Comments on: Sandals, socks, and dudes

Sandals, socks, and dudes

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:31:18 -0800

Sandals, socks, and dudes

By: Wanderlust88

Wanderlust88 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:33:43 -0800

speechless

By: jeffamaphone

jeffamaphone — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:35:35 -0800

Truly, this is the best of the web.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:37:01 -0800

You have to kind of admire the big "fuck you", the big "I could give 2 shits about yer gaddam fashion" that these guys display. Of course, I myself could never be that brave. Never.

By: Rich Smorgasbord

Rich Smorgasbord — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:37:21 -0800

This is still around? I remember it from about five years ago. I still don't get it.

By: tula

tula — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:38:04 -0800

It asks so little and gives so much.

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:44:17 -0800

Is this some kind of porn? I'm going to be mad if this is some kind of porn.

By: padraigin

padraigin — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:46:31 -0800

I don't know. I feel inclined to give British guys some slack with the socks thing, when they're at home. It's cold there.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:46:55 -0800

Excellent use of the yep tag, BTW. Might you also consider a yup? I'd also like to suggest yessireebobbarooney!, which I think might be particularly appropriate in this case.

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:48:03 -0800

So if it's cold, why the sandals? I'm going to be mad if this is some kind of porn. I'm going to go mad if this is some sort of porn.

By: empyrean

empyrean — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:49:50 -0800

The answer was right there in front of me and I never saw it. I've been wearing sandals without socks for so long and I have, at times, been vaguely aware of my feet being cold. No more.

By: LoopyG

LoopyG — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:54:19 -0800

I have a sincere question. Why is it considered wrong to wear socks with sandals. I hear this often, but do not understand it. Is it purely something of "style", meaning we have simply agreed that is wrong to do so. Or is it something else. When one looks upon a person wearing sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort? Maybe it is another possibility, such as there were people in the past who wore socks with sandals and these people were in some way terrible, leaving a bad impression on the clothing and footwear combinations they wore. I am genuinely curious as to how this particular belief came about.

By: padraigin

padraigin — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:54:58 -0800

So if it's cold, why the sandals? Air circulation? I don't know, I live in the Bay Area and see this phenomenon all the time, I've had to try to find ways to justify it so I don't go nuts. Also: better, in most cases, than having to see someone's toes.

By: Pseudonumb

Pseudonumb — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:11 -0800

Punk as fuck.

By: Tube

Tube — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:45 -0800

Bucket of socks.

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:00:19 -0800

I am genuinely curious as to how this particular belief came about. It may be a holdover from when all sandals had a thing that went between your big toe and the rest of your toes, which is both uncomfortable and makes you look like you have ninja turtle feet.

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:08 -0800

When ~~one looks upon a person wearing~~ wears sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort? Not upon the wearer, sir, not upon the wearer.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:04:51 -0800

Every single one of the guys on that website have a perfectly valid reason for wearing socks with sandals: ingrown toenails.

By: dersins

dersins — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:05:31 -0800

I have a sincere question. Why is it considered wrong to wear socks with sandals. Dude. They're sandals. And socks.

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:03 -0800

Am I imagining things, or are Great Britain and the great Pacific Northwest most commonly represented in these pics? I ask as a sandals-and-socks-in-the-summer PNW person.

By: growabrain

growabrain — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:09:14 -0800

Yep tag - “correct punctuation can make all the difference between—I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse and i helped my uncle jack off a horse.”

By: amyms

amyms — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:11:32 -0800

I can tolerate the kilt guys, because the socks are just part of the outfit. And I don't mind seeing white socks with the chunky Birkenstock-style sandals. But dark socks with sandals and shorts is a crime against humanity.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:12:33 -0800

Count me among the camp who have never really understood why this is so anathema to some. I mean, yes, it's a bit goofy or old-guy or something, but not particularly worse than plaid shorts or what have you.

By: mrzarquon

mrzarquon — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:14:00 -0800

Sandals, because it is warm out and you want to let your feet air out. Socks, because it is not quite warm enough for just sandals, but it is also dry and you want something to keep your feet clean (along with your ingrown nails) when you slip on your easy to walk around in sandals. Also, because you like to wear just socks when you are inside your house, so it is nice to just leave the sandals in the front hall as soon as you come inside, without having to lace anything. I think sandals are a grown up way of getting away with wearing velcro footwear, avoiding the taunting stigma you had as a child who couldn't tie shoelaces.

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:15:12 -0800

And finally, while I have not unearthed photographic evidence of this as yet, in my head it is said that The Dude wears socks and sandals. This may support my PNW thesis, his being well-known as a member of the Seattle Seven. Or what have you.

By: bwg

bwg — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:15:55 -0800

Next up: suspenders, belts, and dudes!

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:04 -0800

What have you, dhartung. In-deed, sir.

By: tellurian

tellurian — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:18:12 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.

By: rmmcclay

rmmcclay — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:20:03 -0800

I only wear sandals year round...in the winter I wear socks. I guess that's considered weird. Wearing shoes...that's weird.

By: scody

scody — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:27:04 -0800

Sandals, socks, and dudes Sung to the tune of "Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves."

By: Rich Smorgasbord

Rich Smorgasbord — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:32:55 -0800

It's just sartorial xenophobia. Like those celebrity-clothes-gaffe sites, or ugly-photos sites: mildly meanspirited, jejune, and close-minded.

By: Jawn

Jawn — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:35:12 -0800

I'm tired of all the hate on the sandals and socks. We wear sandals because they rock. And socks because it's too cold to go without. What's the fucking problem there? Huh? I challenge you to be more fashionable than that. Don't bother trying. You're not. So fuck right off.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:35:26 -0800

It's all true! I am closed-minded, jejune and mildly gassy about sandals and socks. But I am pretty open-minded about the dudes.

By: naju

naju — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:38:57 -0800

This has "emergent hipster-nerd fashion craze" written all over it. (Exhibit A.) By the way, some of these dudes aren't dudes.

