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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:47:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Airliner Videos</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.alexisparkinn.com/airliners_videos.htm"&gt;A collection of airliner videos.&lt;/a&gt; Strangely absent: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ546BEps-M&quot;&gt;Barrel rolling a 707&lt;/a&gt; [YT].</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:19:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>saladin</dc:creator>		<category>jets</category>		<category>airliners</category>		<category>planes</category>		<category>pilots</category>		<category>planecrash</category>		<category>takeoff</category>
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		<title>By: punkfloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024818</link>	
		<description>Quite a money shot near the end of the 737 &quot;crash&quot; landing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:47:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ph00dz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024829</link>	
		<description>A barrel roll?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:01:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: god hates math</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024831</link>	
		<description>A &lt;a href=&quot;http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html&quot;&gt;barrel roll while pouring Iced Tea&lt;/a&gt; is one of my favorites.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:03:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024837</link>	
		<description>A &lt;a href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.com/Valerie.H.Hoagland/KolkataAdventures/photo#5103742642260987282&quot;&gt;cinnamon roll while drinking Iced Tea&lt;/a&gt; is one of my favorites.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:12:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024843</link>	
		<description>Wait...I thought a barrel roll was &quot;sideways&quot;.  What I&apos;m looking at in this video is what I&apos;ve been calling a &quot;loop-dee-loop&quot;.  ...no, actually I can&apos;t tell what I&apos;m looking at.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:16:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Toekneesan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024857</link>	
		<description>Is this John Travolta&apos;s secret jack-off stash?

Wow. 

&quot;It&apos;s not how close you get to the ground but how precise you fly the air plane.&quot;

cool</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:22:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ReiToei</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024858</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the 707 barrel roll clip. That was awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:22:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tube</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024878</link>	
		<description>Tex Johnston! 

Some years ago, I bought for my new bride a 1962 Ford Fairlane. The car was in wonderful condition, and we were told that the original owner was a Boeing test pilot named &quot;Tex&quot;. At the time I was unfamiliar with Tex Johnston. Soon I found out about the famous 707 roll during Seafair, and my heart leaped when I learned the Boeing test pilot was nicknamed &quot;Tex&quot;. But being the eternal skeptic, I had to double check. 

Strangely enough, the car&apos;s original owner was &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; Tex Johnston, but &lt;em&gt;some other&lt;/em&gt; Boeing test pilot nicknamed &quot;Tex&quot;... 

Regardless, the Fairlane was christened by my wife as &quot;Tex&quot;...

I had never seen that piece of footage, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:35:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tube</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Frank Grimes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024884</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/25/nplane125.xml&quot;&gt;Cathay Pacific 777 buzzes the Hong Kong tower&lt;/a&gt;, pilot gets sacked. Kind of ironic since, as Maverick and Goose were told,  &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flixster.com/video.do?videoId=9890013&amp;gallery=movieVideos11271&quot;&gt;You screw up just this much, you&apos;ll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:37:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sea</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024889</link>	
		<description>Yea, a &quot;barrel roll&quot;.  Picture a corkscrewing spiral drawn on the inside of a barrel - this is the flight path.   Ideally it is a purely 1-g maneuver so you and the iced tea can&apos;t tell the difference.  It is possible in nearly any short-winged aircraft but requires a lot of skill to do perfectly.  If you screw up, you can exceed the tolerances of the aircraft in speed or g-load.  So don&apos;t try this at home... If you go looking, you can find u-tubage of some *cough* surprising commercial aircraft barrel rolling.  The 707 is a classic!

Other rolls are the &quot;aileron&quot; roll, rolling about the long axis.  In particular, a &quot;slow roll&quot;, which is decidedly aerobatic, is challenging to do accurately sloooowly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:40:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: parallax7d</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024906</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t believe I am the first one to say:

DO A BARREL ROLL!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:01:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eriko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024921</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Cathay Pacific 777 buzzes the Hong Kong tower&lt;/i&gt;

Not Honk Kong, but Boeing Field near Seattle. Still, a silly thing to do - a 777-300ER is a *big* airplane, and ground passes at 325 can kick up an amazing amount of debris.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:10:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maniabug</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024922</link>	
		<description>I was privileged to see Bob Hoover do his engines-out routine at Oshkosh in 78 or 80---amazing. He put the thing in its parking space with no energy to spare. 

