjacking at this page: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.airdisaster.com/cvr/atcwav.shtml&quot;&gt;http://www.airdisaster.com/cvr/atcwav.shtml&lt;/a&gt;

Scroll down to FedEx Flight 705.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:56:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: breezeway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922435</link>	
		<description>This is all just a big commercial, like that movie Cast Away.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:37:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Locative</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922449</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;And didn&apos;t he know that the &quot;black box&quot; recorders nearly always get found in a information-retrievable state (happy to be corrected on that, of course)?
&lt;/em&gt;

In the dramatization/docutmentary, he kept disabling the cockpit voice recorder.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderwire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922455</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;What&apos;s going through these guys&apos; heads? Well, that&apos;s a fire over there, and I have a fire extinguisher in my hands, so...&lt;/i&gt;

Generally there&apos;s a lot of guys at racing events sitting around with fire extinguisher, and figured that it&apos;s basically the same principle as a burning racecar... I mean, it makes sense if you consider that it basically landed on the same principle as a glider.

&lt;i&gt;And didn&apos;t he know that the &quot;black box&quot; recorders nearly always get found in a information-retrievable state (happy to be corrected on that, of course)?

In the dramatization/docutmentary, he kept disabling the cockpit voice recorder.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, if had been able to kill the crew, he&apos;d have plenty of time to take those hammers to the recorder. Of course, that might be giving him too much credit considering that he left he plans for his scheme lying around -- seems like that might put a cramp in the life insurance claim he wanted for his family.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:33:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922460</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yeah, if had been able to kill the crew, he&apos;d have plenty of time to take those hammers to the recorder.&lt;/em&gt;

Er. OK. Did not know you can access black boxes from inside the plane. In fact, logic would dictate that you shouldn&apos;t be able to.

But I&apos;m no expert and there are soooo many propeller head (pun intended) aviation fanboys out there I don&apos;t particularly wanna get in an argument about it!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:39:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922464</link>	
		<description>I could swear this was on mefi before, but I can&apos;t find it.  Pretty bizarre what lengths some people will go to though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderwire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922466</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232&quot;&gt;UA 232&lt;/a&gt; had the opposite problem that the gimli glider had -- one of their engines blew out, which conseqently gave fuel and thrust, but no navigation. (Anyone here want to guess on you do that? How would you find someone who knew how?)

Fortunately, there was an experience DC-10 Trainer pilot on board who was able to land the plane intact and with the majority of passengers and crews alive. Very few no-control-surface landings do occur -- one of my favorite stories is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_shootdown_incident_in_Baghdad&quot;&gt;The DHL Jet shot by a SAM &lt;/a&gt; that had no hydraulics but still managed to land</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:53:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922472</link>	
		<description>caddis, perhaps it was shown as dramatisation on TV? Over here there&apos;s been one of these amazing stories almost every night so I knew about this one, the amazing glide-flight and that pilot that hung outside of his cockpit window - making the mistake of watching every single one before boarding a flight to Boston. Most. Tense. Flight. Ever.  for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:07:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dawson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922473</link>	
		<description>man oh man. while tragic, that is all kinds of awesome. thanks for the extra links to the audio and second part of the documentary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:15:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ersatz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922535</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Can we blame Mr. Asoh for any of this?&lt;/em&gt;
As you Americans say, Asoh $%@&amp;amp;-up.

Quite a story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:50:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: triv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922583</link>	
		<description>Great link, great story.

Nutter, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:36:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66799/When-Employees-get-Disgruntled#1922594</link>	
		<description>And then you also have the &lt;a href=&quot;http://shippai.jst.go.jp/en/Contents?fn=0&amp;id=CB1071009&amp;idx=1&quot;&gt;Amazing Convertible 737&lt;/a&gt;; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236&quot;&gt;Azores Glider&lt;/a&gt; (curiously enough, also Canadian).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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