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	<title>Comments on: The banjo&apos;s great great grandaddy.</title>
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		<title>The banjo&apos;s great great grandaddy.</title>
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		<description>So, you hollow out piece of wood into an oblong bowl shape, and you attach a dowel to it. Stretch a dried animal skin over that, and put some strings on it. Instruments of this general construction and in a range of sizes can be found from Morrocco to Nigeria and everywhere in between. It goes by any number of local names: Malian masters like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/bassekoukouyate&quot; title=&quot;Sorry MySpace haterz, but the music here on Kouyat&#0233;&apos;s page is sublime.&quot;&gt; Bassekou&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NTHjnd1EI&quot; title=&quot;This excellent little film (part 1, 9:54) shot in Mali introduces us to Kouyate and takes us on a journey to his home village.&quot;&gt;Kou&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IbjXWWeevSc&quot; title=&quot;The Kouyat&#0233; film, part 2, 8:11&quot;&gt;yat&#0233;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/artist_detail.cfm?artist_id=CHEICKHAMA#&quot; title=&quot;Be sure to check some of the fine performance video clips linked to on this Kennedy Center page.&quot;&gt;Cheick&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.malimusic.net/about.htm&quot; title=&quot;Here&apos;s his bio page, from his website.&quot;&gt;Hamala Diabat&#0233;&lt;/a&gt; call it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coraconnection.com/pages/ngoni.html&quot;&gt;ngoni&lt;/a&gt;. Senegalese Wolof griots like &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaLjU1CyTE&quot; title=&quot;Here&apos;s a little documentary, sort of, on the instrument: very good  closeup footage of it being played by Guiss&#0233;, as well as the great Mansour Seck.&quot;&gt;Samba Aliou Guiss&#0233;&lt;/a&gt; call it &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xalam&quot; title=&quot;Wikipedia page on the instrument.&quot;&gt;xalam&lt;/a&gt;.  And Morroccan &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HppB8_JMUpk&quot; title=&quot;These guys totally rock.&quot;&gt;gnawa musicians&lt;/a&gt; like &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EF_njLi6_A8&quot; title=&quot;Hakmoun&apos;s former group, Zahar, from an appearance on the old &apos;Night Music&apos; TV show. What a smoking band this was! Those are old buddies of mine on guitar and drums, but don&apos;t tell the mods, okay?&quot;&gt;Hassan&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rBxTRcdUNU0&quot; title=&quot;Live in New York.&quot;&gt;Hakmoun&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m4nHH33cPoo&quot; title=&quot;Great singer, this fellow, and aside from the handclaps and chorus vocals, there are no other instruments in this clip, so it&apos;s a nice showcase for the gimbri.&quot;&gt;Hamid&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BdTIHrmmItU&quot; title=&quot;In contrast to the stark simplicity of the previous clip, this one features drum kit, horn section, electric guitar, congas, the works.&quot;&gt;El &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LI4-dn5wDMw&quot; title=&quot;Here we find Hamid back in a more traditional setting, but this time his accompanying chorus, instead of handclaps, play those Morroccan clacky instruments. Potent groove, eh? Just percussion, voice, and, well, a bass line.&quot;&gt;Kasri&lt;/a&gt; get &lt;i&gt;way&lt;/i&gt; funky on the larger version that they call the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wesleyan.edu/vim/cgi-bin/instrument.cgi?id=22&quot; title=&quot;From Wesleyan University&apos;s excellent Virtual Instrument Museum.&quot;&gt;gimbri or sentir&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;[&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt;: see hoverovers for link descriptions]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bonus tracks:
 
Cheick Hamala Diabate again, but not on ngoni: this time he joins antique banjo enthusiast Bob Carlin for a duet on... &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5trePABcnv4&quot;&gt;antique banjos&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&apos;s another &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfShODZnwQ&quot;&gt;Hassan Hakmoun&lt;/a&gt; clip. Audio and video are out of sync, but by exactly one beat, so it&apos;s not actually too terrible to watch!

This clip features a nice groove from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;videoid=28174423&quot;&gt;Master Musicians of Jajouka&lt;/a&gt;.

This clip is an odd mishmash of images, a combination of travel snapshots but with photos of gimbri players interspersed, but audio is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlrm9jOOjtw&quot;&gt;really nice Gnawa groove&lt;/a&gt;.

And this little high-speed montage clip (it&apos;s only just over a minute long), well, you may find either kinda cool or kinda annoying: &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1TdGfKs_QF8&quot;&gt;AfroBeat Banjo&lt;/a&gt;.

There are, of course, many related instruments across West Africa: oamong them, the larger &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdKAuyGyTY&quot;&gt;donso ngoni&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonting&quot;&gt;akonting&lt;/a&gt;. See also: MySpace Music &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/akonting&quot;&gt;akonting page&lt;/a&gt;. 

There&apos;s also the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kora_(instrument)&quot;&gt;kora&lt;/a&gt;, of course, but that&apos;s a whole &apos;nother FPP.