By: bjork24

bjork24 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:42:18 -0800

The dude abides by fashion rules.

By: eclectist

eclectist — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:50:12 -0800

I have endured no small amount of derision for wearing sandal/sock combinations, even in the dim mists of the early paleo-grunge period, when, for a short time, the larger vertebrate docmartenshod coexisted peacefully with the more docile, phish-loving sandalsoxers.

By: Cranberry

Cranberry — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:51:14 -0800

Maybe if I had socks with separate toes I would wear them with flip-flops because they are hysterical. Another reason for socks is DIRT getting all over your feet. Want another reason? How about dirt mixing with sweaty summer feet and forming a stinky patina? eew.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:56:18 -0800

I don't wear sandals myself because my feet are frankly somewhat terrifying, but... dammit! I think they look nice sometimes! I don't care who knows!

By: louche mustachio

louche mustachio — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:57:06 -0800

When one looks upon a person wearing sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort? It causes me to feel a sensation that I don't really know how to properly describe. Whatever the opposite of "horny" is. Now, if you live in a climate where your feet may get cold when you wear sandals, there is an invention that can help alleviate what ails you. That invention is BOOTS.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:59:15 -0800

Creepy.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:01:20 -0800

socks + sandals = shoes - socks Also, if wearing socks with sandals is wrong, then I don't ever want to be right.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:02:59 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos. Socks and stilettos.

By: Oriole Adams

Oriole Adams — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:10:13 -0800

Support plus absorption equals comfort.

By: thedaniel

thedaniel — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:13:16 -0800

I knew this cat named Ardy - he wore sandals and socks (MP3) Via

By: Christ, what an asshole

Christ, what an asshole — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:13:57 -0800

I will never outlive my senior year picture. People brought it up at my reunion last year. And my more fashionably-astute self today, for the curious.

By: Free word order!

Free word order! — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:25:31 -0800

The relevant question, like with every fashion related issue, is "Is everyone taking crazy-pills?" Sandals = comfortable open shoes you keep at work and which you change to more robust outdoor/city shoes for commuting, most of the year. When you wander a few hundred meters for lunch, you wear sandals. When you switch to your working sandals, do you take your socks off? Hell no. As a habit it is all too practical and sane to be judged because just because. (I was told yesterday that I should finally get proper working sandals, it is not good if I always keep my outdoor shoes on. I work half day, so I'm not so accustomed to all of the workplace routines, but I see the point.)

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:26:47 -0800

I will never outlive my senior year picture. Well, if the picture burns up in a house fire or gets washed away in a flood or something, you may well outlive it. If the picture is kept in a safe, dry place and no such calamity befalls, however, it's safe to say the picture will outlive you.

By: twins named Lugubrious and Salubrious

twins named Lugubrious and Salubrious — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:43:10 -0800

It causes me to feel a sensation that I don't really know how to properly describe. Whatever the opposite of "horny" is. posted by louche mustachio at 2:57 AM on March 13 Eponysterical. I've hated on this ever since I've been able to form conscious thoughts. I can't believe I just figured it out now. It's because your toes? They're phallic-shaped. Yes. And so deep, deep down somewhere in your unconscious reptile brain, there is the realization that you have five dick-shaped appendages sticking out of the end of your foot. And is a woolen condom sexy? No. No, it is not.

By: bbuda

bbuda — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:02:05 -0800

It's referenced in the original post, but it's worth noting the "We're a lot like you" PEMCO ad campaign, highlighting Pacific Northwest stereotypes such as 'Sandals-and-Socks-guy'. It's spot-on.

By: zippy

zippy — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:15:12 -0800

I would like to declare for all to know that I once wore socks and Birks to the Army Navy Game. That is all.

By: Jacqueline

Jacqueline — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:31:12 -0800

What is the big deal? Everyone in Seattle does this.

By: From Bklyn

From Bklyn — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:40:37 -0800

There are a lot of pictures there. A lot.

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:08:14 -0800

Well, if the picture burns up in a house fire or gets washed away in a flood or something, you may well outlive it. If the picture is kept in a safe, dry place and no such calamity befalls, however, it's safe to say the picture will outlive you. Well and now that it's on the frickin internet.

By: insatiablehee

insatiablehee — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:15:48 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos. I say we get this site running Socks and stilettos!! even worse, woollen socks and stilettos! or black socks with white stilettos! ah the endless possibilities~~~

By: louche mustachio

louche mustachio — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:14:56 -0800

What is the big deal? Everyone in Seattle does this. Everyone in Seattle did heroin for a while, too. Just because everyone in Seattle does it doesn't mean it's a good idea. I love socks. I love sandals. I have many pairs of both of these things. They are not allowed to be together, because socks entirely defeats the purpose of wearing sandals in the first place. Therefore, socks and sandals look ridiculous together. I'm not saying you don't have the right to cover your feet however you wish. Be my guest. I'm just saying it's an abomination and I will make fun of you.

By: louche mustachio

louche mustachio — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:18:43 -0800

Socks and stilettos!! Black stiletto heeled Mary Janes and white socks.

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:19:12 -0800

Now, WOMEN with sandals and socks? RrrrrrOWWrrrr.

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:23:25 -0800

Socks and sandals are an abomination against nature.

By: h00py

h00py — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:25:50 -0800

I had a teacher in grade 7 who was mocked mercilessly for his decision to wear socks (knee-highs) and sandals (the ones with the thong between the big and second toe) every single day, and yet he continued to do it. I met him at a colleague from my local theatre's house many years later and he was still wearing The Same Sandals (with white ankle socks). He was seriously uncool, but he apparently didn't give a shit. (Hi, Mr Piper!)

