Comments on: I'm f*****g Matt Damon

I'm f*****g Matt Damon

barrakuda — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:32:54 -0800

The feud between Jimmy Kimmel and Matt Damon is very Andy Kaufmanesque. Only Andy never dated Sarah Silverman.

By: stupidsexyFlanders

stupidsexyFlanders — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:40:45 -0800

Put down the guitar. Let's go blank stupidsexyflanders.

By: grouse

grouse — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:42:04 -0800

"I'm Jewish but, I wear this Saint Christopher medal sometimes, my boyfriend is Catholic—but you know... it was cute the way he gave it to me. He said if it doesn't burn a hole through my skin it will protect me."

By: stinkycheese

stinkycheese — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:47:03 -0800

*pukes* Damn, will I ever be happy when this whole 'fight racism by saying really racist things' meme finally dies.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:48:31 -0800

five minutes of SARA SILVERMAN RUNS ANOTHER JOKE INTO THE GODDAMN GROUND, huh? Looks like Kaufman made out ahead of Kimmel and Damon both.

By: uaudio

uaudio — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:49:11 -0800

I respectfully disagree with your comparison.

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:49:56 -0800

I can't wait to see this when I go home. I'm going to get nice and settled in before I watch this. With a pair of binoculars, and a good set of unidirectional mics, I can also check in on my neighbors!

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:50:50 -0800

Maaaatt Daaaamon.

By: Skorgu

Skorgu — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:50:54 -0800

Can't stand Silverman myself but I actually found this funny. Mostly because of Damon's bemusement throughout the whole thing.

By: infinitewindow

infinitewindow — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:53:43 -0800

I thought the sign language part was hi-larious. Also Silverman's giddy "I can't believe it OMG!" expression at the beginning.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:54:27 -0800

Bleh, I hate Jimmy Kimmel. Mostly because he's dating Sara Silverman.

By: mrnutty

mrnutty — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:56:52 -0800

I agree with infinitewindow and delmoi.

By: indiebass

indiebass — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:57:29 -0800

Hello! And welcome to last week! =D Triple Youtube FPP FTW!

By: mrnutty

mrnutty — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:01:33 -0800

I can't find the previous post(s) - do you have links?

By: P.o.B.

P.o.B. — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:12:31 -0800

Liked it! Thanks!

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:16:04 -0800

Wouldn't she be pegging Matt Damon?

By: Jay Reimenschneider

Jay Reimenschneider — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:18:26 -0800

"I'm a female comedian, so I have to wear ugly unfeminine red shoes and mannish clothes."

By: flatluigi

flatluigi — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:20:33 -0800

Cute song and video, though I still can't stand the woman.

By: barrakuda

barrakuda — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:24:15 -0800

i didn't realize that people had such strong negative feelings about Sarah Silverman, i haven't really seen her in anything besides the above.

By: roomthreeseventeen

roomthreeseventeen — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:11 -0800

Hate Sarah Silverman. Love Matt Damon.

By: The Deej

The Deej — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:21 -0800

i didn't realize that people had such strong negative feelings about Sarah Silverman posted by barrakuda Forget it, Jake. It's MetaFilter.

By: gurple

gurple — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0800

Sarah Silverman was the funniest single thing about the movie The Aristocrats. I generally like her standup OK. Her show is atrocious.

By: Artw

Artw — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:31:28 -0800

It's weird, all you have to do is mention her and they all come out of the woodwork with their fun-sapping yuckishness. There are things that actually do suck and that you should always comment on the suckiness of should someone mention them even in passing, such as Ron Paul and Second Life. Sarah Silverman is most definately not one of them.

By: Artw

Artw — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:32:00 -0800

Also: Texas. Fuck those guys and their anti-litering slogan.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:33:54 -0800

I "get" what Sarah Silverman's comedy is about, and what it's for, and loved her in, say The Aristocrats. However, I find it unsettling that she can't acknowledge or articulate the political bent of her identity-based anti-PC humor when asked in interview, or doesn't choose to do so. I think there's a lot to analyze about her, wrt to performance of sexuality. I think she's a polarizing figure for some in part because of her relative attractiveness as a female comedian. And seriously, Jimmy Kimmel? That must be some kinda magic cock.

By: COBRA!

COBRA! — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:36:19 -0800

And seriously, Jimmy Kimmel? That must be some kinda magic cock. Word on the street is that he ejaculates pure heroin. what have I become?

