Comments on: Last Call

Last Call

IndigoJones — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:40:58 -0800

With the death of Louis de Cazenave, Lazare Ponticelli is the last surviving French veteran of World War One, and the country has been wondering how to mark the inevitable. By contrast, Germany's response to the recent death of Erich Kaestner has been a more muted affair, indeed, all but unnoted.

Meanwhile, Britain's Henry Allingham and Harry Patch and William Stone just keep on going. (For those interested, more comprehensive international lists can be found here and here)

By: Rumple

Rumple — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:44:48 -0800

From the CBC: "In Germany, such an event doesn't have the same kind of significance as it does in other countries," Bernhard Chiari, a spokesman for the Military Research Institute, told Spiegel Online. Chiari said there's a stigma attached to Germany's track record in the Second World War, and the taint has spread to include the earlier war. "Any form of commemoration of military events is seen as problematic here," Chiari told Spiegel Online. "Our veterans only take part in public ceremonies when they are invited abroad to join commemorative events with veterans from other countries. World War I is seen as part of a historical line that led to World War II. You can't equate the two but there is much debate about it." I wish there was more explicit recognition in the West that World War I was the first Act of World War II, and the western politics leading to, and following from, World War I are in this "historical line" leading to the disasters of the early 1940s. It might lead the west to appreciate the law of unintended consequences. I very much suspect, for example, that history will in de course consider the Gulf War and the Iraq War (with the intervening violent peace and war by proxy embargo) as a tightly linked series of events. Yet in the media, they are treated as essentially distinct events, one a victory, one heading to defeat. Makes no sense. Here is an interview with John Babcock, Canada's last WWI veteran.

By: furtive

furtive — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:49:51 -0800

Je me souviens.

By: Abiezer

Abiezer — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:14:14 -0800

I was interested to see whether any Indian (then pre-Partition) soldiers were still alive, as I know several thousand men from there fought, but none listed at Wikipedia it seems.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:30:21 -0800

Je me souviens. Well, we've got either a centenarian or a québecois on our hands.

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:38:00 -0800

Harry Patch looks damn good for 110. Hell, put him next to me on a "choose an eligible bachelor" panel and I bet I get to spend the night alone.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:15:10 -0800

Dunno what the big deal is. We still have John McCain.

By: IndigoJones

IndigoJones — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:54:08 -0800

(No, he died in 1945. Paul Begala notwithstanding.)

By: fire&wings

fire&wings — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:53:46 -0800

What a desperate moment it is going to be when the last survivor finally goes.

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:28:26 -0800

Soon no one will answer at all.

By: nicolin

nicolin — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:22:45 -0800

Both veterans have put some emphasis on the fact that every soldier involved in WWI deserved as much honor as them. They have refused to have national ceremonies for their burial. Louis de Cazenave was a pacifist.