By: SteveInMaine

SteveInMaine — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:30:47 -0800

So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay? And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*? *except when actually gardening

By: louche mustachio

louche mustachio — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:51:46 -0800

So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay? Sweet merciful pancakes. HELL NO. And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*? Well, there were those jelly shoes... they were cool when I was eight. *except when actually gardening Or conducting autopsies. Apparently they are excellent if you occasionally need to hose viscera off your shoes.

By: SteveInMaine

SteveInMaine — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:54:16 -0800

Or conducting autopsies. Apparently they are excellent if you occasionally need to hose viscera off your shoes. What an offal thought.

By: louche mustachio

louche mustachio — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:08:24 -0800

This guy seems awfully happy. He has long since left behind any need for fashion. Or pants. This fellow also appears not to give a damn. (NOTE: That is not a kilt. That is a skirt.)

By: jontyjago

jontyjago — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:11:58 -0800

Jesus, some people just do not give a shit. Much respect to the man. And I'm not so sure about this being purely a UK / Pacific NW thing. Only a hunch, but I'm thinking a lot of Germans and Dutch in these pics.

By: slimepuppy

slimepuppy — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:12:31 -0800

Anyone else spot Linus Torvalds in there? Or a bloody good impersonator. Open source = socks and sandals.

By: poppo

poppo — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:14:37 -0800

I rock white tube socks under black adidas flops. I am berated mericilessly for this by everyone who loves me, and whispered of by those who don't. But keep in mind, I don't do this for myself, either in ignorance of fashion nor in an anti-fashion. I do it because if I wear no socks on while my feet are in my flip-flops, they sweat, and then they smell. Bad. So, just remember when you see me with the socks and flip-flops: I do it for you.

By: lifeless

lifeless — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:16:45 -0800

Personally, I couldn't imagine wearing shoes at work all day, so once I get in, I switch to sandals and socks (both dark, like basically all of my pants are). It's common practice around here (Finland). Shoes would just get sweaty and uncomfortable during the day. To reach faux pas status in these parts, you'd have to do the unholy trinity of shoes, sandals and shorts. Going outside with socks and sandals looks silly, too. Let it be said that sandals without socks look just as odd when combined with pants instead of shorts. So, to recap: shorts + sandals, no socks = OK. Pants + sandals + socks = OK, as long as there are no strong contrasts between sock and sandal colors and you stay indoors. Anything else = not OK. If you care about trivial fashion issues like this, that is.

By: vbfg

vbfg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:19 -0800

I have sweaty feet. For this reason I like to wear sandals. Also for this reason, if I don't wear socks when wearing anything at all on my feet then whatever it is will not be fit for human habitation in a very short period of time. Anyone who is offended by normal measures for staying clean and looking after your property is in luck though. I live in northern England and walk about five miles to and from work, and either of those facts on their own is enough to make sure I hardly ever wear sandals.

By: public

public — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:38:42 -0800

Oh come on it's not that bad.

By: Elmore

Elmore — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:55:39 -0800

I wouldn't have been surprised to see a photo of my Dad among those. We always made fun of him about his sandals and socks and he just shrugged it off with "it's what I like to wear, so what?" attitude. Fair enough. But, I was visiting him recently and saw he was wearing a pair of Crocs. I couldn't even make fun of him, he would have picked up on my shock and utter horror and that would have hurt his feelings. I still get shivers thinking about them. I do not know if he was wearing socks with them, I couldn't look at them for long enough, but my guess is that he was.

By: DecemberBoy

DecemberBoy — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:59:24 -0800

I'm going to go mad if this is some sort of porn. I gurantee you there's someone who would happily beat off to this. Hell, I might try it just as a challenge. I consider myself an upper-level masturbator. Really, though, this just makes me feel like wearing my old 16-hole Gripfasts again and stomping around. I do like the odd mix of old British men and American dungeon masters, though.

By: bwg

bwg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:07:20 -0800

I wear socks with my Tevas during winter in Hong Kong, because at 5C, living in a concrete box with no heating system means uncovered feet go numb in short order. That, and I just can't bring myself to wear bunny slippers.

By: Lucinda

Lucinda — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:11:41 -0800

I wear socks with my Crocs, but they're these ones, and I wear them with my funky hand-knit socks, so I'm okay, right? I'm still cool, right? Please tell me I'm cool....

By: Uther Bentrazor

Uther Bentrazor — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:24:03 -0800

Oh boy. Fashion. Whenever "Fashion Faux Pas!" tabloid style articles or discussion, through improper internet drainage leak into my corner of the internet and contaminate the water table, the only thing I can think of is kids in my elementary school who made fun of kids who wore their backpacks with both shoulder straps on (the proper "cool" way was to carry your backpack with only one shoulder strap over one shoulder, putting all the weight on one side). Even at age 7 I found this completely ridiculous. I'm pretty sure you can gather a collection of any given clothing article, hairstyle or accessory, and depending on the accompanying text and persistence behind it, make it either a social gaffe or the next fashion craze. "Fashion Alert!: Uh oh! Jake Gyllenhal is out and about, but what's that on your feet, Jake? Socks and sandals? Looks like this 'Zodiac' star's horoscope didn't tell him this was a bad choice!" ... "Whether burning up the red carpet, or a lazy day in the park, Scarlett Johanssen looks stunning! Scarlett plays up a casual, playful spring look with socks and sandals. Look out guys, this 'Black Dahlia' star is looking killer! Christ, die in a fire.

By: jadepearl

jadepearl — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:30:43 -0800

Well, I wear socks and sandals and what sandals. If you have seen a woman in orange and electric blue birkenstocks and white ankle socks in the Bay Area that was me. Because you don't go half assed or half shod; either be deliriously good looking or so ugly it is a statement. I love sandals because I have wide feet, like an elephant's, but I do not like getting the "patina" from sandals nor want to give freebies to foot fetishists so socks it is.

By: shothotbot

shothotbot — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:53:15 -0800

The first great betrayal of self that leads to all other betrayals.