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:42:38 -0800

Metafilter: Jimmy Kimmel? That must be some kinda magic cock.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:43:45 -0800

I want to marry Matt Damon. And then we will take turns punching Jimmy Kimmel in the face. "See this, motherfucker? THIS IS COMEDY GOLD!" *bam* "You're not fucking funny!" *crunch* - fin -

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:44:52 -0800

Metafilter: what have I become?

By: misha

misha — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:46:47 -0800

I love Matt Damon. If Sarah Silverman stays with Jimmy Kimmel, I'm so totally....nevermind. That joke's just too easy.

By: spiderwire

spiderwire — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:50:03 -0800

Jimmy Kimmel? That must be some kinda magic cock. He has a pamphlet!

By: indiebass

indiebass — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:51:51 -0800

mrnutty: if you were referring to my comment, I was simply pointing out that this FPP contains three youtube links (not that this was the third time it was posted) and that a handful of people had e-mailed me that clip at least a week ago. My criticism was more on the timeliness of it, and its inclusion in "Best of the Web". That being said: I do love Sarah Silverman, and anyone who doesn't fall in love with her after watching Jesus is Magic lacks a heart. Or sophisticated sense of humor.

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:56:42 -0800

Or sophisticated sense of humor. Yeah, when she stuck the microphone in her ass? What a sophisticate!

By: xmutex

xmutex — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:02:12 -0800

How is it like Andy Kaufman? Damon blew up, Kimmel chased after him all trying to make things good. You think Andy Kaufman does something like either one of them?

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:07:08 -0800

This reminds me of that one time someone said they really liked a comedy (I can't remember if it was a movie or a tv show or someone's standup or what) and as they were talking I realized that the single most important thing I could say at that moment, possibly the most important thing I could say in my entire life, was that what they thought was funny actually sucked.

By: juv3nal

juv3nal — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:08:01 -0800

Word on the street is that he ejaculates pure heroin. Jimmy Kimmel is a mugwump?

By: Item

Item — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:08:06 -0800

Could we get a restart on the countdown clock, please?

By: desuetude

desuetude — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:09:10 -0800

I think Jimmy Kimmel is a lame asshole. And Sarah Silverman's jokes are always at least a minute too long, which inevitably turns my initial reaction of "hahaha!" into "funny, but..." That said, I totally loved her and Matt Damon in that video and laughed my ass off, then forwarded it to ten friends like i wuz new to the emailz. dirtynumbangelboy, I will jump up and down like a girl with glee while you and your husband Matt punch Jimmy Kimmel in the face. I don't think the Jimmy Kimmel/Matt Damon thing is Kaufmanesque though. What's that about? Also, yeah, I saw this last week.

By: ssg

ssg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:09:36 -0800

Ambrosia: However, I find it unsettling that she can't acknowledge or articulate the political bent of her identity-based anti-PC humor when asked in interview, or doesn't choose to do so. I think there's a lot to analyze about her, wrt to performance of sexuality. I think what a lot of people find unsettling about her is that she doesn't step out of her character: she plays a slightly toned down version for interviews, but she is still playing the same character as she does on her show or in her stand up. Since people don't have much to go on aside from the performance, they seem to end up taking polarized positions. I agree that there is some serious grad student fodder on the sexuality front though.

By: tula

tula — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:11:33 -0800

Loved this, and what's with all the crankiness? Sarah Silverman is wildy uneven, but can be hilarious. And this Damon/Kimmel bit is Kaufmanesque--though much milder. Silverman and Sacha Cohen are similar in that their humor hinges on political incorrectness in the persona of a completely clueless (and therefore less malicious and more ridiculous) character. Silverman never really breaks character, but I don't for one minute believe that her comedy expresses her actual beliefs about race or class or whatever. Sacha Cohen breaks character for interviews, so we're reassured that Borat or Ali G are acts. Andy Kaufman, who everyone considers such a genius, never, ever broke character to my knowledge, never went for laughs, and did often did characters who weren't clueless but downright mean, bigoted and really aggressive. He really did performance art more than comedy, especially the wrestling stuff. Very hard to watch, very unsettling.

