rejected Justice mix released to the masses

January 21, 2008 4:12 PM

Justice, the french electro-whatever group (read: Daft Punk)(previously discussed here) recently had their addition to the prestigious FabricLive Series rejected for not entirely clear reasons, although the relatively short length (40-something minutes) and taste (or perhaps the lack of) may have been factors. Justice, being the gentlemen they are, decided to give the mix away as a Christmas present to their friends (yes, I'm a little late on this, but not as late as you, presumably), and it is now readily available for anyone to download here. I'm only familiar with a few of the artists in the mix (Fucking Champs! Goblin!), but it's a pretty good time, and definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the minimal techno mixes which Fabric usually releases, which is probably why they rejected it in the first place. Lots of old pop, funk and super-cheesy french music (and the FUCKING CHAMPS!), tell me what you guys think!
posted by domakesaypat (52 comments total)

Also: MY FIRST POST!
posted by domakesaypat at 4:13 PM on January 21, 2008

Pepsi Bleu?

Also: MY FIRST SNARK!
posted by danblaker at 4:26 PM on January 21, 2008

yes, I'm a little late on this, but not as late as you, presumably

Wrong again.

But seriously, this was a really cool move on their part. I think you will probably get a lot of flak for this post, however, as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason.
posted by synaesthetichaze at 4:30 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

Les Fleurs Belles?
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:33 PM on January 21, 2008

as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason.

I thought a band only had to be anybody's favourite, in order to suck?
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:36 PM on January 21, 2008

I saw Justice at a comically quiet festival last summer, and all you could hear was people talking about how good Daft Punk are. Says it all really.
posted by influx at 4:36 PM on January 21, 2008

as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason.

But until that can we operate on the assumption that Justice is the shit and that any mix that starts with Sparks is pretty cool?
posted by eyeballkid at 4:37 PM on January 21, 2008

Uh, what I think? I think Fabric mixes are the shit and Justice is kinda boring.
posted by jcruelty at 4:42 PM on January 21, 2008

I just got FABRIC 36 and it's stompin'. My girlfriend has my Justice album, from what I've heard in her car, they're just OK.

I'm still downloading the mix though.
posted by black8 at 4:49 PM on January 21, 2008

Yeah, in all honesty I would reject this mix if I were A&R for the Fabric Live series. I like Justice, and I like their shenanigans but this mix is more something I would expect from Back To Mine or Late Night Tales, not FabricLive.
posted by analogue at 4:52 PM on January 21, 2008

I liked that one song of theirs. It made me dance.
posted by liquorice at 4:57 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

Justice is coming to town in March! I can't wait.

If you like Justice, I suggest MSTRKRFT, as well.

Also - for future fpp's:

1: Take the time to use proper punctuation and grammar.
2: Less is more.
posted by empath at 5:01 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

It made me dance.

It made you D. A. N. C. E., no?

previously
posted by empath at 5:02 PM on January 21, 2008

tell me what you guys think!

No, please, tell me what you think!
posted by anthill at 5:13 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

and definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the minimal techno mixes which Fabric usually releases, which is probably why they rejected it in the first place.

You, sir, are an idiot. Why would Fabric expect Justice to make a minimal techno mix?
posted by dydecker at 5:14 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

Fabric Live doesn't do minimal techno anyway.
posted by empath at 5:18 PM on January 21, 2008

I mean maybe they rejected it because it was a boring old party DJ mix like any indie band would make? I mean Chic? Could you get any more obvious? Todd Rundgren, Frank Stallone, Frankie Valli? Fabric is London's premier nightclub, not some drunken student disco

/snark
posted by dydecker at 5:24 PM on January 21, 2008

tell me what you guys think.

i think you were struggling to maintain coherence toward the end of your post.
posted by bruce at 5:27 PM on January 21, 2008 [3 favorites has favorites]

Yeah, the subject of the post I like very much. It's too personal blog-style for a FPP, though. A good thing to keep in mind (from the longtime member with no FPPs, but pay no attention to that) is to pretend like you're presenting it to an audience, and you're on a stage, so you have to be fairly impersonal. You don't really want to talk to the audience as if you're in a cozy room together. Also, pretend like you're presenting this information to complete strangers, so you won't be tempted to be chatty. But Daft Punk is the reason I'm commenting anyway, so I'm glad you did.
posted by krinklyfig at 5:37 PM on January 21, 2008

Yeah, kinda light FPP, but I know I'm going to like the mix. Welcome!
posted by not_on_display at 5:42 PM on January 21, 2008

Also: MY FIRST POST!

