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	<title>Comments on: Ten and two ... whoo-hoo!</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:58:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Ten and two ... whoo-hoo!</title>
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		<description>Live from her minivan, it&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeannietate.com&quot;&gt;The Jeannie Tate Show&lt;/a&gt;! Everyone&apos;s favorite soccer mom runs errands around town with the help of special guests like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iw1uEVaQpA&amp;feature=related&quot;&gt;Bill Hader&lt;/a&gt; (SNL), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHlCaDgfgDg&quot;&gt;Rashida Jones&lt;/a&gt; (The Office), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E-amvRNKKc&quot;&gt;Lonny Ross&lt;/a&gt; (30 Rock), and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p4PKxEHxGM&quot;&gt;Rob Riggle&lt;/a&gt; (The Daily Show). Of course, she&apos;s willing to leave the van behind to visit her heroines, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_VpEEYCq8&quot;&gt;Hillary&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfNH8Wv6izY&quot;&gt;Oprah&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/movies/features/videos/40617&quot;&gt;show&lt;/a&gt; was independently produced by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://newyork.ucbtheatre.com/performers/5683&quot;&gt;lovely&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haastyle.com/carey.php&quot;&gt;Maggie&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://themaggiecarey.com&quot;&gt;Carey&lt;/a&gt; and Second City/SNL vet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ugcdb.com/people/person.php?personID=953&quot;&gt;Liz&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1560199/&quot;&gt;Cackowski&lt;/a&gt; before being picked up by &lt;a href=&quot;http://marketingconversation.com/2007/09/11/warner-brothers-shows-faith-in-itself-and-its-future/&quot;&gt;Warner Brothers&lt;/a&gt;. 

Some say Jeannie&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://newszine.jou.ufl.edu/index.php?id=1734&quot;&gt;shoot first, market later&lt;/a&gt; webisode approach is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6541243.html&quot;&gt;future&lt;/a&gt; of entertainment. But it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2008/02/29/a_short_half_life_for_a_new_series/&quot;&gt;hasn&apos;t&lt;/a&gt; worked out for everyone so far.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the littlest brussels sprout</dc:creator>		<category>comedy</category>		<category>humor</category>		<category>internet</category>		<category>youtube</category>		<category>marketing</category>		<category>soccermom</category>		<category>talkshow</category>		<category>jeannietate</category>		<category>lizcackowski</category>		<category>maggiecarey</category>
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		<title>By: the littlest brussels sprout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056330</link>	
		<description>Can I just say that the Bill Hader episode is absolutely my favorite? I&apos;ve watched it about ten times (so far). I think I may have a problem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:58:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davebush</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056355</link>	
		<description>Actually laughed out loud several times watching the Bill Hader episode. Thumbs up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:13:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cazoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056401</link>	
		<description>Is she from UCB?  I recognize Aubrey, the actress who plays the daughter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:47:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056420</link>	
		<description>That was pretty good, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:08:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056423</link>	
		<description>Wow, that&apos;s &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; funny.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:11:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: not_on_display</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056443</link>	
		<description>&quot;I childproofed the house... but they still get in!&quot;

That&apos;s a winner right there.  The rest of it could be as dull as wonderbread, and I wouldn&apos;t care.  That one line had me hitting pause so I could stop laughing.  Way to go with the debut FPP.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:24:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tepidmonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056497</link>	
		<description>Delightful. I saw the Bill Hader one a long time ago but never remembered to check for new ones, so thanks for the post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:22:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cat Pie Hurts</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056501</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t even like Bill Hader, and I snorted many time.  Excellent!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:27:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056505</link>	
		<description>The acting was excellent-- the lead is very believable as some soul-less creature from the suburbs. That said:

&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;I&apos;m not suprised that there are SNL people involved because there&apos;s no lazier way to write sketch comedy than to frame your skit as a TV show.&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The ending accentuates the laziness. My first thought was that the writers were trying to hit me over the head with the &quot;her life sucks and the cheerfulness is just a veneer&quot; by having her husband caught flagrantly cheating in the parking lot of a store that she obviously patronizes regularly, but I think really they just couldn&apos;t figure out how to end it.&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;I&apos;m not surprised that there&apos;s someone from the American version of The Office involved, because that show excels at presenting a fixed filming scenario and ignoring it-- how can I believe it&apos;s a documentary when there are four different shots in a conversation and how can I believe it&apos;s a candid show shot with stationary cameras in a minivan when there are exterior shots?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

Too bad because as I said, the acting was excellent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:29:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bondcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056639</link>	
		<description>For chrissakes Curley, is there &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; joy in your world?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:47:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the littlest brussels sprout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056705</link>	
		<description>cazoo: Yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://newyork.ucbtheatre.com/performers/3831&quot;&gt;Aubrey Plaza&lt;/a&gt; is with UCB in New York.

Mayor Curley: My one requirement of comedy is that it be funny. As long as it&apos;s funny, I really don&apos;t care about stuff like the believability of a particular camera angle. Logistical absurdity often enhances the experience -- at least for me. 

Can you cite some examples of work that you think are not &quot;lazy&quot;? I&apos;m curious.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:47:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank Grimes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2056737</link>	
		<description>Wow, Jeannie&apos;s great. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/stickerbook&quot;&gt;Stickerbook&lt;/a&gt; (in the Bill Hader clip) played at UCB tonight and I forgot all about it. The Paul Rudd &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgsHV9FEJdU&quot;&gt;Pickup Artist&lt;/a&gt;&quot; that is mentioned in the &quot;shoot first, market later&quot; clip is also pretty funny.

The YouTube series nominees are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/ytawards07&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:38:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2057012</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;For chrissakes Curley, is there any joy in your world?&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah. I like lots of stuff. Even some sketch comedy. But this is lazy.

&lt;i&gt;Mayor Curley: My one requirement of comedy is that it be funny. As long as it&apos;s funny, I really don&apos;t care about stuff like the believability of a particular camera angle. Logistical absurdity often enhances the experience -- at least for me.&lt;/i&gt;

For me, it&apos;s irritating. If you&apos;re going to give me a premise, confine yourself to it. Otherwise, why bother?

&lt;i&gt;Can you cite some examples of work that you think are not &quot;lazy&quot;? I&apos;m curious.&lt;/i&gt;

I think even the best sketch comedy is occasionally lazy (&lt;i&gt;Flying Circus&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Mr. Show&lt;/i&gt;)-- but if you&apos;re only offering one recurring skit, you should try to avoid sketch comedy cliches, at least in the first episode.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:25:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70165/Ten-and-two-whoohoo#2058082</link>	
		<description>Taking a joke far past the point where it&apos;s funny, stretching a skit out until you&apos;re about ready to scream &quot;Yes, I get the friggin&apos; point, it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;[inherent underlying conceit of skit]&lt;/i&gt;!!!!!&quot; &amp;mdash; yes, I&apos;m very much not surprised this comes from SNL writers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:05:21 -0800</pubDate>
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