By: CitizenD

CitizenD — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:15:24 -0800

I agree that there is some serious grad student fodder on the sexuality front though. HEY! whaddaya mean by that, bub? i resemble that remark. LOVE damon, tolerate silverman/kimmel, laughed ass off last week at video

By: CitizenD

CitizenD — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:16:47 -0800

(the whole thing WOULD be better if lattke (sp) was floating in the backround, cherubim-style, playing panflute to make zamfir weep)

By: InnocentBystander

InnocentBystander — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:17:50 -0800

We are who we pretend to be, so we must be careful who we pretend to be.

By: drjimmy11

drjimmy11 — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:20:59 -0800

____________________ | shark | _______________________ Sarah Silverman

By: George_Spiggott

George_Spiggott — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:24:36 -0800

How is it like Andy Kaufman? Uh, in that none of it is real? Damon blew up, Kimmel chased after him all trying to make things good. Heh You think Andy Kaufman does something like either one of them? Actually Andy Kaufman doesn't do much besides lay there. Though come to that, it's possible there's a resemblance to Ms Silverman that I woudn't know about.

By: tula

tula — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:25:30 -0800

How is it like Andy Kaufman? Seriously? Did you watch the Letterman clip? Do you remember that most of Kaufman's schtick (not the taxi stuff) was screaming at people feigning anger and especially feuds just like the Kimmel's disses/Damon yelling in the clip. That's how.

By: ssg

ssg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:26:07 -0800

CitizenD: At least I didn't say fodder for grad student wankery.

By: joseph_elmhurst

joseph_elmhurst — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:28:13 -0800

Sarah Silverman won me over during her interview on Fresh Air. Terry Gross asked her about the frequent use of the word "vagina" on The Sarah Silverman Program, Silverman replied that it was like the mouse in Goodnight Moon - you can find it on every page.

By: krisjohn

krisjohn — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:36:31 -0800

I mostly know Sarah Silverman from Greg the Bunny, so I'm a fan. Her skit stuff does tend to go on a bit though.

By: tula

tula — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:41:55 -0800

We are who we pretend to be, so we must be careful who we pretend to be. Yeeesh, where's the fun in that? It's called satire, or farce, or even acting. Think Moliere. Or Monty Python. The point of much of this comedy is to point out to us the absurdity of the characters. Playing a hothead or a pig-headed bigot doesn't make an indelible stain on your soul.

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:47:45 -0800

Who's Jimmy Kimmel? Wasn't Silverman in the later series of the Larry Sander's Show? Who's Jason Bourne?

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:50:54 -0800

That's right, Jason Bourne is a fictional character who doesn't actually exist that is played by Matt Damon, where as the other two don't actually exist.

By: Bookhouse

Bookhouse — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:51:11 -0800

We are who we pretend to be, so we must be careful who we pretend to be. I'm Batman!

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:52:08 -0800

Woah - I think I've had too much wine. It sort of made sense to me. Nevermind.

By: spiderwire

spiderwire — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:53:40 -0800

Damon blew up, Kimmel chased after him all trying to make things good. If it was real, Damon would have walked out on stage, waved at the crowd, pointed to his watch and shrugged like, "Sorry, Jimmy used up all my time and now I have to go," and walked out the door. He wouldn't have sat down and just waited for Jimmy to deliver the punchline.

By: Penks

Penks — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:55:39 -0800

Two more videos of this feud.

By: Bookhouse

Bookhouse — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:58 -0800

Small piece of Matt Damon trivia -- this is the second time that a fictional Matt Damon infidelity has been revealed to the cuckolded party through a catchy song.

By: Tenuki

Tenuki — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:02:19 -0800

"Jimmy Doesn't Know"

By: jeff-o-matic

jeff-o-matic — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:04:51 -0800

Well, I watched it and didn't think it was very funny. I used to work in that hotel. It's the Delano in Miami Beach. Most of it is shot in Penthouse 3, but also in the lobby and the Rose Bar. The pool they splash in is the Delano's as well. Probably no one cares, but then again I watched the whole unfunny thing, so I feel like I have the right to make a comment.

By: Effigy2000

Effigy2000 — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:06:30 -0800

No, I'm Batman.

By: god hates math

god hates math — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:07:49 -0800

____________________ | shark | _______________________ The Phrase "Jumped the Shark."

By: Sys Rq

Sys Rq — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:15:19 -0800

Colbert/O'Brien/Stewart was more satisfying, but maybe that was just the faint whiff of collusion. Matt Damon is the Steve Guttenberg of his generation.

