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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 6906</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:50:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 6906</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.the5k.org/"&gt;The 5k entries are now viewable&lt;/a&gt; ...and boy are some of them amazing! 5k chess games, 5k pornography, 5k mandelbrot sets, even a bunch of 5k Flash movies...fantastic. Leave last year&apos;s entries in the dust. (a MetaFilter password works for login.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:58:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aniretac</dc:creator>		<category>websites</category>		<category>webdesign</category>		<category>5k</category>
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		<title>By: aniretac</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67377</link>	
		<description>This one in particular made me laugh: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=321&quot;&gt;stin5kymeat&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:50:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67380</link>	
		<description>Would it be against the spirit of the contest to link to our favorites before they&apos;re officially voted on?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>waxpancake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: silusGROK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67392</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve rated quite a few... shame how many crash my Mac IE5.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:30:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>silusGROK</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iceberg273</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67393</link>	
		<description>(Ruefully) And I had such plans for this afternoon . . .
(Happily) Oh, well.  
&lt;br&gt;There are some really addictive entries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:36:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darkpony</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67397</link>	
		<description>hey wax... I know yer fav, its the neural net? pretty cool, isn&apos;t it?

	dP</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:48:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>darkpony</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sylloge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67406</link>	
		<description>Waxy, I think link away. We don&apos;t want to bias the judges, but people are going to link and the judges all have internet access. But, luckily, they also all have their own opinions. I&apos;m pretty sure it is not going to mess up the judging (which should begin in about 10 days).

However, it is easy to miss some of the entries and overlook good ones, so lists help.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:00:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sylloge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: snarkout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67409</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t wait to see the entries doing craziness in SVG next year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:06:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>snarkout</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67410</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hard to see many of them with anything but IE 5.x for Windows. Very frustrating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:09:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67431</link>	
		<description>I think the 5k server is getting pounded.  It&apos;s slow as molasses.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:26:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>waxpancake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: camworld</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67435</link>	
		<description>Perhaps the judges should take the pervasive accessibilty of some of these entries into consideration when judging them. Requiring a technology or specific browser to view a content entry should count against the entry, no matter how cool it may be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:59:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>camworld</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67436</link>	
		<description>Ironic that the 5k site is sending out so much data it&apos;s barely surfable right now. :)

Lucky for the hosts it&apos;s not a 5mb contest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:06:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: snarkout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67438</link>	
		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Perhaps the judges should take the pervasive accessibilty of some of these entries into consideration when judging them. Requiring a technology or specific browser to view a content entry should count against the entry, no matter how cool it may be.&lt;/cite&gt;

I suspect that at least one of the judges will probably check out the site using a non-IE5/Win browser, be it Opera, iCab, Mozilla, or IE5/Mac. Getting a 1 when your site crashes in Opera will definitely knock down your total score.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:09:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>snarkout</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67441</link>	
		<description>I haven&apos;t seen even half of them yet, but I&apos;m really impressed with Darkpony&apos;s &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=447&quot;&gt;Java dungeon game&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=456&quot;&gt;PGP in 5k&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=365&quot;&gt;Timepiece&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=423&quot;&gt;Chess&lt;/A&gt;, and &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=523&quot;&gt;3d Javascript&lt;/A&gt;.  Mind-blowing stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:19:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>waxpancake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67442</link>	
		<description>I have a feeling it&apos;s not so much the content (which is small), but the database activity on the backend of the site as people view, list, and rate entries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:20:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>waxpancake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67443</link>	
		<description>And Darkpony&apos;s entry was Flash, not Java.  I was a little mixed up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:21:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>waxpancake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tomorama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67448</link>	
		<description>Non-accessability counting against you? Could one claim immunity under the 1st law of Zeldman? 

&quot;Thy browser doth suck&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:42:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fooljay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67449</link>	
		<description>Anyone have a clue about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=465&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:44:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67454</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.zeldman.com/nuface.gif&quot;&gt;Zeldman&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:56:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sylloge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67495</link>	
		<description>And speaking of Zeldman, check this game: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/description.asp/entry_id=391&quot;&gt;Legend of Zeldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Cam: the judges are not given very specific directions, which is intentional, because I want to simulate something like the risks and rewards of the real web &#8212; entrants don&apos;t know what the judges will be using (I think at least three are on Macs and sure that on is one Linux: not bad out of 8 judges). So if it doens&apos;t work for a judge, that entry is not going to be graded well.

But I didn&apos;t want the 5k to be a standards/accesibility/cross platform competition &lt;i&gt;as part of the rules&lt;/i&gt;. There are already constraints enough and the point is to explore, promote and reward creativity. Sometimes that may come at the expense of more utilitarian concerns.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:17:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sylloge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jpoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67574</link>	
		<description>I understand the importance of having a browser that meets CSS standards, etc., but Netscape 4.7 is a &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; more stable and reliable (basically, &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt;) than 6.0. I shouldn&apos;t have to trade &quot;up&quot; to a lousy Netscape, or switch to IE to view a site (especially a site that is striving to &lt;i&gt;simplify&lt;/i&gt; the web). And what about the MAC and Linux people?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:56:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jpoulos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sylloge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67575</link>	
		<description>Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the5k.org/random.asp&quot;&gt;get a random entry that you have not yet rated&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:57:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sylloge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6906/#67962</link>	
		<description>jpoulos: Hence ALA/WaSP&apos;s campaign &lt;A href=&quot;http://www.holloway.co.nz/book/8&quot;&gt;being an awful thing&lt;/a&gt; -- I was surprised at MeFi&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/5864&quot;&gt;first reactions&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:37:36 -0800</pubDate>
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