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March 15, 2008 10:44 AM   Subscribe

Usually, movies based on serial killers are made long after the crimes are committed. This could be the first film inspired by someone who didn't begin killing serially until more than a decade after the movie was made.
posted by Kibbutz (39 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite

 
To bring this full circle, that story would make a great screenplay.
posted by tula at 10:49 AM on March 15, 2008


creepy...
posted by schyler523 at 10:54 AM on March 15, 2008


The annoying way the links are set up in the post makes me want to scream bloody murder.
posted by KokuRyu at 10:54 AM on March 15, 2008


A new movie is practically guaranteed by this headline: Hack Saw, Porn, Needles, Bong Found In Hilton's Van
posted by msalt at 10:56 AM on March 15, 2008


The annoying way the links are set up in the post makes me want to scream bloody murder

You're welcome. Would it help if I noted that the movie in question is currently ranked #30 in VHS tape sales at Amazon?
posted by Kibbutz at 10:57 AM on March 15, 2008


Did you say #30? Oh, I take it all back now. Linking to every word in your post is great!
posted by KokuRyu at 11:15 AM on March 15, 2008


Well, it's clear what needs to be done. Just as young people are now routinely expelled from school and interrogated by law enforcement for writing stories that portray the killing of classmates, producers and writers of slasher films should have their employment terminated (guild/union membership revoked) and should spend a few hours with local law enforcement and the FBI.

Thinking about murder leads to murder.
posted by mistersquid at 11:27 AM on March 15, 2008


The annoying way the links are set up in the post makes me want to scream bloody murder.

Yeah, that annoys me too. You can't tell which randomly linked word is the actual substance of the post rather than ancillary information. Substance over style, man.

Just as young people are now routinely expelled from school and interrogated by law enforcement for writing stories that portray the killing of classmates

God, I hate that shit. If they had done that when I was in school, I would have been locked up for life. I had to write a compulsory journal in 8th grade English, and being a smartass, I would write shit like "today me and my murderous Satanic cult sacrificed an infant to the dark lord Beelzebub. The high priest tripped and spilled a whole unholy chalice of Christian infant blood, it was hilarious. Then I went to Denny's and ate a Rooty Tooty Fresh n' Fruity." Back then, I just got points for creativity. Of course, I also had a notebook confiscated because I had a drawing of the Dead Milkmen logo in it with the legend "Smokin' Banana Peels" and got a Talking To about eeeeviiil druuugggss, because that was the demon then.
posted by DecemberBoy at 11:35 AM on March 15, 2008 [3 favorites]


MOVIEmeter: ^ 333% since last week. Why?
posted by Flashman at 11:50 AM on March 15, 2008


A new movie is practically guaranteed by this headline: Hack Saw, Porn, Needles, Bong Found In Hilton's Van

Especially if it had been Paris Hilton.
posted by scody at 11:58 AM on March 15, 2008


Especially if it had been Paris Hilton.

I just got a visual of Paris Hilton attempting to dispose of a body.
posted by louche mustachio at 12:14 PM on March 15, 2008


Whoa. I have a funny feeling his serial killing may well have begun before the film, though.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 12:20 PM on March 15, 2008


The review featured on the IMDB page right now is a little strange.

It starts off with: This is the wrong way to promote harmony between genders.
posted by ODiV at 12:27 PM on March 15, 2008


Can someone tell me which randomly-linked word is the substance of the post? Thanks!
posted by trip and a half at 12:52 PM on March 15, 2008


Skip down to "someone who didn't begin killing serially"; those are the only necessary links. The others are just IMDb links to pad out the post. Bad format—after three years and 15 posts you should be able to do a better job.
posted by languagehat at 1:00 PM on March 15, 2008


Movies about serial killing can give serial killing lessons. Posting to MeFi can can generate posting lessons.
posted by Cranberry at 1:09 PM on March 15, 2008 [1 favorite]


Thank you for the constructive criticism, and I'll try to do better next time.
posted by Kibbutz at 1:32 PM on March 15, 2008


Kibbutz, don't encourage them.
posted by milarepa at 1:51 PM on March 15, 2008


No, no, it's the only way I'll learn. And when they're done with me, they can move on to Effigy 2000, Navelgazer, bassjump, divabat, msalt, hadjiboy, and several hundred other posters who apparently didn't get the memo.
posted by Kibbutz at 1:55 PM on March 15, 2008


When attorney-turned-movie producer Samuel Rael decided he wanted to make a film about a serial killer in 1995, it was former legal client Gary Michael Hilton who he says came up with the plot... Rael claims Hilton thought it would be a good idea to have the killer be out in the woods. "Go ahead and let some beautiful women out in the woods, and then they could be hunted down like prey," Rael says Hilton told him.

