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January 29, 2008 9:59 PM   Subscribe

Audio gold: David Lee Roth's vocal track from Runnin' With the Devil, without benefit of, you know, music.
posted by shadow vector (74 comments total) 32 users marked this as a favorite

 
This was recently linked to in a comment of a deleted thread, but I had lost it. Thanks for resurrecting it.

Oh, and a little Van Halen from 2007.
posted by boubelium at 10:06 PM on January 29, 2008


Awesome. No one could wail like old split-jumpin' Dave.
posted by gottabefunky at 10:07 PM on January 29, 2008


I never realized how mannered his performances are. It's ridiculous.

Also, he has no skills at semi-improvised verbalization, I say goddamn baby oh yeah.
posted by Astro Zombie at 10:13 PM on January 29, 2008


Between this and the loris, I'm dying here.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 10:13 PM on January 29, 2008 [1 favorite]


Can someone please combine a cappella DLR with THX loris? I don't have the skills, but I can see in my mind the magic that is possible.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 10:16 PM on January 29, 2008


To me high-pitched yelling like that still spells Rock God.
posted by jouke at 10:18 PM on January 29, 2008 [1 favorite]


he may be runnin' with the devil, but he sounds like he's been drinkin' with jack daniels
posted by pyramid termite at 10:24 PM on January 29, 2008 [1 favorite]


MY. MIND. IS. BLOWN.

THANK. YOU. MEGA. FILTER.
posted by piratebowling at 10:24 PM on January 29, 2008 [4 favorites]


That was.... something I'll never forget. I give it about a week before this becomes the new background track for a series of weird YouTube mashups.

Perhaps more interesting was the link to "The CIA", NWA's early rap attempts which really does sound exactly as the link says - a black beastie boys trio. Crazy business.

MY. MIND. IS. BLOWN.
+1
posted by revmitcz at 10:33 PM on January 29, 2008


The timing of this is kind of funny for me, as I just happened to finish Roth's autobiography Crazy From the Heat. He writes on page 113 "But the very finest Van Halen material was performed absolutely live in the studio, all of those first albums"

And again on page 114: "Go back and listen to these songs with that in mind. Most of the vocals were recorded at the same time that the band played the music. I went into a vocal booth and we would look at each other through glass windows, and I would sing the song, directly."

Van Halen was my first concert, shortly after their first album was released. Until Diamond Dave advised everyone in attendance, I had no idea that Missoula Montana was in fact the rock and roll capital of the world...
posted by Tube at 10:46 PM on January 29, 2008


Of further interest on the WFMU page is the link to, "The C.I.A 12" over at BAF in the event that you want to hear sketchy quality recordings of NWA back when they were RUN-DMC-loving high school students."

Indeed.

It's unfortunate that the BAF (stands for it seems "Blog As Fuck") site describes these as, "trill ass recordings," and says, "This shit is so money," but it's still worth a listen none the less.
posted by wfrgms at 10:47 PM on January 29, 2008 [1 favorite]


This is composited and has FX.
posted by damehex at 10:47 PM on January 29, 2008


"Go back and listen to these songs with that in mind. Most of the vocals were recorded at the same time that the band played the music. I went into a vocal booth and we would look at each other through glass windows, and I would sing the song, directly."

Just because the vocal is isolated doesn't mean that Roth wasn't singing with the rest of the band. At one point about half way through you can hear the rest of the audio sort of fade in. I don't doubt that Roth was in a booth on his own, but it isn't inconceivable that the rest of the band was there making music.
posted by wfrgms at 10:50 PM on January 29, 2008


Now I know how I sound to my neighbors at 3 AM, only way less awesome.

Why haven't I been evicted, yet?
posted by dirigibleman at 11:05 PM on January 29, 2008 [4 favorites]


I don't doubt that Roth was in a booth on his own, but it isn't inconceivable that the rest of the band was there making music.

It was the female body builder coming into the booth to help "inspire" him.

"Oh God, I'm running... Woah, yeah-uh!"

Ugh. <--- that one's mine, not his.
posted by sleepy pete at 11:07 PM on January 29, 2008


Woo. Yeaa--aaah. Woo. Woo woo.

(shoots self in head)
posted by Justinian at 11:25 PM on January 29, 2008


Well, he does manage to hit the note more often than I thought he would.