Yes. We can tell.
posted by crossoverman at 5:54 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

I am a huge fan of the FabricLive series, I''ve been a subscriber since the very first releases, and they've done some pretty off-the-wall stuff... the John Peel mix album comes to mind. I've also had some of the best clubbing nights of my life in Fabric, coming off the dancefloor at the end of the night drenched in sweat and endorphins, head buzzing with tracks I've never heard before and tracks I thought I'd never hear in a dance club.

If you want a great FabricLive CD, look at the track list for FabricLive #9 by Jacques Lu Cont. The Steve Miller Band? Brian Eno? Devo? The Pixies? STRAUSS? But my sweet lord it works: it is a truly amazing piece of mixing, its peaks, troughs and climaxes are judged with perfect precision, and it is fantastically danceable.

This Justice mix is many things, but it's not good enough.
posted by Hogshead at 5:58 PM on January 21, 2008

That Goblin track in Justice mixes is the sample source for their own track "Phantom II," which is a both funny and ballsy.
posted by thatswherebatslive at 5:59 PM on January 21, 2008

Fabricive 37, Caspa & Rusko. It's packed with the kind of ridiculous floor-filling bass bangers that cause Pitchforkers and neckbeards to cower in fear for the demise of the genre.
posted by First Post at 6:05 PM on January 21, 2008

(also, that Justice mix has Frank Stallone "Far From Over" on it, heh)
posted by First Post at 6:10 PM on January 21, 2008

Hey, domakesaypat; SNARK, bitch! And SNARK! Heh, HA!

Also; you've burst your 'first FPP' cherry. Now there'll be less pressure.
posted by Pecinpah at 6:20 PM on January 21, 2008

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posted by Christ, what an asshole at 6:42 PM on January 21, 2008 [8 favorites has favorites]

For the lazy among us
posted by pompomtom at 6:49 PM on January 21, 2008

Yes, because we need to stand up to the abuses of Big Minimal Techno.
posted by basicchannel at 6:54 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

Christ, what an asshole: you forgot Pat Ubu.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:02 PM on January 21, 2008

And Pat Benatar, definitely forgot her.
posted by Kattullus at 7:14 PM on January 21, 2008

Grabbed the mix a week or so ago from themixingbowl and have really enjoyed it. I find Justice mixes more listenable than Daft Punk but think Daft Punk make music that will (and has been) around for longer, remixes included.
posted by jeffmik at 7:16 PM on January 21, 2008

This will not patwell.
posted by wendell at 7:17 PM on January 21, 2008

And Pat Benatar, definitely forgot her.

who could forget Love is a Pattlefield?!?
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:22 PM on January 21, 2008

The Fabric series is amazing, I have spent hours with it. And this post is appreciated. You have turned us all onto something good and possibly unnoticed. (The mix just downloaded, and I can certainly understand at the onset why Fabric said, "No.")

Now, about your fpp...

Justice, notorious french electro-house group [previously] recently had their addition to the prestigious FabricLive Series rejected for not entirely clear reasons. (Although the relatively short length, 40-something minutes and taste (lack of?) may have been factors.) As a (late) Christmas present to their fans, Justice decided to give away the mix (!!!) and it is now available for download here. [More inside...]

I'm only familiar with a few of the artists in the mix (Fucking Champs! Goblin!), but it's a pretty good time, and is definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the minimal techno other style mixes Fabric is bets known. Lots of old pop, funk and super-cheesy french music. (Not to mention, Fucking Champs! [YouTube]. Enjoy!

...and that is what I think. [ PS. If you want to know how to do the basic HTML wizardry, just "view source" from your browser, and track it down for yourself. Now, go get yourself a plate of beans and contemplate.]

PS. Use Preview.
posted by humannaire at 7:28 PM on January 21, 2008 [3 favorites has favorites]

Hey, humannaire?

That was pretty swell of you. Well done.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 7:33 PM on January 21, 2008

other style mixes Fabric is bets known.

Use preview. :)
posted by Christ, what an asshole at 7:57 PM on January 21, 2008

Also be aware in your FPP that, in what lands on the front page, some html works and some doesn't. And thanks for that mix... it was a good thing to have on while doing things around the house and with the fambly. I love old material presented in new ways.

