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	<title>Comments on: A Big Cheese for a Big Cheese</title>
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		<title>A Big Cheese for a Big Cheese</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Mammoth_Cheese"&gt;The Mammoth Cheese of Cheshire&lt;/a&gt; was the most unusual gift ever given to a President of the United States.  In the aftermath of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://pasleybrothers.com/jeff/writings/Pasley1800.htm&quot;&gt;&quot;Revolution of 1800&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F0CE4DB163AE033A25755C2A9669D94679FD7CF&quot;&gt;eccentric&lt;/a&gt; Baptist preacher &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mainstreambaptistnetwork.org/Georgia/Ap05/Ap05JohnLeland.htm&quot;&gt;John Leland&lt;/a&gt; decided to celebrate the presidency of Thomas Jefferson by convincing the predominantly Baptist farmers of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.berkshireweb.com/themap/cheshire/cheshire.html&quot;&gt;Cheshire, Massachusetts&lt;/a&gt; to create a giant 1,235-pound block of cheese as a monument to small-&quot;r&quot; republicanism and religious freedom. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cheese eventually reached Thomas Jefferson on New Years Day in 1802, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-2079045_ITM&quot;&gt;same day&lt;/a&gt; that Jefferson wrote his famous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpost.html&quot;&gt;letter to the Danbury Baptists&lt;/a&gt; about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/history_of_the_separation_of_chu.htm&quot;&gt;wall of separation between church and state&lt;/a&gt;.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Party_(United_States)&quot;&gt;Federalist Party&lt;/a&gt;, which opposed Jefferson&apos;s funding of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nps.gov/archive/jeff/LewisClark2/CorpsOfDiscovery/Preparing/Science.htm&quot;&gt;scientific research during the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark expedition&lt;/a&gt;, ridiculed the cheese as a &quot;mammoth,&quot; a reference to the recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=2757&quot;&gt;exhumation of a mammoth&lt;/a&gt; by the painter and naturalist, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtualology.com/virtualmuseumofart/hallofamericanart/CHARLESWILLSONPEALE.COM/&quot;&gt;Charles Willson Peale&lt;/a&gt;.  The derision of the Federalists backfired, however, as the delivery of the cheese coincided with a huge &lt;a href=&quot;http://historyproject.ucdavis.edu/khapp.php?SlideNum=1386&quot;&gt;&quot;mammoth craze&quot;&lt;/a&gt; that popularized the word &quot;mammoth&quot; as an &lt;a href=&quot;http://72.14.253.104/search?hl=en&amp;q=cache%3Awww.etymonline.com%2Findex.php%3Fterm%3Dmammoth+1802&quot;&gt;adjective&lt;/a&gt; describing anything enormous, including a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&amp;id=290&quot;&gt;mammoth loaf&lt;/a&gt; of bread gifted to Jefferson in 1804.  An experimental dairy station in Perth, Ontario eventually made a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanmarket.com/all-about-perth/past/mammoth.html&quot;&gt;bigger mammoth cheese&lt;/a&gt;, but Jefferson&apos;s mammoth cheese has inspired &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0871139006/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;a novel&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0374406278/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;a children&apos;s book&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.berkshireeagle.com/cheshire/ci_5118171&quot;&gt;a monument&lt;/a&gt; protected by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/02/09/firefighters_windfall_comes_with_a_catch/&quot;&gt;funds from the Department of Homeland Security&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Block_of_Cheese_Day&quot;&gt;a subplot on The West Wing&lt;/a&gt;.  Last but not least, check out this &lt;a href=&quot;http://pasleybrothers.com/jeff/writings/Pasley_Cheese.pdf&quot;&gt;research paper&lt;/a&gt;, which places the Mammoth Cheese of Cheshire in the context of Jeffersonian participatory democracy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:39:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934687</link>	
		<description>(Jeffrey Pasley--last link--is a very well respected historian of the early Republic.)

Fantastic post, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:52:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faint of Butt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934690</link>	
		<description>Yes, but what &lt;i&gt;kind&lt;/i&gt; of cheese?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:53:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lazaruslong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934692</link>	
		<description>Big Block of Cheese Day! yay!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:54:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weapons-grade pandemonium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934693</link>	
		<description>1,235-pounds?  It was a Munster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:55:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joseph_elmhurst</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934695</link>	
		<description>Fantastic post. Thanks.