I think the iced tea maneuver would be considered an aileron roll, as the nose describes a small circle around a point on the horizon. While both are positive-G figures, a barrel roll has a wider circumference and the plane&apos;s heading is supposed to change through 90 degrees. 

Neither are to be confused with a slow roll, in which the nose is nailed to a point, and thus half the figure is negative-G. No beverages!

I also enjoyed the A380 crosswind landing test video. They plop that thing down in a crab, and wait for the nose to swing around straight.

On preview - good description, sea. The loading has to vary from 1 G, but not by much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:12:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: not_on_display</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024924</link>	
		<description>MetaFilter is now TruTV!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:15:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024945</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024831&quot;&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/a&gt; A barrel roll while pouring Iced Tea is one of my favorites.

The iced tea was cool and all... but good grief, those dead stick low level fly-bys and one wheel touch downs had my heart in my mouth.  Staggering.  Even in the 3inch picture of a youtube video the sight of that business turbo prob whistling past at eye level is breath taking.  Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:33:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dmd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2024974</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s old, but that Fedex diversions animation makes me crack up every time. &quot;Run away! Run away!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:56:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank Grimes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2025019</link>	
		<description>eriko, you&apos;re right, he buzzed the Seattle tower, not Hong Kong. Either way, I might have to order some rubber dog shit just to make sure the pilot has a job.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:28:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2025101</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Cathay Pacific 777 buzzes the Hong Kong tower&lt;/em&gt;

Anyone know where the video of this is? Apparently it was pulled from YouTube; the only one up now is a slideshow of stills.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:31:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2025105</link>	
		<description>Great clip, god hates math.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:35:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2025526</link>	
		<description>Holy shit Bob Hoover is good. I didn&apos;t think a twin turbo prop could move like that. Particularly not with it&apos;s engines off. 

I never would have thought that something as awesome as a 707 barrel rolling wouldn&apos;t seem as impressive as a couple of tricks done in a tiny business class commuter, but then, I&apos;d never seen Hoover fly, I guess.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:52:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sponge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2025882</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/user/airboyd&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt; on yt has alot of great videos of hong kong landings

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtnL4KYVtDE&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;is youtube&apos;s favorite</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:31:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2026302</link>	
		<description>Great post!!!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:49:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: librarylis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2026427</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;In what is surely the slowest response to an airliner fire every video-taped at a major airport, watch in horror as an airliner is nearly consumed by fire while parked at the gate before firefighters respond.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  

No kidding: the video&apos;s 3:51, and the firefighters don&apos;t even ARRIVE until 3 minutes in!

(The video itself is a real-player video listed about 2/3 down the page that is linked to in the FPP, and it&apos;s a China Airlines flight)

You just sit there watching this plane burn and hoping everyone got out alive.  At one point, it had burnt so much that the plane did a Titanic and snapped in two, with the tail falling to the ground.   Pretty riveting, especially since y&apos;know, I&apos;m flying off that airline in three weeks...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:48:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>librarylis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: krautland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69371/Airliner-Videos#2027287</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Still, a silly thing to do - a 777-300ER is a *big* airplane&lt;/i&gt;

well, they *all* do the low flyby and wing-wiggle with the new boeings when they first leave boeing field in seattle (hong kong...pah). it&apos;s a traditional way of saying thanks to the factory. this guy got into trouble -and he didn&apos;t get fired but merely disciplined from what I&apos;ve read- because they forgot to do the required paperwork beforehand.

&lt;i&gt;and ground passes at 325 can kick up an amazing amount of debris.&lt;/i&gt;

which is why runways get constantly checked by those little trucks with the yellow lights. also, make that something like 150 knts. exceeding 250knts below 10,000 feet is another faa-nono.

a word about the safety of this:
when you fly this close to the ground, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=qI7rv3f3SXg&quot;&gt;the ground effect will keep the aircraft from touching down, as demonstrated in this video&lt;/a&gt;. you actually have to push it down to make the final few feet at speed. this video may look cool but it&apos;s not nearly the scandal you make it out to be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:05:36 -0800</pubDate>
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