By: cgc373

cgc373 — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:16:06 -0800

It's only the second time we know about, Bookhouse. Matt Damon could have pretended to be dozens or hundreds of different people and recorded songs about every crazed infidelity he's ever perpetrated as a serial pop-song Lothario, for all we know.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:16:50 -0800

God, think of all the people who are Spartacus.

By: Floydd

Floydd — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:19:12 -0800

If Andy Kaufman was alive today he'd roll over in his grave.

By: mrnutty

mrnutty — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:23:40 -0800

What do you mean if Andy Kaufman was alive?

By: BitterOldPunk

BitterOldPunk — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:25:05 -0800

You know who else wasn't funny? That's right, Andy fucking Kaufman.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:25:29 -0800

I don't think Matt Damon blew up. To me it looks like the whole thing was staged. Also, the Delano is gorgeous. Sent some clients there recently... I really, really want to go.

By: turaho

turaho — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0800

It's kind of sad that people only think of Andy Kaufman as "the guy who pretended to have feuds with people" when he did so many other wonderfully strange and subversive things. Andy was a master at tweaking expectations. Kimmel is just pretending he hates Matt Damon.

By: Bookhouse

Bookhouse — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:29:29 -0800

Matt Damon could have pretended to be dozens or hundreds of different people and recorded songs about every crazed infidelity he's ever perpetrated as a serial pop-song Lothario, for all we know. Matt Damon?

By: lumpenprole

lumpenprole — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:29:37 -0800

five minutes of SARA SILVERMAN RUNS ANOTHER JOKE INTO THE GODDAMN GROUND, huh? Looks like Kaufman made out ahead of Kimmel and Damon both. Seriously? You think Kaufman never ran a joke into the ground? Wait, you don't what the f you're talking about do you? Anyway, great post, laughed my ass off.

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:33:40 -0800

Yeeesh, where's the fun in that? It's called satire, or farce, or even acting. Think Moliere. Or Monty Python. The point of much of this comedy is to point out to us the absurdity of the characters. Playing a hothead or a pig-headed bigot doesn't make an indelible stain on your soul. Oh, I don't know about that... With his "Diceman" persona, Andrew Dice Clay was not only an immense success, but he was also surrounded by heaps of controversy regarding his views and jokes about women and immigrants ("If you can't speak the language, get the f*ck out of the country"). Expected to respond to some of the criticism thrown his way, Diceman instead broke down and cried when Arsenio Hall questioned him.Considering Clay's image, and Arsenio's habit of ass-kissing, softie questioning, this was extremely humiliating. Career Impact: This breakdown made a serious dent in the tough guy persona he tried so hard to create. Shortly thereafter, Clay tried to clean up his act on the squeaky clean CBS series Bless This House , which lasted all of five months. Since then, he's co-starred in One Night at McCool's and resurrected the Diceman act, appearing regularly in Las Vegas. Memorable Quote: "Whenever somebody is on top, they try to bring him down." And more recently (language NSFW)

By: lumpenprole

lumpenprole — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:39:27 -0800

You know that's an interesting comparison between Dice and Silverman. I think the salient difference is that I've yet to meet a single person who would agree with the things that Silverman says/or thought that she did. The sticking point with Dice was that his fans agreed with him about blacks, immigrants, women, etc....

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:54:03 -0800

I think the salient difference is that I've yet to meet a single person who would agree with the things that Silverman says/or thought that she did. Well, it's a tough one for me, because -- although I think Silverman can be funny (hell, I thought that Dice could sometimes be funny!) -- I do wonder how much of her audience is made up of people who do kinda agree with some of the things she's said. Dice said stuff you might hear in a bar (he certainly said stuff I'm sure a lot of people heard in bars afterward), but it seems to me Silverman's act plays off things white middle and upper class people might think. The joke is that her character is too naive to realize she's saying things that no sane person would. People laugh because they're shocked, but what's the source of the shock? Is it just that they can't believe what's coming out of this delicate little flower's mouth, or is there something more to it? It kinda makes me think of Dave Chappelle's feeling that white people were laughing just a little too hard at his use of the n-word, etc. But on the other hand, that line of thinking took away a pretty great comic, so I dunno. Critical analysis and comedy tend not to make real terrific bedfellows.

By: msalt

msalt — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:55:55 -0800

Being a pretty comedienne is famously difficult. Silverman, who is movie star gorgeous if yr askin me, has done as well as anybody. I sense that it has something about her persona being unlikeable anyway, but I'm still trying to figure out how she's finessing that problem.