And, oh baby, do I want a print of that Peale painting!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:55:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jquinby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934696</link>	
		<description>I love Big Block of Cheese Day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:55:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gungho</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934702</link>	
		<description>So basically this whole separation of Church and State thing was to prevent this giant wheel of Baptist Cheese from stinking up Monticello?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:58:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tkchrist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934707</link>	
		<description>January 2nd 1802 coincidentally marks &quot;Fix the White House Plumbing Day.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:00:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Floydd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934708</link>	
		<description>Wow. A mammoth cheese, a mammoth loaf of bread. He&apos;s just a mammoth jug of wine shy of a picnic!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:01:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mister_A</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934712</link>	
		<description>No one ever sends me mammoth anything. Then again I&apos;m not the President.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:03:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934713</link>	
		<description>The one and only bit of fan fiction I&apos;ve ever written was a West Wing Big Block of Cheese Day scriptfic, so this post made me smile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:03:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ericb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934717</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;He&apos;s just a mammoth jug of wine shy of a picnic!&lt;/em&gt;

Just make sure the Jefferson wines aren&apos;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/03/070903fa_fact_keefe&quot;&gt;counterfeits&lt;/a&gt; and bought by a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.luxist.com/2007/10/16/the-man-with-the-golden-cellar-wine-auction/&quot;&gt;billionaire&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:08:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rouftop</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934724</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;1,235-pounds? It was a Munster.&lt;/i&gt;

That joke really bleu.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:13:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suckerpunch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934725</link>	
		<description>The Ontario cheese was &lt;a href=&quot;http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/1367.html&quot;&gt;immortalized in verse&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:15:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suckerpunch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934731</link>	
		<description>Oh, I&apos;m sorry. The previous ode was for the Mammoth Cheese of Ontario, 1889. The Mammoth Cheese of Ontario, 1893, was not merely immortalized, but, in fact, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/prophecy-of-a-ten-ton-cheese/&quot;&gt;foretold&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:20:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: everichon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934744</link>	
		<description>Predictably, now I want cheese. And bread, and some porter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:43:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suckerpunch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934751</link>	
		<description>everichon : it&apos;s not that big, and it had no effect on participatory democracy, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wallywine.com/ps-11409-638-cahill-porter.aspx&quot;&gt;you may find it a simplification&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:48:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: everichon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934762</link>	
		<description>*head explodes in a shower of shamrocks*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:02:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zzazazz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934790</link>	
		<description>That novel by Sheri Holman is actually pretty darn good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:37:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Bellman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934807</link>	
		<description>Well I suppose this finally puts the last nail in the coffin for you foolish &quot;old Earthers&quot;. Not only were &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_mammoth&quot;&gt;mammoths&lt;/a&gt; around in the 19th century, they were being milked for cheese right here in the United States. Extinct for 12,000 years. Pah!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:57:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: signalnine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934816</link>	
		<description>This is possibly the best post of 2007. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:06:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beagle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934820</link>	
		<description>Any truth to the rumor that the Clintons found the last of that cheese in the back of the White House fridge?

Seriously, an excellent post.  As a former Berkshirite, I&apos;ve visited the cheese monument and known this story for a long time, but you added multiple extra dimensions to it.  Kudos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anotherpanacea</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1934837</link>	
		<description>Big Block of Cheese Day is based on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mountsutro.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-7&quot;&gt;Andrew Jackson&apos;s 1,400 lb. block of cheese&lt;/a&gt;, not Jefferson&apos;s smaller &apos;mammoth&apos; block. I&apos;m having a lot of trouble coming up with a &apos;big cheese for the big cheese&apos; joke I can stomach, so let&apos;s just take it as written, eh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:37:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: billyfleetwood</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935129</link>	
		<description>Hello everybody, I&apos;m going off on a tangent...

After a few drinks, I have been known to ramble on incessantly about my belief that Martin Sheen should be obligated to play the President in all movies and TV shows, until he either retires from acting, or dies. Should he be unable to perform his duties, Bill Pullman should be sworn in to replace him.

I&apos;m always disappointed when some town decides to make the worlds biggest hamburger, or the worlds biggest pancake, and it never looks appetizing or even edible.

A mammoth cheese,however, probably looks and eats like any other cheese, only bigger.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:50:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935282</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;We have seen thee, Queen of Cheese&quot;.&lt;/em&gt;

Speaking as a Perthite (well, an Ottawan, but my parents are Perthites and the homestead is there), I feel it only appropriate to put in a word for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanmarket.com/all-about-perth/past/mammoth.html&quot;&gt;our monster&lt;/a&gt;:

Unfortunately, the sign is long gone from the monument, and given its location down by the railroad tracks, now it just looks like a miniature oil tank.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/1367.html&quot;&gt;Altogether now&lt;/a&gt;. (That first line here is rendered incorrectly. It should be as above.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:03:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: biffa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935285</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;A mammoth cheese,however, probably looks and eats like any other cheese, only bigger.&lt;/em&gt;

This would only make sense if all cheeses looked and ate the same.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:07:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935297</link>	
		<description>Apologies to SuckerPunch -- I missed the fact that you got there first.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:24:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935300</link>	
		<description>Ah to hell with it... even the original post got there first.

Memo to self: Coffee; THEN Metafilter; THEN post.

I&apos;ll be better soon.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:26:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jofus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67125/A-Big-Cheese-for-a-Big-Cheese#1935525</link>	
		<description>Awesome post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:04:46 -0800</pubDate>
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