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	<title>Comments on: Magic crayon Physics - now in online flash form</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:54:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Magic crayon Physics - now in online flash form</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://magic.pen.fizzlebot.com/"&gt;Online Crayon Physics&lt;/a&gt; Flash version of stuff from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/69349/Students-Rewarded-for-Destroying-Productivity&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/62482/Metafilter-and-the-Purple-Crayon&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  No download needed (vs. prior posts) and totally addicting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:41:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>filmgeek</dc:creator>		<category>flash</category>		<category>crayon</category>		<category>physics</category>		<category>game</category>		<category>totallycool</category>		<category>freakinawesome</category>
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		<title>By: PhatLobley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071532</link>	
		<description>Fun. And cool music.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:54:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteelyDuran</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071549</link>	
		<description>Ugh! The &quot;feature&quot; which completes a polygon (for example a rectangle) is too aggressive. This makes meaningful play very difficult, because I keep winding up with trapezoids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:03:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteelyDuran</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071566</link>	
		<description>This is so blazingly, absurdly great!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:18:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: griphus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071574</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been waiting for it to come out in flash, thanks!

For us homebrew-running-capable DS owners there&apos;s also &lt;a href=&apos;http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2001&apos;&gt;Pocket Physics&lt;/a&gt;. Still in beta and a little buggy though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:22:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071582</link>	
		<description>iPhone. Want Now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:26:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: danb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071583</link>	
		<description>This is very cool. It seems like the perfect DS game, too; I&apos;ll have to find out about getting that homebrew thing going at some point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:27:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071589</link>	
		<description>Addicted already.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:30:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitizenD</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071603</link>	
		<description>damn you, filmgeek.  i just spent nearly 2 hours &quot;playing&quot; with this.  only i felt that i&apos;d only spent about, oh, say 20 minutes or so.

[me, tomorrow morning]  sorry, kids!  i don&apos;t have all your work graded today.  you can blame filmgeek.

&lt;small&gt;i&apos;ll also have you know that when i placed the periods in this comment, i half expected the last word to &quot;bounce&quot; a bit, and i was looking for a way to insert a triangle to keep the sentence from rolling backwards.  rassum frassum crayon physics.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:45:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacalata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071624</link>	
		<description>that&apos;s freaking awesome. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:59:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071688</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad that this is out in flash, because its a great idea and a great game, and I know this guy is going to be very successful.

However, I can&apos;t play it because it makes me feel utterly stupid.  It took me about a hundred tries to get Level 4 (because I&apos;m a stupid moron girl who doesn&apos;t understand science or gravity apparently) and now I don&apos;t want to play anymore, because failing those 100 times has left me feeling so .... stupid.

They needed some easier ones to start.  At least for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samuel Farrow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071694</link>	
		<description>Awesome, awesome game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:16:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Farrow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071712</link>	
		<description>Gracious. This is a hard little game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:33:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrzarquon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071717</link>	
		<description>i imagine this will be keeping me occupied for the better part f tomorrow at work.

Thanks..</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:39:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Item</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071735</link>	
		<description>Could someone please explain how to use the pins and hinges?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:57:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Item</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Item</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071737</link>	
		<description>Never mind - I bothered reading the instructions.  Great game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:59:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alex3005</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071768</link>	
		<description>one of my biggest realizations was that you&apos;re allowed to put pins and hinges on the red object itself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:31:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2071812</link>	
		<description>Unbelievably fun. I was startled the first time the red circle was replaced with a square. &quot;Magic Crayon Physics, you magnificent bastard!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:02:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072330</link>	
		<description>yeah, that red square one was amazing.  I actually built, using many many stapled together shapes, a claw to grab the square and rotate it up to the flag before I realized that you could actually staple a shape TO THE SQUARE.  