By: stinkycheese

stinkycheese — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:01:44 -0800

Whether or not I meant it, the words were being said, and given power.

By: texorama

texorama — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:09:55 -0800

FWIW, I think the intermittent flashes of brilliance from Sarah Silverman (like this video, and the piece in The Aristocrats) are worth the dull stretches of potty-mouth boredom.

By: ssg

ssg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:24:46 -0800

kittens: Silverman's act plays off things white middle and upper class people might think Isn't the joke that she is saying things (in an exaggerated form) that are, at least in some small way, part of white middle class culture? Isn't the shock generated by the realization that she is saying things that some "sane" people might actually say (or at least think)?

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:37:48 -0800

Isn't the joke that she is saying things (in an exaggerated form) that are, at least in some small way, part of white middle class culture? Isn't the shock generated by the realization that she is saying things that some "sane" people might actually say (or at least think)? That's kind of the crux of it...are people laughing with her or at her? And if they're laughing at her, are they laughing at the attitudes or at the clumsy (too obviously racist, etc.) way of expressing them? This is all starts to get kinda meta, but what it comes down to for me is that I start to get uncomfortable watching people laugh at "chink" jokes and whatnot. I don't consider that a personal failing, and I do wonder what other people get out of it. YMMV.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:54:23 -0800

I don't generally like Matt Damon much, but Kevin Smith and Martin Scorsese seem to like him, so he must be good for something.

By: Cranky Media Guy

Cranky Media Guy — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:09:39 -0800

"Andy Kaufman, who everyone considers such a genius, never, ever broke character to my knowledge, never went for laughs, and did often did characters who weren't clueless but downright mean, bigoted and really aggressive." Andy was a friend of mine in the later years of his life. I have to disagree with the idea that this "feud" between Kimmel and Damon is Andy-like. NO ONE thinks that the feud is real, nor do I think that you are expected to think it's real. Andy's entire purpose was to make you question the reality of what he was doing. Part of his downfall, in fact, may have been that he was very good at that, causing people, even some in the "business," that he was out of control, which I can assure you he was not. Andy knew exactly what he was doing and could be very articulate about it with people he trusted. Everyone is entitled, of course, to their opinion as to whether Andy was funny or not.

By: oncogenesis

oncogenesis — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:22:41 -0800

NO ONE thinks that the feud is real, nor do I think that you are expected to think it's real. Go back and read some of the comments on that first YouTube link. Heck, go upthread and read some of the comments from Mefi's own cluetards. Then weep. Weep hard and long for humantity.

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:24:39 -0800

kittens for breakfast writes "I do wonder how much of her audience is made up of people who do kinda agree with some of the things she's said." She's really too surreal to be liked by people who don't get her. She's deliberately off-putting, not just playing to racist and sexist stereotypes, but also putting up a mirror to all sorts of sordid thoughts that pass through so many people's heads. If she were a one-trick pony, just playing off the fact she's Jewish, for instance, then it might play to the wrong people a bit too well. But as it is, I don't think so. The one Jewish joke I remember distinctly from her show was the "full frontal Jewdity" line, which I don't think is really playing to a racist audience at all, just because it's a goofy pun. And I don't think the characters in the show - her stoner neighbors, the stupid cop and her co-dependent sister - would really appeal to a racist audience, but what do I know?

By: Sys Rq

Sys Rq — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:25:58 -0800

Isn't the shock generated by the realization that she is saying things that some "sane" people might actually say (or at least think)? Well, sort of. The laughs come from impeccable timing and the ironic (and I mean that in the true sense, as opposed to the lame t-shirt sense) delivery. If her act reflects the white middle class, it's the part of the white middle class that outwardly abhors racism yet clutches its purse tightly while walking past a black man, that would never knowingly offend anyone, but inadvertently does it all the time. She's a lot like that boss guy from The Office (or vice-versa).

By: bwg

bwg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:27:20 -0800

Matt Damon is the Steve Guttenberg of his generation. Who makes ~~Steve Guttenberg~~ Matt Damon a star? WE do! WE Do!

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:29:26 -0800

She's really too surreal to be liked by people who don't get her. Oh, good grief.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:47:22 -0800

And I don't think the characters in the show - her stoner neighbors, the stupid cop and her co-dependent sister - would really appeal to a racist audience, but what do I know? huh?