Sorta like the truism that you can't treat lyrics as poetry. When you pull this out of the rest of the audio, it sounds a bit goofy, but it's just one element in the mix. For the market they appealed to, they were not that bad, even Dave. I mean, sure, cheesy as all get out, cock rock extreme, but talented. At least they weren't Poison. But this sort of thing doesn't age too well. What appealed to teenagers in the late '70s and '80s looks very dated now, and Dave's and Eddie's ego and the resulting fallout from such get pretty old pretty fast. Plus, they make all their infighting very public and try to pit the fans against one another. Really petulant stuff. Has Eddie managed to stay sober since rehab? Is he out? Are they really touring as the original band again? I can't bother to keep up, but that managed to make its way in. At least Sammy Hagar was smart enough to put all his eggs in his bar/tequila venture in Mexico, providing him with a permanent venue, even past his prime.
posted by krinklyfig at 12:00 AM on January 30, 2008


I have found the new ring for my cell phone.
posted by chillmost at 12:01 AM on January 30, 2008 [3 favorites]


Have you ever played an instrument and had it change the way you listened to music? I've been playing with Garage Band and vocal tracks and such, and it's refreshing to me that listening to the unadorned DLR track is properly excruciating without the other components. VH were great for what they were. His pitch control is very good, even if his improvising isn't.
Thanks for this link. It's awesome.
posted by asavage at 12:24 AM on January 30, 2008


I love this video
posted by chillmost at 12:24 AM on January 30, 2008


This link's been all over the weblosphereplex lately, and I still haven't listened to it, but I have had Runnin' With The Devil running through my head for days now thanks to all the mentions. My mental DJ is highly suggestible. Next time I've had a few, I will definitely play the song very loud, and the musico-mental foreplay all week will make my brain explode with nostalgic butt-rock joy.

Wooo-oooo yeah! (anticipated applying whiskey to head)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:42 AM on January 30, 2008


The St. Sandersized video.
posted by hellbient at 12:47 AM on January 30, 2008


Bleh.

It doesn't matter a crap how bad a track is if it integrates with the others to form something great. Or even mildly good.*

*please disregard this comment if you want a career in a symphony orchestra.
posted by Wolof at 2:20 AM on January 30, 2008


i do cocaine.
posted by 2or3whiskeysodas at 3:31 AM on January 30, 2008 [3 favorites]


I laughed until I cried.

I have found the new ring for my cell phone.

Same here, except I can picture myself driving off the road when the phone rings.
posted by SteveInMaine at 3:35 AM on January 30, 2008


i've never forgiven him for this.
posted by msconduct at 3:46 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


This is composited and has FX.

It's composited (a lot), but I don't think there aren't any effects (well, probably a little compression on the way in). Dave really does scream like that. He is, as jouke says, a Rock God. The weird echoing in there is probably print-through.
posted by uncleozzy at 4:29 AM on January 30, 2008


You guys! Also, if you play the isolated drum track, it's just pum-pum-pum-pum-pum! For like, five whole minutes! WHAT. IS THE DEAL. WITH THAT??
posted by kittens for breakfast at 4:36 AM on January 30, 2008


DAMN. Just damn. Awesome. Proof - as if we needed more - that DLR was the heart & soul of VH.
posted by davidmsc at 4:49 AM on January 30, 2008


A friend also tells me the multitracks for Killer Queen are also making the rounds. They are allegedly mind-blowing.
posted by uncleozzy at 5:14 AM on January 30, 2008


Sounds Great! In an era before Autotune..
posted by salvomix at 6:14 AM on January 30, 2008


Why just the other day I was thinking about how good fettuccine Alfredo was when I a kid.

Since I didn't have any on hand, I figured that I'd just drink a cup of heavy cream with some pepper in it. I blew chunks all over the kitchen, permanently violating my childhood.

Or something like that. It's too cold today to make metaphors.
posted by unixrat at 6:26 AM on January 30, 2008


Considering that all I can see are images from this post from yesterday while listening to this, I'm feeling slightly nauseated and extremely broken. Thanks.
posted by Cat Pie Hurts at 7:08 AM on January 30, 2008


"...Opie and Anthony are heavy lifters, and they've been in town quite awhile-"

"Do you like them? I mean, do you listen to them?"

"I'm not familiar with-"

"Or are you kinda like boycotting the station?"

"..no no not at all. Frankly if I'm not working morning radio, then five o'clock in the morning is usually when I'm making cab fare for the stripper."

Thank you for sharing, David.
posted by ZachsMind at 7:25 AM on January 30, 2008


I sent this to a friend the other day. His response:

"Oooooh, yeah! Oooo-hooo! Awwwww-yeah! Ah-ha! Whooooo!"

The way this thing consistently inspires people to mime David Lee Roth pleases me just immensely. I want to play this for gradeschoolers and record their reactions.

The St. Sandersized video.

Oh, gorgeous.

A friend also tells me the multitracks for Killer Queen are also making the rounds. They are allegedly mind-blowing.

I certainly hope your friend can locate a link to same at some point.
posted by cortex at 7:59 AM on January 30, 2008


The St. Sandersized video.