By: The Light Fantastic

The Light Fantastic — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:34 -0800

Christ, what ~~an asshole~~ a cutie!

By: docpops

docpops — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:16:01 -0800

This is why I love living in Oregon. I can run into the grocery store [or Nordstroms] wearing midweight fleece longjohns and half-eroded water sandals and a skull cap in winter, have a chat with a couple patients in all likelihood, and at no time will anyone register even the slightest curiosity regarding my sartorial choices. Contrast that with my visits to Orange County to see family and I got the feeling that it was a thirty minute prep job just to run out for a seven dollar coffee. And people wore shoes that I see in my wife's closet that never make it into the outside world because the weather would shred them. The sad part is I had a bit of envy.

By: Pecinpah

Pecinpah — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:18:37 -0800

I have this joke I play on my boss. I get pictures of him that I find on co-worker's cameras, or on his own (don't ask). Then I get odd or silly pictures from my photo library or from the internet and I photoshop his head onto someone else's body. Then I add some sort of headline that makes fun of his bizzare last name and have my hilarious girlfriend give me a quip to secret somewhere in the picture, on a cardboard plaque in the background for instance, or on the T-shirt of someone standing off to the side. I then print these pictures out at 11" X 17" and tape them to his office wall when he's out of town. My office is next to his, so when he returns and finds them I get to hear him swearing and/or laughing about it. He has no idea it's me who's doing this. I have already depleted the 'Scared of Santa Gallery' of useful pics, but this socks-and-sandals website gives me fodder for about four more months (particularly these two pictures. Thank you, Metafilter!

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:21:53 -0800

It may be a holdover from when all sandals had a thing that went between your big toe and the rest of your toes, which is both uncomfortable and makes you look like you have ninja turtle feet. This is why tabi socks were invented.

By: StickyCarpet

StickyCarpet — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:22:57 -0800

You have to kind of admire the big "fuck you" That's how I feel about those hats that are umbrellas. Ever try one? Those things are damn practical. These will be consolation for that sad day when I realize I am finally and irretrievably off the market.

By: ND¢

ND¢ — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:28:26 -0800

So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay? Hello. My name is ND¢ and I . . . wear socks with crocs. And I'm not even an old man, I turned 30 in December. I have that same beige pair that Bush was wearing in that photo and I wear them with white tube socks. And I don't mean I wear them around the house either. I wear them out to movies, to friend's houses, social functions. T, Polo or button-up shirt, pair of jeans and socks with crocs. That is like my go to outfit from autumn to late spring. What can I say? They are comfortable. Sometimes it is too cold for just crocs. And I am married. I don't have to look good anymore or impress anyone. You don't like the way my shoes look? Well fuck you. If someone is the type of person who judges others based on their footwear then I don't care what that person thinks of me anyway. Part of getting older is letting go of this need for other's approval, especially strangers. So here's a nod to the guys on this website from me. We are brothers. We just don't give a fuck.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:51:45 -0800

I'm surprised that so many people can't understand something so simple. This isn't about "fashion", per se. It's about contradiction. Sandals are for keeping cool. Socks are for keeping warm. They do not go together. It would be like wearing mittens with a tank top. Would that attract laughs and ridicule? Probably. This can all be solved quite easily. Men should not wear sandals. Ever. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Between dock shoes, sneakers, dress shoes, and boots (motorcycle, hiking, or cowboy), all your needs should be taken care of. Women should wear sandals all the time, with no socks, unless: 1) they are engaged in athletic activity, and therefore sneakers 2) it is snowing, and therefore should wear boots 3) they are fly fishing, harvesting cranberries, or working in a slaughterhouse, when rubber hip-waders would be appropriate See? Simple.

By: Stynxno

Stynxno — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:04:30 -0800

Wait. People are actually defending socks with sandals? And you actually can look yourself in the mirror when you say that? Lets face it - if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer in the utmost from having to see you walking down the street and noticing that you care not for the world or even yourself. Looking bad is not a defensible decision - it's a decision that should be mocked and ridiculed to be as selfish as stealing money from a homeless person's charity cup. People can justify any ridiculous behavior; that doesn't necessarily mean that your behavior should be accepted. For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN. It's not that hard.

By: zennie

zennie — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:04:49 -0800

I do actually wear sandals all the time, with no socks. All winter, I have been putting up with exclamations of "aren't your feet cold?"

By: captaincrouton

captaincrouton — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:13:12 -0800

While we're on the subject of retarded footwear can we please spend some time dissing uggs? They're not slush+salt proof. And there are lots of very comfy winter boots out there that can satisfy your need to wear ugly things on your feet while keeping them nice and dry. and ynoxas, attempting to prescribe the footwear of women is probably not a safe thing to do. eek.

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:14:08 -0800

I would like to encourage people, in equal measure, to turn off the tv and set fire to fashion magazines (but not, however tempting it may be, fashion writers). It's not that hard. Also, although I don't own any sandals, they would show off more of these socks so now I'm contemplating the possibility.

By: ThePinkSuperhero

ThePinkSuperhero — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:16:17 -0800

My father loves Crocs- has many pairs, including a pair that's orange and more than one pair with the laces on top. I can't recall if he wears them with socks, but that's probably because he lives in Florida and I don't travel there when it's cold (cold for Florida, which is, ya know, under 60). I bet he would, though, and he would probably make it look cool, too, because that's the kind of dude he is. I must say, I can't get all that worked up about socks with sandals. This is because comfortable shoes are my fashion kryptonite. I own Uggs (fake from Payless, because I'm cheap), I own Crocs (again, fake from Target, because I'm cheap), and I have no shame- well, I have a little shame, but not enough to stop wearing them because comfortable shoes are where it's at.

By: ND¢

ND¢ — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:17:20 -0800

For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN. That is absolutely the dumbest sentence I have ever read, and I read Metafilter!