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:48:29 -0800

lumpenprole, I get what you're saying. But I think you misunderstand me -- I think Kaufman's better off dead that having to deal with Silverman and on some level -- a big 50,000 foot level, they're similar. Sure. But she drives The Joke Bus wherever she goes. BEEP BEEP hey here comes a joke here's a big leadup BEEP BEEP Joke Bus coming through BEEP BEEP and the joke always turns out to be not worthy of the leadup. I never got that from Kaufman, and I still find him funny. As someone else said, she was funny in the Aristocrats, but I've never laughed at her show. Maybe it's gotten funnier since the first season.

By: KingoftheWhales

KingoftheWhales — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:50:02 -0800

David Letterman is a dick.

By: abakua

abakua — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:54:35 -0800

Silverman is a feral Yid from the Pale of Unsettlement. She's killing dim goys, using their blood to write her jokes.

By: jessamyn

jessamyn — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:05:30 -0800

Could we get a restart on the countdown clock, please? March 7th.

By: Adam_S

Adam_S — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:33:15 -0800

Maybe it's gotten funnier since the first season. I do think it's improved. The Taboo Topics Checklist she generally tends to follow is so prominently on display in the second season it's a joke in itself. Like the way she simply said "midgets" to introduce the next topic during Jesus is Magic. Her real skill to me is her ability to combine subtlety and an appalling lack of subtlety in the same joke. The sincere delivery is so authentic she could probably fool a room into thinking her character was real. You know, if she took out the racial slurs.

By: wsg

wsg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:54:58 -0800

I've been a fan of Silverman's since I saw her years ago in what had to be one of her earliest TV appearance. She said "You know, if you ever take a shower with your boyfriend your boobs will get really clean." Furthermore, Kaufman was a genius, so there.

By: quin

quin — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:57:15 -0800

"Jimmy Doesn't Know" Damn it! I wanted to say this. Sarah Silverman has moments of cleverness, but I can definitely see how her humor could wear thin pretty quickly. Matt Damon has consistently proven to be a skilled actor with a good sense of humor. I'm actually pretty surprised that he can generate such animosity, as he always has seemed to be a pretty good guy in all the interviews I've seen and personal anecdotes I've heard.

By: Turtles all the way down

Turtles all the way down — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:21:37 -0800

Andy was a friend of mine in the later years of his life...Andy knew exactly what he was doing and could be very articulate about it with people he trusted. Everyone is entitled, of course, to their opinion as to whether Andy was funny or not. Wow, Cranky Media Guy, thanks for this insight. I'm struck, watching the Letterman clip, that he managed to puncture the veneer of primetime TV that we normally assume to be inviolable. Letterman appeared to be genuinely anxious about the course events were taking. Lawler--who knows? Was he in on the joke? And the wrestling scenes in the south I've scene elsewhere... Like him or hate him, TV imposes a bland, planned, stupid pseudo-reality on its viewers. It's uncomfortable but invigorating to see an individual march up and twist its nose. Tom Green is the only other performer I can think of that can put me in that uncomfortable, questioning place while watching the boob tube.

By: Turtles all the way down

Turtles all the way down — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:23:14 -0800

scene/seen--aargh!...whatever. I'm going to bed now.

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:36:05 -0800

boo_radley writes "But she drives The Joke Bus wherever she goes." It would be fantastic, I think, if someone asked what you do for a living, and you could say, "I drive The Joke Bus wherever I go."

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:37:28 -0800

Thanks for the link. I really enjoyed this.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:33:01 -0800

Texas. Fuck those guys and their anti-litering slogan. "Everything's bigger in Texas... unless you use metric." "Go gallons or go home." "Remember the Decabet!"

By: graventy

graventy — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:33:25 -0800

Man, "Scottie Doesn't Know" was pretty much the only funny joke in the entire movie. Thanks, Matt Damon.

By: wsg

wsg — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:39:24 -0800

Turtles all the way down: "Was he in on the joke?" He was. Kaufman and Lawler's famous feud and wrestling matches were later revealed to have been staged, or a "work," as the two were actually friends. The truth about it being a work was kept secret for more than 10 years...