Does anyone have a link to the video/audio of Van Halen live (w/o Dave?) where their backup audio track is off by a half key or something? I'd love to find that again.
posted by mrgrimm at 8:03 AM on January 30, 2008


Most of the vocals were recorded at the same time that the band played the music. I went into a vocal booth and we would look at each other through glass windows, and I would sing the song, directly

I'm not sure what was considered so revolutionary about this. Bands have been doing scratch track vocals since the dawn of multi-tracking. If that was the only vocal take they did, then that would be a little surprising (and impressive, the take is not bad at all by itself) but not in any way unusual.
posted by psmealey at 8:09 AM on January 30, 2008


First comment has the goods, mrgrimm.
posted by cortex at 8:09 AM on January 30, 2008


New Ringtone!
posted by BrianBoyko at 8:46 AM on January 30, 2008


I liked the long pauses. I kept thinking it was over and then bam! back with the crazy.

Piratebowling! You stole MegaFilter from me! And no, I don't care if no one believes me.
posted by Hugonaut at 8:53 AM on January 30, 2008


uncleozzy writes "A friend also tells me the multitracks for Killer Queen are also making the rounds. They are allegedly mind-blowing."

Well, yeah, if you're the Beach Boys or Queen, then a cappella vocals of your songs don't sound bad at all. "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is a great example of this, from the Pet Sounds Sessions.
posted by krinklyfig at 8:53 AM on January 30, 2008


mrgrimm, it's here. The first comment of this thread links to yet another post.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 9:03 AM on January 30, 2008


Ow, my eyes. Ow. Ow. Oooh. Ah. Ah.

David Lee Roth was and remains a rock and roll joke.
posted by fourcheesemac at 9:25 AM on January 30, 2008


I very nearly FPPed this, so I should know: you're going to want to hear this caterwaul. That poor, poor woman.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 9:26 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


But boy could Eddie pick that thing.
posted by fourcheesemac at 9:26 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


Check your sources, cortex. Check your goddam sources.
posted by cortex at 9:29 AM on January 30, 2008


Also, I once knew a girl who thought VH's song "Panama" was called "Padded Bra." For years, she thought that.

It would have improved the song, actually.
posted by fourcheesemac at 9:31 AM on January 30, 2008


Dear shmegegge,

No more playing Rock Band with headphones on.

Sincerely,
Yourself
posted by shmegegge at 9:31 AM on January 30, 2008


We have a piece of software where I work that acts as an alert system; whenever there is some sort of customer affecting outage, a little scrolling bar rolls across the top of the screen flashing a warning about the area that is currently down.

I have it disabled, because it comes with an incredibly irritating beep that echoes across the entire floor. And since everyone else is running it, whenever something goes wrong, there is just a chorus of beep .. beep beep... beep .. beep ... beep that bounces around. It can last for minutes and is slowly driving me mad.

Now, I will pull bits of Diamond Dave's fantastic work, and replace the beep, so the next time node 1L takes a header, the rest of the floor will be treated to:

beep .. beep ... Oh Yeah! ... beep beep ... Wahhhaaah

At the very least, I won't be the only one going crazy any more.
posted by quin at 9:40 AM on January 30, 2008 [2 favorites]


Also, I once knew a girl who thought VH's song "Panama" was called "Padded Bra." For years, she thought that... It would have improved the song, actually.

Blasphemy! I never cared all that much for any of the various flavors of VH over the years, but that's a great rock 'n' roll song.
posted by psmealey at 9:54 AM on January 30, 2008


Great find, Ambrosia. I had hear about Linda McCartney's horrendous singing some years ago from a guy that had worked as a roadie for Wings. Despite the claims in the YouTube comments (yeah... I went there), I'm reasonably sure that's the genuine article and not an overdub.
posted by psmealey at 9:57 AM on January 30, 2008


NO AUTHOR FOUND NO BACKLINK FOUND " Great find, Ambrosia. I had hear about Linda McCartney's horrendous singing some years ago from a guy that had worked as a roadie for Wings. Despite the claims in the YouTube comments (yeah... I went there), I'm reasonably sure that's the genuine article and not an overdub."

She wasn't a great singer, but at least she wasn't Heather Mills.
posted by krinklyfig at 10:08 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


Eh ... damn metafilthy.
posted by krinklyfig at 10:08 AM on January 30, 2008


Eh ... damn metafilthy.

