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	<title>Comments on: Alex Dragulescu code art</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:42:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Alex Dragulescu code art</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art</link>	
		<description>Gee. I think I&apos;ll uninstall my firewall and ditch the anti-virus. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sq.ro/malwarez.php&quot;&gt;Malwares&lt;/a&gt; is pretty. via &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_7279000/7279363.stm&quot;&gt;bbc&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:29:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>		<category>trojans</category>		<category>spyware</category>		<category>virii</category>		<category>malware</category>
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		<title>By: middleclasstool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034537</link>	
		<description>Yes.  Yes they is.  

That&apos;s a neat idea, thanks for the link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:42:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KevinSkomsvold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034539</link>	
		<description>So malware is simply a series of thinly disguised &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinovirus&quot;&gt;rhinoviruses&lt;/a&gt;? Awesome!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:42:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slogger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034546</link>	
		<description>A link that says malware and leads to a .ro site?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:43:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034552</link>	
		<description>I wish I knew enough about code to understand what the different pieces mean.  It&apos;s really a pretty amazing visualization of the little buggers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034560</link>	
		<description>I would like to know more about this algorithm.  

Last I heard, virii were discovered based on signatures in the file.  I never even thought about traffic analysis/call patterns.  The distinctiveness would seem to indicate that you could recognize malware by &quot;shape&quot; in this parameter space in exactly the same way antibodies do it by shape in 3space.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:50:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: KevinSkomsvold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034568</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;A link that says malware and leads to a .ro site?&lt;/em&gt;

What? No sense of adventure? Kids these days....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:57:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>KevinSkomsvold</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kronos_to_Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034679</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;A link that says malware and leads to a .ro site?&lt;/em&gt;

Oooops. Sorry. First post to the front page and I nearly wreck everyone&apos;s machine.... I checked  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.siteadvisor.com/studies/map_malweb_mar2007.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; McAfee link and felt the hair on the back of my neck go up. My goodness. I had no idea. I&apos;ve got the SiteAdvisor extension; it said the Dragulescu site was OK.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:06:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: demiurge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034687</link>	
		<description>I doubt that these images have much to do with the input being computer viruses.  I would bet that running notepad.exe through their algorithm would give similar sorts of patterns.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:11:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cecilkorik</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034691</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wish I knew enough about code to understand what the different pieces mean.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe I&apos;m just cynical, but I suspect the answer would be &quot;almost nothing&quot;. They&apos;re just using the malware&apos;s function calls as inputs to their &quot;make a pretty 3d rendering&quot; algorithm, which they don&apos;t seem to provide any details about. It&apos;s a typical sensationalist trick to show patterns where there aren&apos;t any, chances are any patterns you see are coded into the algorithm, not a result of the input. I suspect you would get equivalently pretty pictures from any normal executable, or even pure random numbers.

But again, I could just be cynical. It&apos;s a good post, anyway, the pictures are neat, but I think saying they&apos;re a result of the malware inputs might be stretching the truth a bit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pyry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034696</link>	
		<description>These are very beautiful, but I suspect the actual viruses are just acting as fancy seeds for a random number generator / hash function and that you could get the same results with nearly any source of randomness. Which is to say that although they&apos;re pretty, they aren&apos;t particularly informative as visualizations.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:18:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: noble_rot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034720</link>	
		<description>These are pretty useless without any information regarding the algorithm used to go from virus to image.  I think Pyry nailed it.  Some bit of memory occupied by the virus is just seeding a 3d fractal generator.  You could probably take some random bit of your OS or web browser or whatever and, using whatever algorithm it is, come up with an equally pretty picture.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:32:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: [son] QUAALUDE</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2034912</link>	
		<description>heeeey dittoheads!



cool post, regardless</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:36:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spiderskull</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2035014</link>	
		<description>Wow, that&apos;s awesome.

&lt;i&gt;I doubt that these images have much to do with the input being computer viruses. I would bet that running notepad.exe through their algorithm would give similar sorts of patterns.&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly my thoughts. The distribution in API calls is probably similar enough to generate a relatively homogeneous set of images, regardless of actual function of the program.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:52:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2039771</link>	
		<description>You know what makes me grumpy? When I spend about 30 minutes crafting a post, then realize that I&apos;d forgotten to search for the main URL first, and realize that somebody&apos;d already done it, but that it was in a kinda lazy one-link throwaway post. I &lt;em&gt;hate &lt;/em&gt;that.

Definitely check out some of Alex Dragulescu&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sq.ro/projects.php&quot;&gt;other projects&lt;/a&gt;. His stuff may or may not meet your exacting standards for information visualization, but I reckon he does really interesting work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:22:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69628/Alex-Dragulescu-code-art#2039776</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;(By the way, I&apos;m not &lt;em&gt;really &lt;/em&gt;grumpy about it.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:35:45 -0800</pubDate>
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