Come up with the plot? Yeah, 'cause this doesn't sound like any other slasher flick I've ever seen.
posted by O Blitiri at 2:30 PM on March 15, 2008


So life imitates art, then? Makes you wonder what drove him over the edge to actually do it or if he'd done things like that before... do people just crop up and become serial killers at the drop of a hat? Gee, maybe I need to watch Criminal Minds more to find out.
posted by Marie Mon Dieu at 2:35 PM on March 15, 2008


Am I the only one that previews the URL before clicking a link? If the link goes to imdb or wiki, I can generally skip it and find the news article that's gonna contain the meat of the post. It's hardly rocket surgery, people.
posted by slimepuppy at 3:02 PM on March 15, 2008 [16 favorites]


Rocket Surgery.

Yep, that's goin' on a t-shirt.
posted by eclectist at 3:14 PM on March 15, 2008 [1 favorite]


Hey, slimepuppy, what the hell? No giving away the smart people secrets to the plebes! Next thing you know they'll be reading articles of substance and learning things. Our entire society will fall apart.
posted by Caduceus at 3:15 PM on March 15, 2008


Metafilter: It's hardly rocket surgery, people.
posted by CitizenD at 3:23 PM on March 15, 2008 [2 favorites]


If they had done that when I was in school, I would have been locked up for life. I had to write a compulsory journal in 8th grade English, and being a smartass, I would write shit like "today me and my murderous Satanic cult sacrificed an infant to the dark lord Beelzebub. The high priest tripped and spilled a whole unholy chalice of Christian infant blood, it was hilarious. Then I went to Denny's and ate a Rooty Tooty Fresh n' Fruity."

I would have locked you up too! Everyone knows the Rooty Tooty Fresh n' Fruity comes from IHOP, not Denny's!
posted by Rev. Syung Myung Me at 4:21 PM on March 15, 2008


MetaFilter: It's hardly rocket surgery.

Had to be done.
posted by mwhybark at 6:27 PM on March 15, 2008


D'oh.
posted by mwhybark at 6:27 PM on March 15, 2008


It would suck to be a chick wanting to go for a nice, relaxing walk in the bush and having to WATCH HER ASS THE WHOLE TIME, lest she get murdered.

And what slimepuppy said. Only a complete moran would click on one of the imdb links first up.
posted by uncanny hengeman at 8:01 PM on March 15, 2008


Only a complete moran would fail to use spell check.
posted by KokuRyu at 8:16 PM on March 15, 2008


Only a complete moran would fail to use spell check.

Time to get with the program, KokuRyu moran.

http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&q=brain+moran&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
posted by uncanny hengeman at 8:28 PM on March 15, 2008


Wow, Metafilter seems really really cranky of late. Is there some sort of mass PMT event going on or somesuch? Surely there's a SLYT floating around to wash off some of the snark.

It would suck to be a chick wanting to go for a nice, relaxing walk in the bush and having to WATCH HER ASS THE WHOLE TIME, lest she get murdered.

Sure does. And the worst bit is where it's emphasised how much it's our responsibility as women to avoid getting killed by staying out of the woods. As if the Hiltons out there are not in any way responsible for themselves.


Marie Mon Dieu: I would be very surprised to learn that the killings took place after the movie was made. I think the current theory is that repeat offenders of this nature generally have a long development time, with a combination of biological and environmental factors at play. Crimelab have a heap of pretty straightforward pieces on it. They also have a good spread of other serial killers.
posted by Jilder at 9:22 PM on March 15, 2008


He's quite old to be starting out as a serial killer, for what that's worth.
posted by Scram at 10:42 PM on March 15, 2008


If I was working this case, I'd wanna be taking a look at this lawyer who represented him in the past. How many lawyers pal up with their homeless, sociopathic clients, to the extent of having them drop around to your house for a shower whenever they happen to come back from a few days in the woods?

"I'll tell you what, my old arsonist, fraudster chum. Why don't you pop around to my house next time you've been hunting, and you can tell me what you think it would be like to hunt down some beautiful, vulnerable poontang in the woods" --- fap, fap, fap -- "and if the story is hot.. sorry, good enough" -- fap, fap, fap -- "perhaps I'll put up the dough to try and produce an actual movie" -- ohmigod, i'm coming, i'm coming, you filthy, horny brute you -- "based on your fantasies.. sorry, ideas. How does that sound to you?"

"What, money? No, there won't be any money, but you owe me for all that legal representation, you nasty, psychopathic fuck, you..." --- ahhhhhh.....

/Lights cigarette
posted by PeterMcDermott at 11:46 PM on March 15, 2008


"Some people calls it a Kaiser Blade, I calls it a Sling Blade."
posted by PeterMcDermott at 12:01 AM on March 16, 2008


Ay! The skeletal remains found by a hunter were in my HOME TOWN. *shudder*
posted by Theresa at 3:01 AM on March 16, 2008


So life imitates art, then?

Not the happiest occasion for Oscar to be right.
posted by ersatz at 5:48 PM on March 16, 2008


Rocket Surgery.

Yep, that's goin' on a t-shirt.


Fletcher thought so too
posted by dubold at 9:31 AM on March 17, 2008


I think it far more likely that both the movie and Hiltons....escapades are both based on this fellow, or this fellow. Both Hansen and Bundy were chasing, torturing and killing women in the woods years before that "film" was made.
posted by Megafly at 11:47 AM on March 17, 2008


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