By: ssg

ssg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:20:12 -0800

Lets face it - if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer in the utmost from having to see you walking down the street and noticing that you care not for the world or even yourself. Conversely, you are displaying an amazing amount of goodwill towards your fellow man. For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN. These things are not for learning.

By: Parasite Unseen

Parasite Unseen — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:24:31 -0800

Every single one of the guys on that website have a perfectly valid reason for wearing socks with sandals: ingrown toenails. I used to get ingrown toenails that the most pro-waterboarding psychopath wouldn't in his most sadistic fantasies dream of inflicting on "enemy combatants". For a while, I wore sandals to help alleviate the pressure (sometimes with socks, sometimes not). Invariably, some careless soul would step on my foot, and then I'd be trailing blood all over the place (bad) or walking around in bloodsoaked socks (worse). I eventually decided that it just wasn't worth it, and bought some steel-toed boots. After a couple of months of not being constantly aggrevated by a lack of protection, my toes healed to the point where I could just trim my nails properly (the definition of "properly" to someone who suffers from ingrown toenails being far different from that of the general public) and my problem ceased. The thought of getting ingrown toenails again is bad, but I can't even bring myself to contemplate going the socks-and-sandals route with them again.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:37:08 -0800

Sandals are for keeping cool. You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. I weep for you. Sandals are about comfort. Socks are about comfort. Comfort is about comfort.

By: comiddle

comiddle — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:41:36 -0800

Birkensocks.

By: Stynxno

Stynxno — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:45:41 -0800

Conversely, you are displaying an amazing amount of goodwill towards your fellow man. Nothing in my comment mentions my displaying goodwill towards my fellow man. Everything in my comment is combating people's defensive nature about how they look and what they wear. Clothes do not make a person who they are but they are, for some reason, a good way to show people how defensive and complacent with mediocraity they can be. Unless you're a hermit or a monk, when you step outside, you are entering into the world and participating in the community around you. Dressing poorly is a reflection of how you view the community around you. These things are not for learning. Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow.

By: zennie

zennie — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:45:43 -0800

You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. I weep for you. Tell it, my brother.

By: katillathehun

katillathehun — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:59:46 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos. ...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible!

By: ssg

ssg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:00:26 -0800

Stynxno: TV is for a) entertainment and b) selling stuff. Are you are so far down the rabbit hole that you truly "suffer in the utmost" when you see someone break the rules that TV has laid out for you?

By: dersins

dersins — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:12:13 -0800

No, he's not. He's just trolling, trying to stir up shit because he finds it amusing to do so.

By: SteveInMaine

SteveInMaine — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:23:50 -0800

You know somebody who wears socks with his sandals(nsfw)? 'Nuff said.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:26:26 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos. ...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible! posted by katillathehun at 10:59 AM on March 13 [+] [!] First, those little frilly numbers with the lace around the top don't count as socks. They are lingerie. Second, while I wouldn't get upset over the stilettos, I think the canonical footwear choice for the schoolgirl outfit is saddle oxfords. No? Related story... on my very last day of undergrad, taking my very last final, which was Russian, a girl that sat on the front row, always fairly modestly dressed, came in wearing something straight out of a Van Halen video (I don't feel tardy). Belly button showing white top, TINY plaid skirt, and some lace tights that came up right above the knee, but below the tiny skirt, and some black patent pumps. Yes, I remember this in detail even though it was many years ago. I assume her goal was to blow the concentration of half the class, and therefore blow the grading curve.

By: redyaky

redyaky — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:26:55 -0800

socks + sandals = shoes - socks Does that mean that shoes = sandals + 2 socks ?

By: docpops

docpops — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:28:44 -0800

Dressing poorly is a reflection of how you view the community around you. Making sweeping generalized statements that reflect your opinion alone but which allude to more objective evidence may indicate a personality disorder.

By: Unicorn on the cob

Unicorn on the cob — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:08 -0800

I automatically associate men who wear socks and sandals with the men in my life that have worn socks with sandals; for the most part, they were cheap, lazy and gross, and yes, in that order. Defend it all you want to me, but I will never, EVER find it attractive, cute, funny, or anything other than repulsive to a degree of N. If I were single and a potential suitor admitted to ever wearing socks with sandals on purpose, I would not date that person. As a woman, one of the things that truly matters to me is how a man dresses for himself; I look at his choice of clothing not only for its style alone but the way he dresses for different occasions. The same goes for his shoes. It's important to me. That being said, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, and I respect others' rights to wear whatever they want. I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief. After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? Because to me, it's the same thing. Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed.

By: docpops

docpops — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:47 -0800

Esquire Magazine controls my thoughts.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:31:27 -0800

if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos. "Yes, I have a third nipple growing out of my cheek and that horn needs a trimmin', but hey, check out my nice slacks!"

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:35:21 -0800

These things are not for learning. Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow. Fashion is for selling clothes, and it is not the same thing as style. Style transcends fashion; it doesn't require you to read magazines and buy new clothes every season. It's entirely possible to buy fashionable clothes and still look like crap; and stylish people can wear clothes that are completely out of date and still look comfortable, sleek, and confident. Is it possible for some guy to wear socks and sandals with style? I think so*, but this site wouldn't be that much fun if it showed men looking good in socks and sandals. * I'm skeptical. I'm not ruling it out, though.

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:35:36 -0800

After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? ...yes?

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:38:37 -0800

This thread is a litmus test.

By: Free word order!

Free word order! — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:42:37 -0800

This is like religious people discussing about what kind of women wear miniskirts. Your cultural associations may look like bigotry to other cultures.

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:45:12 -0800

After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? ...yes? Yeah, that's... that's pretty sexy, is what that is.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:47:28 -0800

Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed. I completely disagree. There's nothing more un-sexy than someone who looks uncomfortable in whatever they are wearing. Women who can't manage high heels do not look hot tottering and lurching all over the place. However, a woman sprinting down the street in her pumps to catch a bus looks pretty damn cool. If you can't do the things you need to do in the clothes you wear, something is wrong with your choices. That doesn't mean you have to wear unattractive clothes- comfort vs. style is a false dichotomy. Also: garter belts are way more comfortable than tights.

