Comments on: rejected Justice mix released to the masses

rejected Justice mix released to the masses

domakesaypat — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:12:43 -0800

Justice, the french electro-whatever group (read: Daft Punk)(previously discussed here) recently had their addition to the prestigious FabricLive Series rejected for not entirely clear reasons, although the relatively short length (40-something minutes) and taste (or perhaps the lack of) may have been factors. Justice, being the gentlemen they are, decided to give the mix away as a Christmas present to their friends (yes, I'm a little late on this, but not as late as you, presumably), and it is now readily available for anyone to download here. I'm only familiar with a few of the artists in the mix (Fucking Champs! Goblin!), but it's a pretty good time, and definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the minimal techno mixes which Fabric usually releases, which is probably why they rejected it in the first place. Lots of old pop, funk and super-cheesy french music (and the FUCKING CHAMPS!), tell me what you guys think!

By: domakesaypat

domakesaypat — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:13:42 -0800

Also: MY FIRST POST!

By: danblaker

danblaker — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:26:06 -0800

Pepsi Bleu? Also: MY FIRST SNARK!

By: synaesthetichaze

synaesthetichaze — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:30:42 -0800

yes, I'm a little late on this, but not as late as you, presumably Wrong again. But seriously, this was a really cool move on their part. I think you will probably get a lot of flak for this post, however, as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:03 -0800

Les Fleurs Belles?

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:36:45 -0800

as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason. I thought a band only had to be anybody's favourite, in order to suck?

By: influx

influx — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:36:50 -0800

I saw Justice at a comically quiet festival last summer, and all you could hear was people talking about how good Daft Punk are. Says it all really.

By: eyeballkid

eyeballkid — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:37:55 -0800

as soon as someone cooler than me tells you that Justice sux for some reason. But until that can we operate on the assumption that Justice is the shit and that any mix that starts with Sparks is pretty cool?

By: jcruelty

jcruelty — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:42:30 -0800

Uh, what I think? I think Fabric mixes are the shit and Justice is kinda boring.

By: black8

black8 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:49:30 -0800

I just got FABRIC 36 and it's stompin'. My girlfriend has my Justice album, from what I've heard in her car, they're just OK. I'm still downloading the mix though.

By: analogue

analogue — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:52:04 -0800

Yeah, in all honesty I would reject this mix if I were A&R for the Fabric Live series. I like Justice, and I like their shenanigans but this mix is more something I would expect from Back To Mine or Late Night Tales, not FabricLive.

By: liquorice

liquorice — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:57:31 -0800

I liked that one song of theirs. It made me dance.

By: empath

empath — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:01:25 -0800

Justice is coming to town in March! I can't wait. If you like Justice, I suggest MSTRKRFT, as well. Also - for future fpp's: 1: Take the time to use proper punctuation and grammar. 2: Less is more.

By: empath

empath — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:02:34 -0800

It made me dance. It made you D. A. N. C. E., no? previously

By: anthill

anthill — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:13:02 -0800

tell me what you guys think! No, please, tell me what you think!

By: dydecker

dydecker — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:14:49 -0800

and definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the minimal techno mixes which Fabric usually releases, which is probably why they rejected it in the first place. You, sir, are an idiot. Why would Fabric expect Justice to make a minimal techno mix?

By: empath

empath — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:18:09 -0800

Fabric Live doesn't do minimal techno anyway.

By: dydecker

dydecker — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:24:23 -0800

I mean maybe they rejected it because it was a boring old party DJ mix like any indie band would make? I mean Chic? Could you get any more obvious? Todd Rundgren, Frank Stallone, Frankie Valli? Fabric is London's premier nightclub, not some drunken student disco /snark

By: bruce

bruce — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:27:24 -0800

tell me what you guys think. i think you were struggling to maintain coherence toward the end of your post.

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:08 -0800

Yeah, the subject of the post I like very much. It's too personal blog-style for a FPP, though. A good thing to keep in mind (from the longtime member with no FPPs, but pay no attention to that) is to pretend like you're presenting it to an audience, and you're on a stage, so you have to be fairly impersonal. You don't really want to talk to the audience as if you're in a cozy room together. Also, pretend like you're presenting this information to complete strangers, so you won't be tempted to be chatty. But Daft Punk is the reason I'm commenting anyway, so I'm glad you did.