I look forward to your next FPP!
posted by not_on_display at 8:08 PM on January 21, 2008

Oh, and Christ W.A.A. - you forgot the one we were all weaned on: Sonic Pat.
posted by not_on_display at 8:10 PM on January 21, 2008

It might be too late into the thread, but it's worth mentioning that the Fabric Podcast is incredibly good, particularly Episode 4 (featuring the eclectic soundtrack and library music finds of Jonny Trunk).
posted by grabbingsand at 8:17 PM on January 21, 2008

Yeah, um. So where's the FPP on Goblin, yo.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 8:25 PM on January 21, 2008

Justice is headlining Madison Square Garden on March 11?!

I mean, I dig Justice.. to a point, but MSG? I tend to think more of groups like Led Zeppelin for venues like that..
posted by pwedza at 8:33 PM on January 21, 2008

Wow, that really is a shit mix, but the Fabric Podcast is great. Thanks, grabbingsand.
posted by blacklite at 9:00 PM on January 21, 2008

Can't forget Be Your Own Pat.
posted by wemayfreeze at 9:26 PM on January 21, 2008

Yeah! To slay the beast of minimalist dance wankery!
Had this mix for a few weeks and it is straight up FUN.

Hey pretentious DJ assholes? Remember "fun"?

You know, fun, back before the lionization of DJ culture made all you stoic cocks pretend to be Serious Artists (the easiest path to that being obscure obtusion—noone will call you out on your wankery if they are even remotely afraid of "not getting it") and shave all the remotely interesting bits out of your music for fear of being too cheezy.

Justice (and seemingly the rest of the french dance scene right now) understand that minimalism isnt so much of a style as it is a hiding place for guys without any good ideas.

The tide is finally turning back to EVENTFUL dance music and I couldnt be happier.
posted by Senor Cardgage at 11:20 PM on January 21, 2008 [1 favorite has favorites]

Oh, please. Justice has absolutely nothing to do with minimal dance music. There is no battle. There is no tide. There is no competition for audiences. It's not like Richie Hawtin was ever playing MSG. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to say the rise of Justice/Ed Banger has precisely zero to do with electronic 4/4 at all.
posted by dydecker at 12:11 AM on January 22, 2008

Well, you get what I mean. There is room for all sorts. Saying Justice understand this and that about minimal and this is why they make their music the way they do is just specious stuff. Minimal was never even popular in Paris anyway.
posted by dydecker at 12:14 AM on January 22, 2008

And like someone said upthread, this mix was for FabricLive, which is for breaks, drum n bass etc, not Fabric, which is for house and techno. I'm really failing to see the connection here.
posted by dydecker at 12:27 AM on January 22, 2008

The tide is finally turning back to EVENTFUL dance music and I couldnt be happier.

I'm with you, Senor! The boogie is landing soon — along with a whole lotta motherships — 'cuz it's wide open, babyboom!!
posted by humannaire at 1:44 AM on January 22, 2008

Oh, please. Justice has absolutely nothing to do with minimal dance music. There is no battle. There is no tide. There is no competition for audiences. It's not like Richie Hawtin was ever playing MSG. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to say the rise of Justice/Ed Banger has precisely zero to do with electronic 4/4 at all.
posted by dydecker at 3:11 AM on January 22 [+] [!]


Well, you get what I mean. There is room for all sorts. Saying Justice understand this and that about minimal and this is why they make their music the way they do is just specious stuff. Minimal was never even popular in Paris anyway.
posted by dydecker at 3:14 AM on January 22 [+] [!]


And like someone said upthread, this mix was for FabricLive, which is for breaks, drum n bass etc, not Fabric, which is for house and techno. I'm really failing to see the connection here.
posted by dydecker at 3:27 AM on January 22 [+] [!]

SIR NOSE!
posted by humannaire at 1:50 AM on January 22, 2008

I hear half-arsed stuff like this, and think, 'Thank God for Optimo'.
posted by jack_mo at 5:08 AM on January 22, 2008

A friend of mine has a ton of FabricLive CDs at his place. I always meant to ask him who Clive was but never got round to it. Now, thanks to this thread, I know better. I also got to make myself look like a 2@ in front of a larger audience.
posted by vbfg at 8:23 AM on January 22, 2008