By: loiseau

loiseau — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:45:06 -0800

It really chafes when people insist that not finding something funny = not getting it. I found it only momentarily funny. I get it, it's just not that hilarious to me. I think I chuckled. I like her alright. I've LOLed to her comedy. I liked some moments from her show and most of Jesus Is Magic. But I dunno... I find a lot of her stuff mediocre, and I wish she was willing to divulge her actual stance on things as a real person (though I understand never breaking character is part of her character, and part of her success I'm sure.) Far more interesting to me is the whole realm of anti-PC humour and aesthetic. In my mind Silverman is part of it, as is Vice Magazine. Is there any thoughtful discourse on that? Because some of it I get and appreciate and some of it just makes me queasy.

By: Ritchie

Ritchie — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:05:35 -0800

I found the song to be hilarious, but why were they censoring the word 'fuck'? Is that part of the joke, or is Jimmy Kimmel shown at 4 in the afternoon?

By: Tenuki

Tenuki — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:26:11 -0800

Welcome to American broadcast network television. Without the bleeps that song could potentially cost the network $8,775,000 in FCC indecency fines. $325,000 per fuck.

By: grouse

grouse — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:26:56 -0800

Ritchie: it's one of the seven dirty words.

By: Ritchie

Ritchie — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:52:51 -0800

America really is an amazing place, in many ways.

By: DenOfSizer

DenOfSizer — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:20:25 -0800

I laughed harder (which is to say inwardly chuckled) more at the vid than the commentary here on the blue, so it's Silverman 1 Mefi 0 in my book.

By: Mastercheddaar

Mastercheddaar — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:18:24 -0800

I turned off the sound and looked at Sarah.... There I said it, she is hot! Side note does anyone remember from Team America.... MATT DAMON

By: wobh

wobh — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:44:42 -0800

I thought Kimmel-Damon was funnier than Silverman-Damon. The best part of Kimmel-Damon for me was Damon cussing Kimmel out during the credits. The best part of Silverman-Damon for me is the introduction, before even the joke is even revealed. (Something about anticipation and follow-through here).

By: bitter-girl.com

bitter-girl.com — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:26:04 -0800

I like Sarah Silverman and thought the video was hilarious. Though so many people like to make fun of Matt Damon, I think he's a good actor and a good sport (plus -- off topic -- I've got a total thing for the full-on Boston accent and therefore Good Will Hunting is pretty much porno for yours truly). As for Silverman, it's true -- many of her jokes are funny just because they're over the top from a PC perspective all while reflecting what the white, middle class audience might be actually thinking. I think the Chappelle comparisons are appropriate there. But man -- how can you not love someone whose show featured D&D dorks saving a Planned Parenthood clinic wearing Viking helmets? (this season, on Sarah Silverman's Comedy Central show). Or stoner metal dudes whose iPods hold nothing but the song "Two Princes" by the Spin Doctors? Come on! That's absurdly amusing.

By: jaronson

jaronson — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:44:27 -0800

*pop* I don't like it when people pop into a thread only to say how much they dislike something. I would also like to say that, in my oh, so humble, opinion, Sarah Silverman is one of the most entertaining comedian-types who are also female. (Amy Sedaris and Maria Bamford also top that list....of mine.) I should also point out that I only brought up the gender thing because I was reminded of a recent MetaFilter thread about Christopher Hitchins claiming that women are not funny.

By: Artw

Artw — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:58:31 -0800

I would add Christopher Hitchins to the list of things that it's perfectly okay to post long diatribes about should someone so much as mention them in passing. The fat fuck.

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:27:56 -0800

I like her stand up. And Jesus is Magic had some brilliant, if uneven, moments. Over all I really liked it. But the TV show is spotty and best when she is on screen in her persona less. On that show her "LOOK! I AM BEING CUTE AND SAYING OUTRAGEOUS THINGS" is cloying and contrived. And frankly there are times I just want to kick her in the stomach. She's best when she pulls back from that bullshit. (If you notice most her movie rolls she's type-cast as the serious bitchy JAP. I'm thinking that wasn't an accident.) Silverman's shtick has about five more years. As a forty year old woman the cutsie act with the tight retro t-shirted alternajew dorm-girl doing the "WINK WINK" sing-song thing is going to simply be sad and pathetic. Nobody will want it. This carefully honed gimmick persona is going to backfire and unless she changes up soon most of us will be asking what was so funny about her in five years. Anyway. A little Silverman goes a LOOOOONG way.

By: Tenuki

Tenuki — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:00:21 -0800

Jimmy Kimmel, now He's fucking Ben Affleck