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	<title>Comments on: Conjuror or Barbarian?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:56:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Conjuror or Barbarian?</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/games/garin/monsters-den-book-of-dread&quot;&gt;Monster&apos;s Den: Book of Dread&lt;/a&gt; might be the best free dungeon crawl RPG on the web. If it ain&apos;t, it&apos;s damned close. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biclopsgames.com/&quot;&gt;Garin&apos;s site&lt;/a&gt; (just so this isn&apos;t a single link post).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:47:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LogicalDash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112757</link>	
		<description>[obligatory &lt;a href=&quot;http://nethack.org/&quot;&gt;NetHack&lt;/a&gt; pimpage]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:56:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: turgid dahlia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112758</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t play games unless they give me Xbox Live Achievement points. It just feels like a waste of time otherwise.

/sarcasm</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:58:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phssthpok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112762</link>	
		<description>This looks like a really polished clone of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pawleyscape.com/fastcrawl/&quot;&gt;FastCrawl&lt;/a&gt;. Anybody know if there&apos;s a connection?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:14:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orthogonality</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112782</link>	
		<description>Requires too much thought, and &quot;xyzzy&quot; does not work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:28:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sophist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112800</link>	
		<description>Sweet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:08:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jbickers</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112803</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;This looks like a really polished clone of FastCrawl. Anybody know if there&apos;s a connection?&lt;/em&gt;

Someone on the FastCrawl forum &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pawleyscape.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=168&quot;&gt;seems to think so&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:16:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112824</link>	
		<description>jbickers, this new one (Book of Dread) is an update to that earlier version, as well, so it&apos;s been improved &lt;em&gt;again.&lt;/em&gt;

I haven&apos;t had much time to play it, but it&apos;s been pretty difficult to beat so far.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:59:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joelhunt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112883</link>	
		<description>I played for about 10 minutes before leaving for work.  It was fun, and pretty easy to figure out.  The menus and commands seemed a little more intuitive than I&apos;m used to.  It&apos;s well-designed for the casual player, IMHO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: melissa may</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112900</link>	
		<description>Ooh, I played the holy hell out of this in its original incarnation on Kongregate and I didn&apos;t realize there&apos;d been an update.  I&apos;ve just started and the interface already looks &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; better and I love that there&apos;s now a shop.  The programmer really listened to the suggestions he was getting from users -- I&apos;m impressed.  Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:45:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: never used baby shoes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112955</link>	
		<description>I used to play the original as well; this looks like a huge improvement!  Thanks for the find.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:48:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fearfulsymmetry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2112968</link>	
		<description>this looks like a dangerous time sink</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:04:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113007</link>	
		<description>The game wouldn&apos;t work for me from kongregate.com; clicking on the &apos;continue&apos; button did nothing, preventing me from continuing. Anyone else experience this? Worked fine from the second link though, and no annoying chat window. Lots of fun! Two thumbs up!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:20:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sarcasticah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113091</link>	
		<description>This is a dangerous timesink, indeed...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:03:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Izner Myletze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113124</link>	
		<description>Monster&apos;s Den is an amusing little game, but calling it even close to the best dungeon crawl on the web is, uh, a bit much. If you&apos;re looking for more substance I&apos;d recommend any of the following: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nethack.org/&quot;&gt;Nethack&lt;/a&gt;    (as pointed out by LogicalDash)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.t-o-m-e.net/&quot;&gt;ToME&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/&quot;&gt;Dwarf Fortress&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thangorodrim.net/&quot;&gt;Angband&lt;/a&gt;   
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adom.de/&quot;&gt;ADOM&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dungeoncrawl.org/&quot;&gt;Linley&apos;s Dungeon Crawl&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://roguelikes.sauceforge.net/pub/larn/&quot;&gt;Larn&lt;/a&gt;  
or the grandparent of them all, &lt;a href=&quot;http://roguelikes.sauceforge.net/pub/rogue/index.html&quot;&gt;Rogue&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:20:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Izner Myletze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: voltairemodern</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113168</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Monster&apos;s Den is an amusing little game, but calling it even close to the best dungeon crawl on the web is, uh, a bit much. If you&apos;re looking for more substance I&apos;d recommend any of the following...&lt;/i&gt;