And finally, this incredibly exhaustive MySpace Music page, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/banjoroots&quot;&gt;Banjo Roots&lt;/a&gt; packs more info, images and links onto a single page than many websites do in 20 or more. A real labor of love!</description>
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		<title>By: squasha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039017</link>	
		<description>This post is also clearly a labor of love. As usual, your musicological research is guaranteed to keep me up past me bedtime.

I&apos;ll be passing along the linkage, as well..the next time my brother drags his djembe, flutes, and mbiras from S.F. for a visit, I may have to send him to Tokyo in search of like-minded individuals....</description>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039024</link>	
		<description>Very cool, flapjax at midnite! Ditto squasha&apos;s comments. I was in Western Sahara at the end of the 80s, and hanging out at a tea shop one evening, I saw a guy improvise one of these using a large cooking oil can as the body, a random piece of wood for the neck, and unraveled bicycle brake cables for the strings. It sounded pretty good! This brought back a lot of forgotten memories; and now I know what these things are called! Many thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:43:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zouhair</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039099</link>	
		<description>Dude, that&apos;s some great post, as a Moroccan I was raised with this music in the ear and it&apos;s always a joy to hear it again and again.</description>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039180</link>	
		<description>Great post! Thanks, flapjax!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:07:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: not_on_display</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039198</link>	
		<description>Damn, Flapjax, you&apos;re like the Isaac Asmiov of music FPP&apos;s!  (Though I don&apos;t know how Asimov&apos;s quality fared across the Dewey decimal system; you&apos;re batting near 1.000.)

&lt;small&gt;/end mixed metaphor&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:32:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zaelic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039386</link>	
		<description>The Bob Carlin link was an eye-opener. I often argue that a lot of the &quot;archaic&quot; A-Minor appalachian fiddle and banjo tunes are African and not Celtic in origin. Damn. Now I gotta rethink everything I know... Been into gourd banjos for a long time... time to graduate from my coffe can banjo and get back to basics...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:56:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snsranch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039451</link>	
		<description>Ah, what a beautiful post, man.  This will definitely take a couple of days to fully digest.  Thanx flapjax!

&lt;strong&gt;zaelic, &lt;/strong&gt; I&apos;ve given a lot of thought to that too and so far it looks like their may be a connection that happened in Scotland with the Moors in the Middle Ages.  Just a thought.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:01:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolof</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039520</link>	
		<description>Totally awesome post.  I thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:26:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039549</link>	
		<description>Somes more MySpace Music pages, full of good music:

Two fine akonting players from Africa, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/danieljatta&quot;&gt;Daniel Jatta&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/sanandiaye&quot;&gt;Sana Ndiaye&lt;/a&gt;.

And great stuff from Morroccan gimbri player &lt;a href=&quot; http://www.myspace.com/noubalila&quot;&gt;Nouba&lt;/a&gt;.

More gimbri from Algiers-based &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/alielgnaoui&quot;&gt; Ali El Gnawi&lt;/a&gt;. 

The fantastic gimbri player and singer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/hassanboussou&quot;&gt;Hassan Boussou&lt;/a&gt;. Boussou is also the frontman for Afropop band &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/sewarye&quot;&gt;Sewarye&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039571</link>	
		<description>Plus more Morroccan funkiness from &lt;a href=&quot; http://www.myspace.com/ouledgnawa&quot;&gt;Ouled Gnawa&lt;/a&gt;.

Also recommended: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/nurukane&quot;&gt;Nuru Kane&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/andrakouyate&quot;&gt;Andra Kouyate&lt;/a&gt;. 

French musicians who&apos;ve taken up the gimbri: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/antoinelaloux&quot;&gt;Antoine Laloux&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/loyehrlich&quot;&gt;Loy Ehrlich&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:41:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039645</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s a motherlode of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arts.ufl.edu/CAHRE/senegambia_videos.asp&quot;&gt;akonting videos&lt;/a&gt;, all shot recently in the Gambia by banjo player player extraordinaire (and akonting student/enthusiast) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/fiddlevy&quot;&gt;Chuck Levy&lt;/a&gt;, who is helping to present the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arts.ufl.edu/CAHRE/aimgambia.asp&quot;&gt;African Roots of the Banjo symposium&lt;/a&gt; coming up in less than 2 weeks in Gainesville, Florida. And at that symposium, among other banjo/akonting luminaries will be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobcarlinmusic.com/&quot;&gt;Bob Carlin&lt;/a&gt;, (seen in duet with Cheick Hamala Diabate in one of the linked videos from this FPP), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/uncleshlomo&quot;&gt;Shlomo Pestcoe&lt;/a&gt; and akonting player &lt;b&gt;Sana Ndiaye&lt;/b&gt;, whose MySpace page I linked in a comment just above.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:15:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darkstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039652</link>	
		<description>Awesome music.  Thanks for the post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darkstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/69738/The-banjos-great-great-grandaddy#2039655</link>	
		<description>By the way, this reminds me of some outstanding Oud music by Professor Alla.  Different instrument, but his Bechar vibe is very shmoove, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:27:43 -0800</pubDate>
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