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	<title>Comments on: Alhamdulillah</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:15:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Alhamdulillah</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.elshaarani.com/links/pictures.html"&gt;Mouneer Al-Shaarani&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; beautiful Syrian calligraphy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any Arab-literates out there who can tell me what they all mean?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:12:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>klangklangston</dc:creator>		<category>calligraphy</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>design</category>		<category>shaarani</category>		<category>alshaarani</category>		<category>elshaarani</category>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927089</link>	
		<description>Forgive me, as I only just realized I could link to the images: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/imgs/12.gif&quot;&gt;These&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/imgs/27.gif&quot;&gt;are&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/links/pages/104.htm&quot;&gt;favorites&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:15:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927092</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/imgs/20.gif&quot;&gt;These&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/links/pages/43.htm&quot;&gt;too&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:18:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927095</link>	
		<description>Heh. Those are all probably better seen in-site, as outside they tend to be ridiculously small.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:19:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: isopraxis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927105</link>	
		<description>Gorgeous.  I&apos;ve always marveled at the flow and geometry of kufic calligraphy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:25:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ersatz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927120</link>	
		<description>I once had a calligrapher in Istanbul write my name in Arabic and Latin characters; my awful handwriting is the only thing that prevented me from being too jealous of him. My deeply seated belief that I was a man of music also helped but, hey, I was young.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cell divide</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927134</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been a fan of this guy for awhile, I have this great mini-book of an exhibition he did in Egypt. Beautiful stuff. I tend to like the more graphic/modern stuff like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/photos/20.jpg&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elshaarani.com/photos/13.jpg&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;. What&apos;s also fun about this stuff is trying to read what they say!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:48:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927174</link>	
		<description>I took a class on arabic calligraphy, but I still can&apos;t always decipher where the letters are hidden in the patterns. It&apos;s just such an amazing art.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:11:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doubtful_guest</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927179</link>	
		<description>These are absolutely beautiful. Thanks for posting! If only I knew what they mean...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:14:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927255</link>	
		<description>Very nice stuff&amp;mdash;thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:48:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DenOfSizer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927282</link>	
		<description>I wish I could do my grocery lists like this.  Superlovely, thanks for the link!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:06:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927289</link>	
		<description>C&apos;mon, LH, tell us what they say...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:12:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carsonb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927302</link>	
		<description>I saw this site the other day&amp;mdash;his stuff is mind-boggling even without knowing what it all means. Skulking around MeFi to find links to similar stuff, I scored jackpot with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/18703/&quot; title=&quot;mediareport does Arabic Calligraphy&quot;&gt;mediareport&apos;s &apos;02 post on Arabic calligraphy&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks for this post, neat stuff!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:21:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carsonb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927304</link>	
		<description>(You can work around many of the 404s in the post, but lots of the links work straightaway.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:22:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: edmz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927879</link>	
		<description>I find arab calligraphy beautiful. But, in the same way, I find some types of graffiti &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dai03402.jpg&quot;&gt;equally gorgeous&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:30:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: omarr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927887</link>	
		<description>You guys should also check out the work of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hajinoordeen.com/about.html&quot;&gt;Haji Noor Deen&lt;/a&gt;. He mixes traditional Islamic and Chinese calligraphy styles beautifully. Heck of a nice guy as well.

kk, if you&apos;ve got specific translation requests, let me know. There are way too many there for me to try to do them all.

edmz, that&apos;s a gorgeous piece.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nicolin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1927949</link>	
		<description>thanks, that&apos;s beautiful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:15:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1928102</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m such an idiot. I posted this to my site ages ago and when I just tried to find it I couldn&apos;t. Reason being: I&apos;d misattributed the work to Al-Shaarani&apos;s teacher, Badawi Al Dirany. But thanks klang for being reminded. It&apos;s the perfect script made for abstraction into so many forms and also has that unique magic of being indecipherable to my non-arabic eye.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:32:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1928242</link>	
		<description>Ever since the US has idiotically decided Islam is the new Nazism I&apos;ve been looking for a beautiful sample of Arabic calligraphy to frame and hang in my house. I don&apos;t even know where to begin to purchase something like this; so much of what I&apos;ve seen is religious in intent, not decorative. Any suggestions?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:20:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1928255</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;so much of what I&apos;ve seen is religious in intent, not decorative&lt;/em&gt;

Huh?  Are the two incompatible?  Is Chartres Cathedral not a work of art because it&apos;s religious in intent?  Beautiful calligraphy is beautiful no matter what it says.  And I doubt there&apos;s such a thing as purely decorative calligraphy, because calligraphy involves text, and text says something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1928314</link>	
		<description>Sorry, I didn&apos;t mean to suggest a dichotomy between religious and decorative. More I&apos;m just worried that it would somehow be inappropriate cultural appropriation to hang a religious statement I don&apos;t understand on my wall. Then again I have Christian art on my walls and I&apos;m not particularly Christian, so this may well not make any sense.

Let me try again. I love the design and artistry of Arabic calligraphy and I respect the centuries of religious and cultural heritage behind it. How can I collect some original calligraphy for display purposes?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:03:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1928431</link>	
		<description>Omar&#8212;The two that Cell Divide linked to are the ones that I&apos;m most curious about.

I also wish I knew a bit more about the techniques&#8212;like, they look screen printed, but could simply be ink and brush with a steady hand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:54:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1929298</link>	
		<description>Incidentally I came across a pictograph(?) of &lt;a href=&quot;http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g70/peacay/AdamOlearius1647.jpg&quot;&gt;zoomorphic calligraphy&lt;/a&gt; yesterday - it&apos;s from 1647 and is definitely the oldest form of this ornamentation* I&apos;ve come across in a western book. (It&apos;s from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hab.de/index.htm&quot;&gt;HAB&lt;/a&gt; somewhere or other).
*[good &lt;a href=&quot;http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:B5C_kFlaR2YJ:www.jilapeacock.co.uk/publication/article/calligraphy.DOC+Robert+Hillenbrand,+zoomorphic+calligraphy&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=3&quot;&gt;background piece&lt;/a&gt; on figural calligraphy by Robert Hilldebrand, Professor of Islamic Art at the University of Edinburgh]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:26:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1929314</link>	
		<description>err...that&apos;s Robert &lt;strong&gt;Hillenbrand&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:37:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: omarr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/66927/Alhamdulillah#1930285</link>	
		<description>kk, those two are really difficult to decipher. I&apos;ll take another look at them tonight and see if I can figure anything out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:21:31 -0800</pubDate>
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