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:42:42 -0800

Yeah, kinda light FPP, but I know I'm going to like the mix. Welcome!

By: crossoverman

crossoverman — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:54:44 -0800

Also: MY FIRST POST! Yes. We can tell.

By: Hogshead

Hogshead — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:58:50 -0800

I am a huge fan of the FabricLive series, I''ve been a subscriber since the very first releases, and they've done some pretty off-the-wall stuff... the John Peel mix album comes to mind. I've also had some of the best clubbing nights of my life in Fabric, coming off the dancefloor at the end of the night drenched in sweat and endorphins, head buzzing with tracks I've never heard before and tracks I thought I'd never hear in a dance club. If you want a great FabricLive CD, look at the track list for FabricLive #9 by Jacques Lu Cont. The Steve Miller Band? Brian Eno? Devo? The Pixies? STRAUSS? But my sweet lord it works: it is a truly amazing piece of mixing, its peaks, troughs and climaxes are judged with perfect precision, and it is fantastically danceable. This Justice mix is many things, but it's not good enough.

By: thatswherebatslive

thatswherebatslive — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:59:08 -0800

That Goblin track in Justice mixes is the sample source for their own track "Phantom II," which is a both funny and ballsy.

By: First Post

First Post — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:05:59 -0800

Fabricive 37, Caspa & Rusko. It's packed with the kind of ridiculous floor-filling bass bangers that cause Pitchforkers and neckbeards to cower in fear for the demise of the genre.

By: First Post

First Post — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:10:49 -0800

(also, that Justice mix has Frank Stallone "Far From Over" on it, heh)

By: Pecinpah

Pecinpah — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:20:32 -0800

Hey, domakesaypat; SNARK, bitch! And SNARK! Heh, HA! Also; you've burst your 'first FPP' cherry. Now there'll be less pressure.

By: Christ, what an asshole

Christ, what an asshole — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:42:49 -0800

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By: pompomtom

pompomtom — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:49:27 -0800

For the lazy among us

By: basicchannel

basicchannel — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:54:28 -0800

Yes, because we need to stand up to the abuses of Big Minimal Techno.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:02:36 -0800

Christ, what an asshole: you forgot Pat Ubu.

By: Kattullus

Kattullus — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:14:40 -0800

And Pat Benatar, definitely forgot her.

By: jeffmik

jeffmik — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:16:31 -0800

Grabbed the mix a week or so ago from themixingbowl and have really enjoyed it. I find Justice mixes more listenable than Daft Punk but think Daft Punk make music that will (and has been) around for longer, remixes included.

By: wendell

wendell — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:17:42 -0800

This will not patwell.

By: UbuRoivas

UbuRoivas — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:22:47 -0800

And Pat Benatar, definitely forgot her. who could forget Love is a Pattlefield?!?

By: humannaire

humannaire — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:28:35 -0800

The Fabric series is amazing, I have spent hours with it. And this post is appreciated. You have turned us all onto something good and possibly unnoticed. (The mix just downloaded, and I can certainly understand at the onset why Fabric said, "No.") Now, about your fpp... Justice, notorious french electro-house group [previously] recently had their addition to the prestigious FabricLive Series rejected for not entirely clear reasons. (Although the relatively short length, 40-something minutes and taste (lack of?) may have been factors.) As a (late) Christmas present to their fans, Justice decided to give away the mix (!!!) and it is now available for download here. [More inside...] I'm only familiar with a few of the artists in the mix (Fucking Champs! Goblin!), but it's a pretty good time, and is definitely a big, fat middle finger to most of the ~~minimal techno~~ other style mixes Fabric is bets known. Lots of old pop, funk and super-cheesy french music. (Not to mention, Fucking Champs! [YouTube]. Enjoy! ...and that is what I think. [ PS. If you want to know how to do the basic HTML wizardry, just "view source" from your browser, and track it down for yourself. Now, go get yourself a plate of beans and contemplate.] PS. Use Preview.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:33:01 -0800

Hey, humannaire? That was pretty swell of you. Well done.

