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	<title>Comments on: Figures in a Parkland</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:25:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Figures in a Parkland</title>
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		<description>In 1783 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/arts/design/27tran.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=carmontelle&amp;st=nyt&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;a French artist going by the name of Carmontelle &lt;/a&gt;created a scroll that was 138 feet long and offered viewers a continuous translucent moving image called &quot;Figures in a Parkland&quot;. The Getty Museum beautifully put the scroll on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/carmontelle/&quot;&gt;exhibit&lt;/a&gt;. Be sure to take a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/carmontelle/carmontelle_video.html&quot;&gt;virtual stroll through the images&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:07:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>derangedlarid</dc:creator>		<category>carmontelle</category>		<category>movingimage</category>		<category>frenchpainting</category>		<category>scroll</category>
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		<title>By: meringue</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2026471</link>	
		<description>Beautiful.  The amount of work that must have gone into that is extraordinary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:25:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weapons-grade pandemonium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2026497</link>	
		<description>Where did you get 138 feet?  The articles I read all say 12 feet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:06:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>weapons-grade pandemonium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2026598</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;138 feet?&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, I&apos;m looking at that thinking, &quot;wow, this  thing is 10 feet tall.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:05:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: surrendering monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2026617</link>	
		<description>Carmontelle made more than one scroll: 
- &quot;The luminous scenes of verdant parks and splendidly attired people &#8212; between 12 and 19 inches deep and up to 138 feet long&quot; (first link)
- &quot;Ms. Chatel de Brancion found seven in her explorations, including a 138-foot-long one that captures the lives of both the working classes and the gentry across&quot; (first link)

The one showed in the last link is obviously not that long. So the post is a bit misleading, but there were such long scrolls, therefore everybody loses.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:14:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mygothlaundry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2026703</link>	
		<description>Wow, this is fabulous. It&apos;s like the precursor to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclorama&quot;&gt;cyclorama &lt;/a&gt; and makes you think, aha, so this is where that idea came from. I wish the original story he told had been saved; still, I&apos;m rereading the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nealstephenson.com/&quot;&gt;Baroque Cycle&lt;/a&gt; right now and it&apos;s great to imagine those characters in this landscape.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:37:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2027202</link>	
		<description>Cool stuff, thanks for posting!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:34:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aldus_manutius</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2027249</link>	
		<description>Brown University ALSO has a similar scroll of the history of Garibaldi ... they have recently finished digitizing it and it has been documented elsewhere :

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2007-08/07-038.html&quot;&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2007-08/07-038.html&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.projo.com/art/content/GARIBALDI_PANORAMA_12-10-07_1K84NF2_v43.1420d1b.html&quot;&gt;http://www.projo.com/art/content/GARIBALDI_PANORAMA_12-10-07_1K84NF2_v43.1420d1b.html
&lt;/a&gt;
and no less than Bruce Sterling, over on Dead Media, commenting last Fall:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/11/dead-media-be-4.html&quot;&gt;http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/11/dead-media-be-4.html&lt;/a&gt;

This was how history was shared ... fun, eh, kids?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:16:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spongeboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69409/Figures-in-a-Parkland#2027426</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve read about some similar, later work done by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Banvard&quot;&gt;John Banvard&lt;/a&gt;. 

The book mentioned in the above link, Paul S. Collins&apos;s Banvard&apos;s Folly: Thirteen Tales of People Who Didn&apos;t Change the World, is a very enjoyable read, and explains the shear pulling power of these moving paintings in the pre-film age.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:01:26 -0800</pubDate>
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