By: Herodios

Herodios — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:50:03 -0800

"Mr. Romo, I must admit that I'm puzzled. You hipsters claim to be such relaxed free spirits, yet your rules for social behaviour are even more set, tight, and rigid than those of square society." -- Del Close -

By: casarkos

casarkos — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:50:41 -0800

Dressing well is not "rules that TV has laid out". I don't need TV or a fashion mag to know that I will make a significantly worse impression on the people around me if I'm wearing stained gray baggy sweatpants and a ratty frayed tanktop rather than clothes which fit neatly and go well with each other. I don't think it's shallow to be aware of and take an interest in how I am visually presenting myself to the rest of the world, if I'm going to be an active participant in the world at all. On preview, oneirodynia totally nails it. TV is selling fashion. I'm talking about style. The problem with socks and sandals together is that the socks say you want your feet covered, but the sandals say you don't care if they're unprotected. However, in the interest of fairness, I have to note that certain venues are starting to push the look for women

By: schyler523

schyler523 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:54:25 -0800

I never wore sandals and socks together, but only because i thought it wasn't comfortable. If it was comfortable for me i probably would have. I don't give a shit what is fashionable...

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:57:56 -0800

I must admit this bugs me just a little. And in Seattle it's all around. It's not a fashion statement here. It's a statement of political alignment. It says "Yes. You can relax. I mean you no harm. I am one of those types of people. Here. Have a tofu bean-curd brownie." Remove the $250 dollar Patagonia fleece, take the "You can't hug your kids with nuclear arms" bumper sticker and Kayak rack off your 1982 Volvo. Please. Allow me to discover the mystery that is you. While I usually dress in jeans and whatever random thing isn't in a pile on the floor. A couple days per week I at least try to wear a few things with some flair. Try to shake it up now and then. So. We have a tradition. On my birthday my wife takes me to Barney's and I am forbidden from looking at any price tags. Literally. If I did I'm sure I would shit. I buy one outfit. The fact is well made clothes tend to last longer and remain in style longer. Consequently I own fewer clothes than most my peers. I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos. You must never have been to a major metropolitan city anywhere in the world. We just came back from Paris in January and I spend a couple week in New York in September. Those people look good. Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm.

By: Unicorn on the cob

Unicorn on the cob — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:02:00 -0800

Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed. I completely disagree. Oneirodynia, so you're saying comfort should be the ONLY discerning factor in how you look every day? I will certainly agree with you that different people are comfortable wearing different things, and that what is painful or uncomfortable to some is second nature to others. We've all got a friend who runs across cobblestone streets in 7-inch stilettos; it's just not for me (though I secretly envy those girls myself). All I am saying is, that if I were a man, I'd be terribly uncomfortable wearing socks and sandals in public. I don't think we are necessarily disagreeing here are all; we just have different tastes. I won't argue that garter belts are less comfortable than tights; I will however argue that not every woman looks good in garters, and some women prefer NEITHER tights nor garter belts, as that is the MOST comfortable, at least for me!

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:02:23 -0800

You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. What kind of idiot does that?

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:00 -0800

There are times when your comfort is less important that social etiquette. For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours. Hey. Why can't I wear my fuzzy bear jammies to your wedding? I have attended job interviews and meetings with major executives where people show up in ratty jeans and t-shirts. I think our public and professional spaces have become unduly polluted by this obsession for comfort. To our detriment. I don't think people need to wear dinner tuxes 24/7 but you could put on a nice pair of slacks and decent shoes when you go out to dinner, mmm'kay? This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions - nobody should fool them selves about that (and I think to a degree it is driven by the fact that Americans are more obese and require looser clothing). Take the price and insane marketing of tennis shoes and "athletic wear" for example of comfort being simply another consumer marketing gimmick.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:30 -0800

Oneirodynia, so you're saying comfort should be the ONLY discerning factor in how you look every day? Certainly not. I'm saying there's no dichotomy there, and I strongly believe that a huge part of personal style comes from people looking comfortable in the choices they've made. You can't by that, and that's why "fashion" can't be counted on to somehow make people stylish.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:52 -0800

by = buy

By: docpops

docpops — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:21:59 -0800

tk - I think this is a problem in the NW moreso than other places. As much as I enjoy the laid back attitude about garments - borne partly out of the changeability of our weather patterns - I too become dispirited at the sight of people showing up for special events, fine dining, shows, etc., looking like seven-year-olds. Good with the bad, as it were, I guess.

By: Unicorn on the cob

Unicorn on the cob — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:22:14 -0800

O, it appears that you and I agree on style and fashion, then. In general. Still think sandals + socks = gross, but love on you!

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:22:56 -0800

For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours. This is what happens when people believe style and comfort are two different things. I have the best pair of pleated knit palazzo pants that feel like pyjamas, but get me complements wherever I go. Those are my flying clothes- they're crisply pleated but cozy, don't wrinkle, don't require a belt, and look great with a slim tee and a well cut fuzzy hooded sweater and a scarf. I can get off a plane in Berlin and not feel like a complete bum if I want to head immediately out on the town, in spite of having slept in my clothes.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:28:57 -0800

Still think sandals + socks = gross, but love on you! Me too, mostly, but I believe there's some guy in the world that can pull it off. He probably lives in a house he built himself using japanese joinery, wrenches on ducati bikes, and used to be in a punk band but now leads three day mushroom hunts in the forest. At the very least, he'd have to have a appreciation of somehow eking harmony out of conflicting elements with grace and humor.

By: Wild_Eep

Wild_Eep — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:29:42 -0800

Heeeey, waitaminit. >:-(

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:36:44 -0800

BTW, at a big party at my old house, one of my friends was in awe that his musical hero, Jack Dangers, was just casually hanging out on our shabby couch in his black socks and sandals.