and the claw worked, too!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:00:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072333</link>	
		<description>but I&apos;ll be damned if I know how to get past level 13.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:01:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shmegegge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: garlic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072456</link>	
		<description>I feel the same way about 13... Doesn&apos;t seem to be space to counter weight up the hill, or space to hit the ball up the hill in one shot, and I can&apos;t hit it far enough to build a second bat either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:05:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072567</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m pushing a pushrod-and-stays strategy on 13 and am only halfway up, friction is causing diminishing returns.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:02:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: garlic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072570</link>	
		<description>finished! woo hoo!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:04:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>garlic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072571</link>	
		<description>garlic, how&apos;d you get past 13?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:05:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shmegegge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: garlic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072576</link>	
		<description>One of the things I figured out is that ALL connected pieces can swing through each other. also, connectors (and not their objects) can be erased.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:08:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072580</link>	
		<description>shme, I&apos;ll memail you a laborious but eventually successful method for 13.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:10:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mbd1mbd1</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072582</link>	
		<description>I was able to do 13 by building a bunch of two wheel linkages (look like the flintstones car from the side) including one with the red ball on the front.  Then I wedged them up the incline and kept making more.  It took a long time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:12:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072591</link>	
		<description>Note: Magic Pen isn&apos;t associated with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://kloonigames.com/crayon/&quot;&gt;Kloonigames original&lt;/a&gt; that it borrowed so liberally from.  He lists Petri Purho in the credits section, at least.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:15:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072612</link>	
		<description>damn you, I was all full of good vibes thinking this was a flash game from the same dude.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:36:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shmegegge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072681</link>	
		<description>13 turned out to be the hardest level; it should&apos;ve been last.  Apart from that, what an amazing experience.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:04:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mbd1mbd1</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072750</link>	
		<description>Finally finished with 440 shapes total (I figured out how to do 13 with only 12 shapes).  I don&apos;t know how the lowest score on the scoreboard (27) is even possible though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:03:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seanyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072773</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t get past 8.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alex3005</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072903</link>	
		<description>I started with 300 or so shapes, and went back to see if I could come up with more elegant solutions.  I trimmed my shape count down to 73.

/geek
//ex mechanical engineer

Spoiler:
--You can overlap shapes if you use a hinge.  If you delete the hinge afterwards, the shapes will un-overlap and nudge everything out of the way.  You can make giant shapes to purposefully nudge the red ball/square forward.  Triangles are very good at pushing things forward with the wedge-like physics.

--I often attach the ball to a trebuchet and delete the beam at its apex to fling the ball across the map.  For even more efficiency, you can make a trapezoid trebuchet where it&apos;s shape acts as its counterweight.

You can beat level 1 to 5 with just 1 shape by putting a hinge on the ball, and drawing an oddly-shaped triangle with one vertex at the hinge.  As the triangle falls into the hole, it puts a moment arm on the ball.  You then delete the triangle right at the apex of the arc to fling the ball at the flag.

I had a lot of trouble with level 10/26, I found that making long bars w/ hinges over the map could get the ball over.

Level 13 was also a lot of trouble.  I was able to trim it down to 4 shapes, by overlapping giant triangles and unhinging them.  I got it down to 4 giant triangles.

Level 21 - another difficult one.  Found a solution in 6 shapes.  I pinned a big weight to the red square (deleting it as it drops) to fling the square towards the bamboo canopy.   Then I used the unhinged giant triangle method to nudge the square to the flag.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: COBRA!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2072951</link>	
		<description>Wow.  When I beat level 10 by building a chain, I felt awesome.  A really nerdy kind of awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:28:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>COBRA!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2073004</link>	
		<description>still doesn&apos;t hold a candle to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.armadillorun.com&quot;&gt;Armadillo Run&lt;/a&gt;.  mind you this is free, but Armadillo is so worth the $20.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:26:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JohnYaYa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2073091</link>	
		<description>253 Shapes my first run through.  I could probably have gotten that down under 200 just by being more careful, but 25?  No way.

Seconding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.armadillorun.com/&quot;&gt;Armadillo Run&lt;/a&gt; as being awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:37:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sam.Burdick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2074393</link>	
		<description>This game has ruined all possibility of my wife getting her PHD.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:22:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam.Burdick</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Samuel Farrow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2076020</link>	
		<description>This is one of the best flash games I have ever played, and I hope that your wife&apos;s PHD wasn&apos;t in something important: like cancer research; but I do understand the interruption this game can cause.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:53:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Farrow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/70579/Magic-crayon-Physics-now-in-online-flash-form#2076723</link>	
		<description>How many levels are there? This game is taking over my life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:47:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iconomy</dc:creator>
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