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	<title>Comments on: Web Design to reach new lows</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:17:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Web Design to reach new lows</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1008-200-1545615.html"&gt;Web Design to reach new lows&lt;/a&gt; as the college programs unleash their first wave of cookie-cutter web designers and &lt;b&gt;Microsoft&lt;/b&gt; fights to give us a new appreciation for the untalented.  &lt;i&gt;Ugh&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:58:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>othermatt</dc:creator>		<category>WebDesign</category>		<category>Microsoft</category>		<category>Design</category>		<category>College</category>
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		<title>By: antc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows#642</link>	
		<description>The IT staff at my company sent out a memo a few weeks ago stating that all Web design would be supported only via Front Page, because it was included with Windoze 2K.

Never mind that no one in the shop had experience with Front Page. At some point rational thought prevailed and IT was told to leave the Web staff alone and go back to screwing up^W^Wmaintaining the Exchange servers.

I suck at Web design, and I didn&apos;t even need a four year program to figure that out. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows#646</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s been talk before about how web design is free of accreditation and certification, and any certification test you could devise would be skewed towards your particular expertise or point of view, but I bet we see a push this year towards getting some sort of certification test set up. 

Luckily, there&apos;s no &quot;center&quot; or governing body that people would trust, so if the HTML Writers Guild or Microsoft devises a test, no one is going to take it seriously.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:09:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: othermatt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows#665</link>	
		<description>Oh, I firmly disagree.  While no one &lt;u&gt;in the industry&lt;/u&gt; would take it seriously, potential employers are always anxious to hear about another piece of paper on your wall, regardless of its source.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:01:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows#675</link>	
		<description>*Some* potential employers! As a potential employer (and employer, actually) of web people myself, I couldn&apos;t give a hooey about any pieces of paper (regardless of source), and a certificate of this sort would probably be a strike *against* the candidate because of what it says about them. 

Then again, I&apos;m a college dropout (and proud of it), so maybe I&apos;m not the norm, unfortunately, but there are quite a few people out there (hopefully, in the places you&apos;d want to work), that are rational about such things.

Speaking of, I was chatting to a VC today (in Silicon Valley, no less), who acted like it actually *mattered* that I wasn&apos;t &quot;classicly&quot; trained (I think he actually used that term) in computer science, even though...well, I&apos;m ranting, so I&apos;ll stop there.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:50:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deboute</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/698/Web-Design-to-reach-new-lows#761</link>	
		<description>evhead wrote ::
&quot;so maybe I&apos;m not the norm&quot;

oh no, you&apos;re not , ) and be proud of it !
how many webdesigners employers read metafilter, or even know it exist ?

in france, i&apos;ve seen a spec for a job... 10/15 years of experience in an internet related job needed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:46:05 -0800</pubDate>
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