By: ssg

ssg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:41:44 -0800

casarkos: I don't think it's shallow to be aware of and take an interest in how I am visually presenting myself to the rest of the world, if I'm going to be an active participant in the world at all. I'm certainly not arguing that it is shallow, nor is anyone else in the thread, I don't think. There is nothing wrong with being stylish (or even fashionable, if you so desire). What is wrong is believing that being unfashionable (according to whatever standard) is somehow a manifestation of hatred for others. Some people want to be stylish and others don't care as much. I'd suggest that a little live and let live could go a long way. Arguing that others have to dress a certain way not to insult you seems like a short step from arguing that women have to wear skirts and high heels for your enjoyment or conversely that women have to wear burkas (not that I think you are advancing this argument, casarkos).

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:43:14 -0800

I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos. >>Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm. Six in one, half dozen in the other. We're just looking at the half-empty glass from opposite generalized ends. ...would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? Yes. Yes I would.

By: Unicorn on the cob

Unicorn on the cob — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:45:22 -0800

JACK DANGERS NO NO NO NO I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia!

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:51:34 -0800

After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? If it were my beloved? Christ, yes. Like the fist of an angry God yes. Give me an honest, open smile and a threadbare old nightshirt over fancy-ass garters and a fake sultry who-farted look any day. I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief. And unless you're in a position where your irrational prejudices can hurt me, I don't give a good goddam what you think about how I dress.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:06:19 -0800

JACK DANGERS NO NO NO NO I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia! Heh. I forgave him for though, because he was really interested in our indoor pond and even fed our turtle. An all around genuinely nice and talented guy. I just avoided looking at his feet for the rest of the night.

By: jrossi4r

jrossi4r — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:09:46 -0800

It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos. But that's a central component of the ZZTop makeover!

By: captaincrouton

captaincrouton — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:25:24 -0800

Argh. Just because stuff is comfy doesn't mean it has to be ugly. There are these newfangled airy shoes and they have light mesh in non-structural places. They're even designed to drain water out of when they get wet just like sandals. They're not that expensive. And you can wear socks with them and wear them to work and not be a total dork. I think the "I don't care about what i look like so deal with it" crowd is missing a point that perhaps they haven't considered. Not caring what you look like at all up to the point of looking totally different from the rest of the population takes nearly the same amount of effort as caring enough to fit in. The reason for that is that everyday interactions tend to take longer because the commercial-dazed masses think you are a crazy nut and treat you worse. You're gonna wait longer for crappier service just because of the way you look. The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher. And as a bonus they'd get better service.

By: Catfry

Catfry — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:50:04 -0800

Socks under sandals achieve some basic objectives; The sock provides padding and facilitates moderate movement between the skin and the sandal, alleviating problems like strap marks and chafing. Furthermore, the sock soaks up sweat from areas where the foot have no direct access to air, and distributes it to ventilated areas, leading to a more evenly cooled foot, and alleviating problems like blisters and chafing through overheating.

By: Fezboy!

Fezboy! — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:59:38 -0800

I will sometimes rock the socks + sandals but only when sporting the more outrageous specimens in my weird sock collection. Shoes + long pants don't give these fine examples of suburban kitsch the kind of exposure they require. I always felt the same way about underoos8212;which I always wanted but was never allowed to have...probably because my parents knew I'd be wearing them sans over-garments for full effect.

By: stevis23

stevis23 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:29:24 -0800

You're gonna wait longer for crappier service just because of the way you look. Then, at the end of the day, judgemental jackasses wonder why they don't get very nice tips.

By: Pastabagel

Pastabagel — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:46:53 -0800

You know, I'm scanning through this website, and I'm wondering how the hell it comes to pass that there are pictures of random guys in their underwear all over the internet. How does that happen? How do people just randomly lose control of very private stuff like that? Somewhere there's a guy randomly surfing, who comes across this site and sees a picture of himself from ten years ago, all handlebar mustache and pasty skin. His shoulders slump and he throws his hands up and in desperation says, "Aww come on! How did this site get my picture now?"

By: Pastabagel

Pastabagel — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:53:36 -0800

By the way, in case anyone gets to the end of this site and needs a little more insight into the dapper styling of the modern American male, look no further - MulletJunky.com.

By: slimepuppy

slimepuppy — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:56:53 -0800

This thread is great. Several mefites outing themselves as shallow fashionistas. Awesome. It's almost like having a normal prejudice, but there's an extra level of sadness to it when you consider the roots of it and how miserable these people must be in their day to day lives to think about shit like this.

By: dersins

dersins — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:03:45 -0800

Several mefites outing themselves as shallow fashionistas. I think it's important to note that, while what you say is true, it is not necessary to be a fashionista of any type or depth to be simultaneously amused and appalled by people wearing sandals with socks. I mean, they're sandals for fuck's sake. With socks.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:30:38 -0800

I don't think there is anything "wrong" with wearing socks and sandals, but I'd be mad at myself if I was out like that and stepped in a minor puddle and I had to fucking squish around for the rest of the day, a wet sock is a terrible thing. Also, it looks a little weird, just from a design/outfit perspective, but I think people should dress however they like, with the exception that they need to wear at least a loin cloth/speedo when they are going to be doing any sitting down in public situations so that they aren't going to be getting their ass all over everything. I have been known on a wicked dry summer day to wear shower slides, white socks pulled up high and long shorts for a sort of urban scumbag/cholo effect while I smoke cigarettes and drink barcardi out of a styrofoam cup on my stoop, so who am I to judge anyway?

By: ThePinkSuperhero

ThePinkSuperhero — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:34 -0800

Not caring what you look like at all up to the point of looking totally different from the rest of the population takes nearly the same amount of effort as caring enough to fit in. So true. The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher. I am finding this to be so true, as well. Like I said before, shoes are my fashion kryptonite, and I still have to go into Payless any time I walk by, and I often buy a pair of shoes that turn out to be cheap feet shredders. Working on not doing that, and spending that money on nice shoes that won't totally tear up my feet.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:15:08 -0800

If you're shallow enough to be that concerned about what I'm wearing on my feet, I guess I don't particularly care what you think.

