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	<title>Comments on: Cheika Rimitti, Mother of Ra&#0239;</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:41:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Cheika Rimitti, Mother of Ra&#0239;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ</link>	
		<description>Head over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/cheikharemitti&quot;&gt;Cheikha Rimitti&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s MySpace page and listen to the first tune up on her player (starts when you open the page), called &lt;b&gt;Saida&lt;/b&gt;. Whoa! Is that badass or &lt;i&gt;what?&lt;/i&gt; Well, there&apos;s 5 other tunes of hers there for your listening pleasure, covering a wide swath of stylistic territory within the Algerian music tradition she was such an important part of. Yet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/cheikharimitti&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt; MySpace page pays tribute (with 4 more songs!) to this powerful singer, and you can also learn more about her at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cheikha-rimitti.com/&quot;&gt;Cheikha Rimitti&lt;/a&gt; website, which is in French, but with links like &quot;Musique&quot; and &quot;Vid&#0233;os&quot;, you shouldn&apos;t have too much trouble with it. There&apos;s an informative English-language video &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfPABzj-y_A&quot;&gt;biography&lt;/a&gt; of this &quot;Mother of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra&#0239;&quot;&gt;Ra&#0239;&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, not to mention this performance footage (with those fantastic flutes!) of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiu2mgIMkNQ&quot;&gt;Saida&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rurzR_0owfQ&amp;NR=1&quot;&gt;short&lt;/a&gt; YouTube clip.

An &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1t9CBUM6P4&quot;&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; (in French) where Rimitti offers some a cappella snippets.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:16:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>flapjax at midnite</dc:creator>		<category>music</category>		<category>Ra&#xef;</category>		<category>Cheikha</category>		<category>Rimitti</category>		<category>CheikhaRimitti</category>		<category>Algeria</category>		<category>France</category>		<category>Algerianmusic</category>		<category>singer</category>
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		<title>By: dersins</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2002982</link>	
		<description>She&apos;s OK but when the main links in your post are a couple of myspace pages, you might be straying from &quot;best of the Web&quot; territory toward &quot;your own blog&quot;-land.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:41:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seanyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2002998</link>	
		<description>My first thought...

&quot;Woah - Britney&apos;s let herself go.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;And I know, sexist, etc.. I&apos;m gonna burn in hell&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:13:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nicolin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003022</link>	
		<description>Thanks Flapjax, it&apos;s always nice to listen to some good music from Maghreb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:48:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolof</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003045</link>	
		<description>Yet another great music post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:02:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JaredSeth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003075</link>	
		<description>I was about to say she&apos;s no Cheb Khaled, but then I saw she&apos;s written songs for him.

Snark-blocked!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:05:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003134</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was about to say she&apos;s no Cheb Khaled, but then I saw she&apos;s written songs for him.&lt;/i&gt;

Heh heh! Cheb Khaled&apos;s a fine singer (saw him do a sizzling show in Germany about 20 years ago), but for my money he doesn&apos;t have the &lt;i&gt;depth&lt;/i&gt; that this woman has. There&apos;s something very &lt;i&gt;core&lt;/i&gt;, very deep about Rimitti&apos;s voice: she doesn&apos;t &lt;i&gt;soar&lt;/i&gt;, she&apos;s not the greatest technician, not even the most fluid, but she&apos;s got something that, for me, registers on a level of the gut, and the soul.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:21:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fourcheesemac</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003145</link>	
		<description>Rimitte (also spelled Remitti) is a goddess . . .  one of my favorite singers of all time. Thank you! The Billie Holiday of Oran. 

Khaled is a babe in the woods by comparison.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:32:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003156</link>	
		<description>I love ra&#239;&amp;mdash;thanks much for this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:47:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ph00dz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003164</link>	
		<description>This is awesome!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:58:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitizenD</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003271</link>	
		<description>dude.  i most often skip myspace links....but this was incredible.  look at the life evident in her eyes, on her face!  what an incredible pleasure to be introduced to such stunning musich, from a mature performer, thru myspace.  such a change!

thanks, flapjax.  i&apos;m off to learn more about her.

