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  	<title>Wadda Ya Mean I&apos;m Powerless?</title>
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    <description>The twelve steps of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straight.com/article-144591/12-steps-peak-oil&quot;&gt;peak oil&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/463/3&quot;&gt;peak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/484/&quot;&gt; civilization&lt;/a&gt;: Powerless over &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.survivalnet.org/survivalism/TEOTWAWKI.htm&quot;&gt;TEOTWAWKI&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:28:57 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Xurando</dc:creator>
	
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  	<title>By: The Light Fantastic</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109483</link>	
    <description>I think I&apos;ll go have a drink.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:36:59 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>The Light Fantastic</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: KokuRyu</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109496</link>	
    <description>OHNOWEAREALLGONNADIE:Filter

It&apos;s fun being frightened.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:55:58 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>KokuRyu</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109499</link>	
    <description>I&apos;ll only believe it when I hear the Phillip Glass soundtrack.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:59:44 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Smart Dalek</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: nosila</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109507</link>	
    <description>kooooooyanisquaatseeeeeeeeeeee</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 12:12:52 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: TheophileEscargot</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109509</link>	
    <description>&lt;small&gt;I can&apos;t tell if this is a parody or not.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 12:14:32 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Justinian</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109530</link>	
    <description>peak oilers are generally a bunch of self-parodiest, so you&apos;re safe in assuming this is both consciously not a parody and unconsciously a parody.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 12:56:54 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Justinian</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109531</link>	
    <description>self-parodies even</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 12:57:08 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Justinian</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: dhartung</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109543</link>	
    <description>I&apos;m writing the Great Post-American Novel even as we speak.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:13:04 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109558</link>	
    <description>Why would a stockbroker loose all his money in a crack?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:27:44 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109566</link>	
    <description>&lt;i&gt;Ten percent of the population of Ohio now relies on food stamps while hordes of domestic animals abandoned in foreclosed homes endure long and grotesque deaths from starvation.&lt;/i&gt;

i just hate it when people sugarcoat things, don&apos;t you?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109567</link>	
    <description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;m writing the Great Post-American Novel even as we speak.&lt;/i&gt;

oh - you must own a gravel pit then</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:38:47 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: ninjew</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109576</link>	
    <description>Step 2.)  Call my guy.  I think I might need to stock up.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:51:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109583</link>	
    <description>step 3) - powdered eggs - they&apos;re not just for breakfast anymore</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:09:01 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: three blind mice</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109592</link>	
    <description>The day that peak oil is reached, the government will finally release that 100 mph carbuerator that the space aliens left for us.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:22:17 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: three blind mice</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109596</link>	
    <description>100 mpg, while going 100 mph that is.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:23:46 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: stbalbach</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109599</link>	
    <description>I&apos;ve been reading histories of prior cases where civilization broke down and found some common traits, one of which is the outlawing of &quot;hoarding&quot; - those who have &quot;hoards&quot; of goods and don&apos;t distribute them to other people in need. Like imagine in Myanmar right now, some peasant who has a cache of rice and everyone around him is starving. People like that either hand over their goods to the authorities right quick, or become targets for retribution. Stocking up is good for short-term, maybe a month or so.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:24:41 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Justinian</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109624</link>	
    <description>I&apos;m torn on both anti-hoarding and anti-gouging laws.  If you know you won&apos;t be allowed to keep your supplies in an emergency why bother to stock up?  If you know you won&apos;t be able to make a bigger profit on selling stuff in an emergency, why pay money to keep a higher inventory than you need?  Answer:  you don&apos;t.  So in an emergency you have no extra inventory to sell to people and they&apos;re screwed.

My gut instinct is that such anti-hoarding/gouging laws lead to much bigger problems than they solve.  Unfortunately, the problems they cause (while significant) are not readily apparent to a casual look while the &quot;problems&quot; they solve are blatantly obvious.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:55:42 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Justinian</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: nasreddin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109690</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;My gut instinct is that such anti-hoarding/gouging laws lead to much bigger problems than they solve. Unfortunately, the problems they cause (while significant) are not readily apparent to a casual look while the &quot;problems&quot; they solve are blatantly obvious.&lt;/em&gt;

What you&apos;re missing, I think, is the fact that anti-hoarding/gouging laws are not passed in a calm and secure context. They are generally the result of widespread popular demand for them--demand that usually takes the form of massive riots. (See, for example, eighteenth-century England and France.) In other words, it&apos;s not that without the laws the hoarder would be able to keep all his stuff--it would just be taken away from him by a mob, an offer impossible to refuse.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:34:17 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: etaoin</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109716</link>	
    <description>Speaking of Truth, I wish I had the Power to stop people from using the former for the latter.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:17:27 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: nanojath</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109735</link>	
    <description>&lt;i&gt;Carolyn Baker is an adjunct professor of history, a former psychotherapist, an author, and a student of mythology and ritual&lt;/i&gt;.

Finally, someone with the appropriate credentials to predict the futures the global commodity resource markets, economies, governments and civilizations.  Does anybody else remember when Eric Utne became convinced that Y2K was going to, despite all predictions, go really really bad?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:43:31 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: c13</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109765</link>	
    <description>Frankly, I don&apos;t quite understand anti-gouging laws, especially in America with its worship of free market.

&lt;i&gt;Finally, someone with the appropriate credentials to predict the futures the global commodity resource markets, economies, governments and civilizations.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, she&apos;s been predicting that oil price would go up.  Seems like she&apos;s been more or less correct, at least in the short term.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:37:09 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: klarck</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109786</link>	
    <description>Years ago, my dad and I were watching TV and a Clairol commercial came on.  For the first time that  night, he spoke up and told me that in his childhood, during the depression, &quot;be good to yourself&quot; was a not-so-subtle insult.  We won&apos;t need new laws, we&apos;ll have new mores.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 19:14:18 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Avenger</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109816</link>	
    <description>...&lt;em&gt;while hordes of domestic animals abandoned in foreclosed homes endure long and grotesque deaths from starvation.&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;m not sure how widespread this is, but I have experience to back this up. I work at a kennel here in Houston, and we&apos;ve been directly involved in at least one case where a nearby house was foreclosed and the owners left their dogs inside to starve. Other owners have left their dogs with us for boarding and training but have never returned. 
Rough times.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:47:05 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Dillonlikescookies</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109901</link>	
    <description>If everyone just moves to the outdoors and lives &quot;eco lifestyles&quot; there won&apos;t be enough room. once oil goes so does any high density population because of drastically reduced food production per acre.
Most people won&apos;t seriously consider it until everyone else is, the point at which oil prices start to cripple industry. At that point, only the rich and lucky will be able to.
I mean, who knows how peak oil will pan out, but our high population densities are only sustained through oil powered industry - that is, oil goes - people starve &lt;em&gt;en masse&lt;/em&gt;. Depends mostly on how sudden the price hikes / cut backs / actual depletion of oil reserves happens, though. Just my 2c.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:32:59 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: fixedgear</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71548/Wadda-Ya-Mean-Im-Powerless#2109976</link>	
    <description>&lt;em&gt;Well, she&apos;s been predicting that oil price would go up. Seems like she&apos;s been more or less correct, at least in the short term.
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Isn&apos;t that like shooting fish in a barrel? &quot;I&apos;m peering deeply into my crystal ball and predicting that gasoline prices will also rise.&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 07:33:27 -0800</pubDate>
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