You recognize, I hope, that every single one of the links you just posted are to games requiring download + installation?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:39:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grimp0teuthis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113173</link>	
		<description>Ah, this is great. I really liked the original monster&apos;s den, thanks!
Here&apos;s the original: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/games/garin/monsters-den&quot;&gt;Monster&apos;s Den&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;www.kongregate.com&quot;&gt;Kongregate &lt;/a&gt;has a couple more decent RPGs:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/games/ArmorGames/sonny&quot;&gt;Sonny&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/games/Gamebrew/tactics-100-live-v1-5&quot;&gt;Tactics 100&lt;/a&gt; (think Final Fantasy Tactics)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:40:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Izner Myletze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113193</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;You recognize, I hope, that every single one of the links you just posted are to games requiring download + installation?&lt;/em&gt;

Of course. All are freely available on the web. Or does &quot;on the web&quot; refer solely to Flash games playable in a browser?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:50:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Izner Myletze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: juv3nal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113195</link>	
		<description>Haven&apos;t had a proper go at it, did they improve the rogue/thief any? Are the conjuror/barbarian any good?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:51:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: juv3nal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113213</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;
Of course. All are freely available on the web. Or does &quot;on the web&quot; refer solely to Flash games playable in a browser?&lt;/em&gt;

I think it&apos;s pretty obvious the original poster meant &lt;em&gt;playable&lt;/em&gt; on the web rather than available on the web.

Incidentally, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tinyfrogsoftware.com/cavernsbeta/&quot;&gt;this java one&lt;/a&gt; isn&apos;t half bad, but as far as I can tell, no saving.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:03:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: voltairemodern</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113292</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Haven&apos;t had a proper go at it, did they improve the rogue/thief any?&lt;/i&gt;

The thief is pretty excellent in terms of damage, so far.  The ability to bypass armor lets you one-shot a lot of monsters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:55:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Izner Myletze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113378</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alt.org/nethack/jta/&quot;&gt;Nethack playable on the web&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://crawl.akrasiac.org/&quot;&gt;Stone Soup (fun Linley&apos;s Dungeon Crawl variant) playable on the web&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hexatron.com/rogue/&quot;&gt;Rogue playable on the web&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:47:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey Michaels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113456</link>	
		<description>I still enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.superdamnit.com/lotgd/home.php?&quot;&gt;Legend of the Green Dragon&lt;/a&gt;, though its not a crawl and is turn based and text based.

Oh, yes, and yay Nethack!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:42:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2113481</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I kinda meant the sort of thing you could play &lt;strike&gt;on your lunch break&lt;/strike&gt; at work :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:03:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: regicide is good for you</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2114077</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;this looks like a dangerous time sink&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;You are on teh Internets. It is a loud and stupid place. Obvious directions are Metafilter.&lt;/strong&gt;

&amp;gt; Metafilter

&lt;strong&gt;You are reading Metafilter. There is a dangerous timesink here.&lt;/strong&gt;

&amp;gt; Avoid timesink

&lt;strong&gt;You cannot avoid the dangerous timesink.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:54:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: garlic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2114317</link>	
		<description>Is there a way to heal between combats besides potions? I keep getting killed because I enter combat mostly dead from the last one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:04:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Izner Myletze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2114377</link>	
		<description>Altars will heal you fully. Also going down to a new level.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:33:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: juv3nal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2114699</link>	
		<description>Also, having gone down a level, the stairs back up to the previous level can be used as a one time heal like altars. Or at least they can on easy mode. &lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Yes, I&apos;m a wuss.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:43:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kwine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2114863</link>	
		<description>The new update is awesome. Sometimes, all the items in the store disappear and you can&apos;t buy anything. Since you can only go to the store once a level or so depending on when you find the scroll, and since the life/death margin is razor thin at high difficulty levels, this renders the game unplayable. Comments on kongregate suggest that this is a common problem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:54:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deCadmus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2116101</link>	
		<description>Timesink... major timesink.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:22:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klangklangston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71634/Conjuror-or-Barbarian#2116930</link>	
		<description>Man, I was just comin&apos; here to find out if anyone had figured out what caused the store glitch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:15:54 -0800</pubDate>
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