(i wonder if she&apos;s the oldest MS user???  hell, she&apos;s older than my pap!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:42:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003501</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure I would describe it as &lt;em&gt;badass&lt;/em&gt;, unless that term has taken on a drastically different meaning since I last thought about it.  Since I can&apos;t understand the words, I can&apos;t really judge it on it&apos;s lyrical merits.  But the beat is simple, the melody is vaguely eastern and the guitar isn&apos;t really all that earth shattering.  What is the appeal?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:38:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dirtynumbangelboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003548</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s fucking cool to listen to, jeffamaphone, that&apos;s what.  For FUCK&apos;s sake, can&apos;t we get away from Your Favourite _____ Sucks?  Some of us are enjoying this.  Why the need to fucking piss on everyone else, huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:27:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jackbrown</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003687</link>	
		<description>Yeah, the summer of 2006 was a tough one for Algerian music. Rimitti died in May (&apos;her&apos; Myspace page is more  of a tribute page, established a couple of months later)...then &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wondervoice.com/guerouabi/&quot;&gt;Guerouabi&lt;/a&gt;, the living master of Chaabi music, died a couple of months later. I loved Rimitti, but it was Gueroubi that really broke my heart. For a month or so afterwards Guerouabi was all you heard on the streets of Algiers. For the uninitiated, if Rai is the music of Oran/Wahran, Chaabi is the music of the capital. Check a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mouzzika.com/algerie/El-Hachemi-Guerouabi/Guerouabi.php&quot;&gt;couple of songs here&lt;/a&gt;, but beware that Chaabi songs take a while to get rolling...sometimes five minutes or so. But when they do, they&apos;ll steal your heart.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:50:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003895</link>	
		<description>Hey, jackbrown, thanks for that Mouzzika link: what a great site! 

jeffamaphone writes: &lt;i&gt;I&apos;m not sure I would describe it as badass, unless that term has taken on a drastically different meaning since I last thought about it.&lt;/i&gt;

To assume that any qualifier (wonderful, horrible, badass, whatever) would have a fixed and absolute &quot;meaning&quot; is laughable. One man&apos;s &quot;badass&quot; is another man&apos;s &quot;I don&apos;t get it&quot;, as is so clearly demonstrated by your comment. As it happens, I consciously used the term &quot;badass&quot; in this FPP as a descriptor for a female singer (not, you know, Eric Clapton, dude) from a musical tradition that is also generally not described in those terms. But for me, she&apos;s badass. For you she&apos;s not. Fine, no problem.  

But this:

&lt;i&gt;the beat is simple, the melody is vaguely eastern and the guitar isn&apos;t really all that earth shattering.&lt;/i&gt;

That&apos;s just plain ignorant, brother. You should probably go back to your Ted Nugent or whatever!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:12:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zouhair</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2003936</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Ra&#239;#2003075&quot;&gt;JaredSeth&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;I was about to say she&apos;s no Cheb Khaled, but then I saw she&apos;s written songs for him.

Snark-blocked!&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

She created Rai so to speak, so Khaled can kiss her feet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:46:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2004276</link>	
		<description>Relax people.  I was actually curious and hoping someone here would educate me.  I am ignorant of this music, which is why I commented.  I gave my impression after listening to it. 

If nobody here actually wants to enlighten me as to the actual merits of the music, fine.  Feel free to continue making assumptions about what I listen to and my general intellect level.  

I can play that game too: Obviously you are all just a bunch of acid tripping hippies who like to space out listening to repetitive eastern trance crap.  Not a music theorist among you.  Sorry to come in here and bum your trip.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:21:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ph00dz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2004336</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s just like, your opinion, man.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:41:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/68836/Cheika-Rimitti-Mother-of-Raļ#2004401</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sorry to come in here and bum your trip.&lt;/i&gt;

S&apos;okay! You didn&apos;t bum my trip. Takes a lot more than that to bum my trip!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:34:09 -0800</pubDate>
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