Ha!
posted by cortex at 10:18 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


Blasphemy! I never cared all that much for any of the various flavors of VH over the years, but that's a great rock 'n' roll song.
posted by psmealey at 9:54 AM on January 30


The hell you say. It was a blatant ripoff of Deep Purple's "Highway Star," and it had lyrics like:

Ain't nothin' like it, her shiny machine
Got the feel for the wheel, keep the movin' parts clean
Hot shoe, burnin' down the avenue
Got an on-ramp comin' through my bedroom


Just giving you shit. But come on, "Padded Bra?" You have to admit that rocks pretty hard.
posted by fourcheesemac at 10:59 AM on January 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


For your listening pleasure: David Lee Roth, pianist.
posted by EarBucket at 11:51 AM on January 30, 2008


Sounds exactly the way I remember ... but without the music. The amount of leak from his headphones was pretty amazing, but I guess they can clean that up later. I did think it was funny that he actually played his little whistle while laying down vocals.
posted by itchylick at 11:54 AM on January 30, 2008


EarBucket, that actually makes the vocal-only track seem desirable. Now, if someone were to sit down and knock out a nice in-time piano arrangment for Runnin' with the Devil and splice that in, they could push it as a DLR Open Mic Tour solo thing.
posted by cortex at 12:00 PM on January 30, 2008


Again I'm amazed at the amazement all over the net about this, but it's nice to see.

So, I'mma blow your mind with this site. You have to register to get to the real goods, but it's well worth it; this is the largest collection of acapellas lifted from popular songs that I've ever seen, a real treasure trove.
posted by First Post at 12:54 PM on January 30, 2008 [5 favorites]


And, how to make your own, with the original and an instrumental version.

Often there will still be a little bleed from the song (which sounds much like the level of background music in this Roth pella), but usually not enough to interfere with your overall mix.

I'd post an example to MeMu but apparently remixes don't count as music here :P
posted by First Post at 1:00 PM on January 30, 2008 [4 favorites]


Why do we think this is the actual vocal track and not an isolated track done after the fact, which is pretty easy to do nowadays? The level of "bleed" I hear sounds like it's too loud to be from headphones. Just sayin.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:39 PM on January 30, 2008


fourcheesemac, why do you hate christmas? Can't you hear the tape bleed of the fun trick noise maker in the background?
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 7:41 PM on January 30, 2008


The weird echoing in there is probably print-through.

Probably not; though it's an analog recording it's more likely bleed-through from his headphones. This is one of X number of overdubs/takes for the lead vocal track; only the mixdown engineer (Don Landee?) knows for sure.

All that being said, for as much of a dick Dave's known to be to work with, he sounds on the money here.
posted by whozyerdaddy at 9:09 PM on January 30, 2008


DLR love song duets
posted by hellbient at 9:12 PM on January 30, 2008


For your listening pleasure: David Lee Roth, pianist.

NOT PIANIST
posted by davejay at 9:47 PM on January 30, 2008


A friend also tells me the multitracks for Killer Queen are also making the rounds. They are allegedly mind-blowing.

I certainly hope your friend can locate a link to same at some point.
posted by cortex at 9:59 AM on January 30 [+] [!]


*cough*
posted by flod logic at 10:59 PM on January 30, 2008 [2 favorites]


Yeah I hear it. I hear clicking that sounds like Roth snapping too. But all those sounds are in the final mix, just not audible. The isolation algorithms now available to isolate tracks ex post facto are pretty amazing.

It does sound to me like the original master track. I'm just wondering if there's a chance it isn't.

Finally, the debt white rockers owe to James Brown and Little Richard cannot be demonstrated more elegantly than they are in this track. Except LR and JB had a sense of meter.
posted by fourcheesemac at 5:12 AM on January 31, 2008


>>The isolation algorithms now available to isolate tracks ex post facto are pretty amazing

I call BS. Name one. IAAE (I am an audio engineer)
posted by toastchee at 7:19 AM on January 31, 2008


What toastchee said. I am not aware of anything more sophisticated than simple phase-cancelling methods, perhaps combined with a high pass filter of sorts, and this wouldn't render anything nearly as clean as this (i.e., anything else in the centre tends to remain, such as snare, kick, bass, etc.).

If what you're describing has actually been invented please tell me, because it will make me very rich. Until then I call bullshit.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 7:47 AM on January 31, 2008


OK, call bullshit. I've seen forensic blind source separation algorithms do amazing things, but then I am not an audio engineer. They just work for me. I was merely asking if this might be possible here with more than M-S canceling in play.
posted by fourcheesemac at 1:21 PM on January 31, 2008


Wait... that wasn't Janis Joplin?

*ducks*

Nice 1st FPP, too!

posted by not_on_display at 7:56 PM on February 14, 2008


This is the real 100% pure uncut Spicolli.
posted by humannaire at 7:57 PM on February 14, 2008


While everyone here no doubt agrees that DLR is brilliant in 'running with the devil', he unfortunately is overshadowed by Marvin Gaye in this timeless duet.
posted by Capt Jingo at 11:24 AM on February 15, 2008


See, the real reason Roth was such a star was he had the cajones to sing regardless of how bad it sounded in the shower.
posted by bwg at 1:23 AM on February 20, 2008


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