By: paulsc

paulsc — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:25:54 -0800

I find that a bright pair of argyles in my Tevas so enrages the general public, that most forget to make mention of my stinky cigars, sweat stained Panama and au naturel butt crack display. Had to tailor 'em myself, but the Bermuda shorts I altered to get a waistband up under my armpits in front, and 2 inches of hairy butt crack in back, with a Velcro cigar pocket on the outside of each leg, have totally been the foundation on my Florida manrobe. The rusting Dittohead and McCain 2000 buttons, American flag and "Support Our Police" shoulder patches, along with the hat mounted fishing lures and coontail flair items I change for seasonal effect, are just added insult. But none of this really works without socks under my sandals to pull the ensemble together. The slightly sick, gobsmacked look on speechless hipster faces, particularly as enter/exit my pickup truck? Priceless.

By: dersins

dersins — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:29:36 -0800

paulsc is back?

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:33:48 -0800

Oh. You Mefites crack me up. A huge portion of the people in this thread so offended about being judge by others over what they wear have no problem judging people by the music they listen to or the books they like. Pull the other one Metafilter. Pull it HARD!

By: zennie

zennie — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:52:58 -0800

Hm. Reading through... how did "I wear socks with my sandals" become, "I don't care how I look"? Does pulling on loafers take more effort than pulling on sandals? If you go through those pictures, there enough examples of people who look quite civilized. You can wear such a combination and present yourself well, just as you can wear as suit and tie and look like a slob. This thread is reminding me of the AskMe question about mixing patterns in which several people advised the the asker not to even try. Honestly, no one's ever dashing without a dash of daring.

By: bwg

bwg — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:58:13 -0800

I can get off a plane in Berlin and not feel like a complete bum if I want to head immediately out on the town, in spite of having slept in my clothes. But did the girl next to you look like Axl Rose?

By: jrochest

jrochest — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:24:25 -0800

Gentlemen, if your feet sweat so badly that you cannot wear shoes, consider a trip to the doctor: you may have a bacterial infection. And if you find that your feet get grubby and sweaty after a day in sandals, you might try washing them.

By: ersatz

ersatz — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:37:41 -0800

And I'm not so sure about this being purely a UK / Pacific NW thing. Only a hunch, but I'm thinking a lot of Germans and Dutch in these pics. Yep, Germans for sure. Next up: suspenders, belts, and dudes! Suspenders, as in garters?

By: winks007

winks007 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:50:48 -0800

Fuck em'...It's your choice man. You rock what you want but - please give me the same respect.

By: orange swan

orange swan — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:13:30 -0800

This post was a much-needed dose of silly. Socks and sandals, while never being a bona fide great idea, can at least not detract from a guy's attractiveness. It's all about the totality. Case in point, Christ, what an asshole's link. Cute, rumpled boy next door in jeans and a t-shirt who's probably just come over to your backyard for a minute to shyly yet eagerly ask you if you want to go to a friend's party with him tomorrow night? Like you'd say no.

By: Meatbomb

Meatbomb — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:26:00 -0800

Wow, seems like there is a lot of confusion about what is acceptable. I wear socks with sandals, in the time just before or just after the season when it is warm enough to wear sandals only. And if I'm doing it, you know it's 100% halal. Next time anyone gives you grief, you tell them that Meatbomb says it's OK. So it is written, so it shall be done.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:30:38 -0800

I dress poorly because I'm ugly regardless, and it's cheaper. I sure don't wear socks and sandals, though.

By: owhydididoit

owhydididoit — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:48:13 -0800

Noid-hugger dude with the orange socks can wear whatever he wants.

By: From Bklyn

From Bklyn — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:26:44 -0800

By: stet

stet — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:27:32 -0800

paulsc!

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:52:54 -0800

Listen to Meatbomb, dude knows from footwear.

By: captaincrouton

captaincrouton — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34:10 -0800

Then, at the end of the day, judgemental jackasses wonder why they don't get very nice tips. Yah but you've already received crappy service that took longer. Unless you tip very very generously tipping has minimal effect on your service experience when you are there infrequently but not wearing socks and sandals might. There are also lots of service places that don't accept tips. Like the post office.

By: jkaczor

jkaczor — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:10:56 -0800

For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours. Ok - next, flight I will drip sweat all over you - or slowly fill up the aisle with stench over the course of 5-6 hours. Betchya you'd be all smarmy in a post about smelly people, wouldn't you? It's bad enough one has to be tortured every step of the way onto the plane, strapped to a seat that is already cramped - now one needs to be "fashionable"? Ah.... fashionistas. The fact that you are soooo offended by how someone else chooses to dress, what exactly does that say about you? Shallow. This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions No it's not. I have more important/enjoyable things to think about than carefully choosing what to wear. As long as I am not too cold or too hot, I could really care less if I offend your eyes. I did not see you opening your wallet to pay for my clothing choices. I'll give you a line from a book (10p to the first response with source/author): "My body is the station wagon I drive my brain around in". Oh - BTW - I find men who wear socks & sandals both shocking and amusing - but then again, I'm allowed to - I'm part of the club.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:17:57 -0800

microserfs. "I feel like my body is a station wagon in which I drive my brain around." No dangling participles for Coupland, nosiree!

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:31:55 -0800

Next Seattle meetup, S&S required, tuxes optional.

By: telstar

telstar — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:12:26 -0800

I only started wearing socks with sandals when I found out it was considered outre*. Pretty comfy. *yeah this is at least five years old.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:41:15 -0800

...uh. crap. split infinitive.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:33:32 -0800

I can get even smaller than Dave Faris!