By: Christ, what an asshole

Christ, what an asshole — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:57:06 -0800

other style mixes Fabric is bets known. Use preview. :)

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:08:01 -0800

Also be aware in your FPP that, in what lands on the front page, some html works and some doesn't. And thanks for that mix... it was a good thing to have on while doing things around the house and with the fambly. I love old material presented in new ways. I look forward to your next FPP!

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:10:00 -0800

Oh, and Christ W.A.A. - you forgot the one we were all weaned on: Sonic Pat.

By: grabbingsand

grabbingsand — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:17:28 -0800

It might be too late into the thread, but it's worth mentioning that the Fabric Podcast is incredibly good, particularly Episode 4 (featuring the eclectic soundtrack and library music finds of Jonny Trunk).

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:25:04 -0800

Yeah, um. So where's the FPP on Goblin, yo.

By: pwedza

pwedza — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:33:30 -0800

Justice is headlining Madison Square Garden on March 11?! I mean, I dig Justice.. to a point, but MSG? I tend to think more of groups like Led Zeppelin for venues like that..

By: blacklite

blacklite — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:00:52 -0800

Wow, that really is a shit mix, but the Fabric Podcast is great. Thanks, grabbingsand.

By: wemayfreeze

wemayfreeze — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:26:01 -0800

Can't forget Be Your Own Pat.

By: Senor Cardgage

Senor Cardgage — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:20:36 -0800

Yeah! To slay the beast of minimalist dance wankery! Had this mix for a few weeks and it is straight up FUN. Hey pretentious DJ assholes? Remember "fun"? You know, fun, back before the lionization of DJ culture made all you stoic cocks pretend to be Serious Artists (the easiest path to that being obscure obtusion—noone will call you out on your wankery if they are even remotely afraid of "not getting it") and shave all the remotely interesting bits out of your music for fear of being too cheezy. Justice (and seemingly the rest of the french dance scene right now) understand that minimalism isnt so much of a style as it is a hiding place for guys without any good ideas. The tide is finally turning back to EVENTFUL dance music and I couldnt be happier.

By: dydecker

dydecker — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:11:28 -0800

By: dydecker

dydecker — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:14:29 -0800

Well, you get what I mean. There is room for all sorts. Saying Justice understand this and that about minimal and this is why they make their music the way they do is just specious stuff. Minimal was never even popular in Paris anyway.

By: dydecker

dydecker — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:27:32 -0800

And like someone said upthread, this mix was for FabricLive, which is for breaks, drum n bass etc, not Fabric, which is for house and techno. I'm really failing to see the connection here.

By: humannaire

humannaire — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:44:57 -0800

The tide is finally turning back to EVENTFUL dance music and I couldnt be happier. I'm with you, Senor! The boogie is landing soon — along with a whole lotta motherships — 'cuz it's wide open, babyboom!!

By: humannaire

humannaire — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:50:12 -0800

Oh, please. Justice has absolutely nothing to do with minimal dance music. There is no battle. There is no tide. There is no competition for audiences. It's not like Richie Hawtin was ever playing MSG. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to say the rise of Justice/Ed Banger has precisely zero to do with electronic 4/4 at all. posted by dydecker at 3:11 AM on January 22 [+] [!] Well, you get what I mean. There is room for all sorts. Saying Justice understand this and that about minimal and this is why they make their music the way they do is just specious stuff. Minimal was never even popular in Paris anyway. posted by dydecker at 3:14 AM on January 22 [+] [!] And like someone said upthread, this mix was for FabricLive, which is for breaks, drum n bass etc, not Fabric, which is for house and techno. I'm really failing to see the connection here. posted by dydecker at 3:27 AM on January 22 [+] [!] SIR NOSE!

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:08:59 -0800

I hear half-arsed stuff like this, and think, 'Thank God for Optimo'.

By: vbfg

vbfg — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:23:34 -0800

A friend of mine has a ton of FabricLive CDs at his place. I always meant to ask him who Clive was but never got round to it. Now, thanks to this thread, I know better. I also got to make myself look like a 2@ in front of a larger audience.