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	<title>Comments on: Ice Road Truckers of Canada</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:32:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Ice Road Truckers of Canada</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada</link>	
		<description>For about two months each year &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nunalogistics.com/home.html&quot;&gt;Nuna Logistics&lt;/a&gt; operates the &lt;a href=&quot;http://jvtcwinterroad.ca/&quot;&gt;Tibbitt to Contwoyto Winter Road&lt;/a&gt; in Canada&apos;s Northern territories. The road is nearly 600km long and is predominantly constructed over frozen lakes. At this time of year the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=mini_home&amp;mini_id=54692&quot;&gt;Ice Road Truckers&lt;/a&gt; take on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weathercity.com/ca/nt/yellowknife/&quot;&gt;cold &lt;/a&gt;and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedieselgypsy.com/ICE-Truck-1.jpg&quot;&gt;risks &lt;/a&gt;inherent with carrying loads of up to 40 tons over it (home page for a History Channel series about the drivers with some interesting video). The road one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_road&quot;&gt;several worldwide&lt;/a&gt; - it has some &lt;a href=&quot;http://jvtcwinterroad.ca/Updates2008.asp&quot;&gt;travel news&lt;/a&gt;. Also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/48520/Ice-roads-of-Canada&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:57:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rongorongo</dc:creator>		<category>ice</category>		<category>road</category>		<category>truckers</category>		<category>canada</category>		<category>yellowknife</category>		<category>winter</category>		<category>transport</category>		<category>Tibbitt</category>		<category>Contwoyto</category>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030568</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s interesting to me that with all this investment (and profit from the mines), they engineer the road for basically your standard semi-trailer truck. I would think there would be good reason to use trucks with more wheels, for example, or a wider stance, or larger tires. And maybe some safety devices for the drivers.</description>
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		<title>By: Brockles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030576</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would think there would be good reason to use trucks with more wheels, for example, or a wider stance, or larger tires. &lt;/i&gt;

The investment required in bespoke vehicles that only get used for a small part ofthe year is considerable. Also, most of the truckers seem to be owner operators, or have other commitments when not on the ice road - hence costly modifications are beyond them. There is not a lot of profit in trucking, no matter how impressive the road you are using.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:03:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ssg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030588</link>	
		<description>dhartung: If the temperatures are cold enough to make the ice thick enough to support standard B-trains, why should they change the trucks?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:24:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bumpkin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030593</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve driven on that road! What&apos;s really cool is seeing the ice roads during break up. Since they&apos;re cleared of snow, the ice is thicker under the roads than the rest of the lake. They melt last, and I wish I could dig up some old photos of these white bridges of ice floating in the middle of lakes. 

It doesn&apos;t make sense to change trucks. Most of the trucks are bringing materials up from Edmonton, so by the time they get to Tibbit lake they&apos;ve already driven 1500 km on all-weather roads.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:33:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alicesshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030597</link>	
		<description>Truck requirements: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lrse.com/products.cfm?cat=001&amp;prod=426&quot;&gt;life raft&lt;/a&gt; tent with heating.

It&apos;s about the weight, &lt;b&gt;dhartung&lt;/b&gt;, distribution would be minimal/cost.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:RmMSjx0b2DwJ:www.diavik.ca/News/2006/Winter%2520Road%2520Slides.pdf+ice+road+speed+limits&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=ca&amp;client=firefox-a&quot;&gt;Speed Limit&lt;/a&gt; on above mentioned road. Oh, including, strict enforcing.

600km@25kph=24Hours. Fuck me. Not a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chowhound.com/topics/423711&quot;&gt;Tim&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; in sight. 
&quot;Yes, I&apos;ll take an iced coffee&apos;.

no./</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:39:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alicesshoe</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cowbellemoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030611</link>	
		<description>Nuna Logistics is totally a bond villain front.  Why else would their webpage need to talk?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:21:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eriko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030638</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, including, strict enforcing.&lt;/i&gt;

Strict, as in &quot;you plummet into a frozen lake and die if you exceed the speed limit.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:02:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alicesshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030652</link>	
		<description>yes &lt;b&gt;erico&lt;/b&gt;, like the tuning of a bridge, humming and swaying, ice has less &apos;give&apos;, need to go slower or else you&apos;re in the drink.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:03:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030822</link>	
		<description>The TV show was OK, with the exception of playing up the competition angle. &quot;Dash for the cash!&quot; A bunch of sleep deprived guys driving round the clock at 20 mph. They make some serious money in a short amount of time, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:19:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: srboisvert</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030857</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s nothing.  When I was your age that road was uphill both ways and we had to walk it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:48:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fourcheesemac</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69528/Ice-Road-Truckers-of-Canada#2030873</link>	
		<description>Awesome.  Having driven around the Alaskan tundra in a 4x4 F350 dually diesel last November in Alaska, I have nothing but respect for the guys driving those trucks.  Yikes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
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