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	<title>Comments on: Pre-Friday Flash Fun</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:15:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Pre-Friday Flash Fun</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://novelconcepts.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;Paul and Dave&lt;/a&gt;, creators of the extremely popular &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/game.asp&quot;&gt;Desktop Tower Defense&lt;/a&gt; flash game, have just opened up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.casualcollective.com/&quot;&gt;their new flash games site&lt;/a&gt; to the public! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;Currently on the site are the previously-mentioned Desktop Tower Defense, an earlier game called Flash Element Tower Defense, and two new games-- Desktop Armada and Buggle. DTD and DA have multiplayer versions for additional fun. A sequel to Flash Element will be released soon and many more games are planned for the future.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:08:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>flatluigi</dc:creator>		<category>flash</category>		<category>fridayflashfun</category>		<category>towerdefence</category>		<category>towerdefense</category>		<category>desktoptowerdefense</category>		<category>game</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>multiplayer</category>		<category>fun</category>
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		<title>By: Pants!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938834</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s no &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/chatnoir/chatnoir.html&quot;&gt;chat noir...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:15:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pants!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tylermoody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938835</link>	
		<description>dear sweet fuck why did this have to happen the week before finals.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:16:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitrusFreak12</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938863</link>	
		<description>My sentiments exactly, tylermoody.

Have you no decency, flatluigi?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:41:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pompomtom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938881</link>	
		<description>Is Friday here. Ta.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:58:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flatluigi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938885</link>	
		<description>Citrus: Don&apos;t worry, I&apos;ve already been punished for this. I just lost on level 49/50 of DTD, after playing the best that I&apos;ve ever played.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:06:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>flatluigi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: about_time</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938899</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://onslaught.playr.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Onslaught&lt;/a&gt; is currently the best tower defense game, and I&apos;m not the only one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.just-whatever.com/2007/06/04/top-5-tower-defense-games/&quot;&gt;who thinks so&lt;/a&gt;. DTD was runner up though.  The nice thing about Onslaught is that which weapons you put next to one another greatly affects the game, which adds another element to everything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:26:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitrusFreak12</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938973</link>	
		<description>FFS, about_time. I&apos;ve been playing Onslaught for hours now, and I&apos;m not quite sure how long the last game went on for but I can give you the stats: &lt;blockquote&gt;Wave: 454
Kills: 4408
Shots: 222279
Spend: 972346
Score: 4236101168&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&apos;m not proud.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:59:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: limon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1938989</link>	
		<description>Tip for Chat Noir: build a porous wall by leaving a gap between each two darkened circles (that is, alternate dark-light-dark-light). Block an exit not when the cat first heads in that direction, but at the last possible turn.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:53:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EatTheWeak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939006</link>	
		<description>I know this isn&apos;t the green, but here&apos;s the thing.  I dig these tower flash games, but I have yet to unleash the fury in any one of them.

What do you Tower Defense veterans think? Is limon on to something? Do you have anything to add?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:09:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EatTheWeak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939009</link>	
		<description>Only now do I realize limon was talking about an different game, and am now dreadfully embarrassed.

I shall now play tons of chat noir, in the hopes I shall feel less awkward once I master this cat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:12:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PeterMcDermott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939026</link>	
		<description>If I ever get my hands on that goddam black cat, it&apos;s claws are toast.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:25:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939046</link>	
		<description>chat noir is essentially a simplified form of Go.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:39:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: splice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939120</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s an interesting statement, DU.

I&apos;ve played Go for years, and I don&apos;t see the relation. The grid isn&apos;t the same, the movement isn&apos;t the same, the patterns aren&apos;t the same, the game isn&apos;t the same. Care to elaborate?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:55:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939138</link>	
		<description>Have you ever played the &quot;capture game&quot; version of Go?  That&apos;s where you just try to capture each other, with no attention played to territory.  It&apos;s for teaching kids (there&apos;s controversy on how effective and useful it is, but whatevs).  

Because it&apos;s usually n00bs playing the capture game, you generally just have a huge fight where they attach stones to each other&apos;s dragons to try to surround them.  Eventually (hopefully sometimes) they realize you need to play your surrounding stones a ways back and then fill in gaps as necessary.

It&apos;s the same with this cat thing.  You can&apos;t &quot;play a stone&quot; right next to the cat to surround it.  You have to cast a wide net and then tighten it.

I guess it doesn&apos;t make the game &quot;essentially&quot; Go, but that particular aspect is identical.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:26:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: reformedjerk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939313</link>	
		<description>The problem with onslaught and other td games is they don&apos;t let you design your own maps. That&apos;s the major strength of DTD. By doing your own maps, you can &quot;juggle&quot; and use all sorts of interesting tactics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: splice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939516</link>	
		<description>Ah, I get what you&apos;re saying now. That a basic concept of go is applicable to this game in a similar way. Got it.

I prefer just plain old Go, myself. I wasn&apos;t taught using the capture game, but I&apos;ve used it on occasion to introduce other players to the game. I&apos;m ambivalent about it.

Let me know if you&apos;re up for a game sometime. I used to be 10k-8k on KGS but haven&apos;t maintained my account for a while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:04:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939722</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not too excited about the capture game either, but I&apos;ve found it&apos;s easier than trying to explain &quot;territory&quot; to a 4 year old.

I got to about the same ranking on KGS, but the only playing I&apos;ve done in like 3 years is against 30ks at work (admittedly sometimes more than one simultaneously, but still).    They&apos;ve given me lots of bad habits...in addition to the ones I already had.  I&apos;d probably be lucky to be 15 kyu now.

I&apos;ll never have time for a realtime game, but do you have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dragongoserver.net&quot;&gt;DGS&lt;/a&gt; account?  If so, I&apos;m &quot;desiredusername&quot; there and you can challenge me any time (as can anyone else reading along).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:15:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Inkoate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67248/PreFriday-Flash-Fun#1939940</link>	
		<description>DU, I sent you an invite on DGS.  Splice, if you get on there send me one too.  inkoate is the name there as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:24:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Inkoate</dc:creator>
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