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	<title>Comments on: A Star is Unborn</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:43:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>A Star is Unborn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/science/22nova.html?em&amp;ex=1211515200&amp;en=51e856f4c1f0ba9d&amp;ei=5087%0A&quot;&gt;&quot;Here was an object brand new. At first we didn&apos;t recognize it.&quot; &lt;/a&gt;Dr. Alicia Soderberg on the discovery of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.science.psu.edu/alert/Swift5-2008.htm&quot;&gt;Supernova 2008D&lt;/a&gt;, using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://heasarc.nasa.gov/docs/swift/swiftsc.html&quot;&gt;Swift&lt;/a&gt; satellite telescope....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:30:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>		<category>astronomy</category>		<category>supernova</category>		<category>star</category>		<category>telescope</category>
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		<title>By: nax</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121362</link>	
		<description>damn it, kronos, you beat me to it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:43:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nax</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sciurus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121370</link>	
		<description>Wow, that is cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sciurus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: msalt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121397</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Here was an object brand new.&lt;/em&gt;

This is a discovery very lucky.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:11:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr_Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121402</link>	
		<description>Very awesome, it is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:15:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Zero</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121412</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/71815/Kids-Whod-have-em#2119374&quot;&gt;My people&lt;/a&gt; call to me. They are.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:20:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121419</link>	
		<description>Brand new? It happened &lt;em&gt;ninety million years ago&lt;/em&gt;, and they&apos;re just finding out about it &lt;em&gt;now&lt;/em&gt;!!!

Huh. So much for any advanced warning from &lt;em&gt;these &lt;/em&gt;bozos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:25:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattoxic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121420</link>	
		<description>Man, that news is 88 million years old.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: number9dream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121422</link>	
		<description>That gave me a boner.  I love science.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:27:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121425</link>	
		<description>Yeah. I heard about it on All Things Considered today. The announcer said it was the first supernova witnessed at the time of the explosion and I&apos;m all like &quot;huh?&quot;

Thanks for mis-informing the public, NPR. You won&apos;t see me come Fall Pledge Drive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:28:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: everichon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121428</link>	
		<description>And here is a thread with a direction predictable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:30:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: humannaire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121474</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Brand new? It happened ninety million years ago, and they&apos;re just finding out about it now!!!&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, to us it is happening now. If you re-conceptualize your view of physics to include outstanding conceptual qualities of light and travel such as simultaneity and distance supercession then it is within reason that we are (can be) here and there/&quot;far-ever&quot; we want to be &lt;em&gt;now&lt;/em&gt;.

It only takes a perception of light as instantaneously conduitive as opposed to merely instantaneous.

I believe John Dobson has a similar take on things, disregarded/non-traditional as it may be:
&lt;em&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/spring%202006/Books_Dobson.pdf&quot;&gt;In a discussion of the speed of light,
Dobson says &quot;it is not a speed, but the
ratio of space to time.&quot;

&quot;Time,&quot; says
Dobson, &quot;is nature&apos;s way of keeping
everything from happening at once.
Space is nature&apos;s way of keeping everything
from happening in the same place.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:09:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>humannaire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: absalom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121480</link>	
		<description>I believe that was the joke, humannaire. :) This is pretty cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thecaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121593</link>	
		<description>I liked its old stuff better.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:59:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121650</link>	
		<description>They get nucleosynthesis wrong in the end of the article - everything up to iron, inclusive, can be formed in main sequence stars.  Otherwise, great post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lukemeister</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/71866/A-Star-is-Unborn#2121991</link>	
		<description>The discovery came Jan. 7, when Berger and his fiancee, Alicia Soderberg, both 30, were using NASA&apos;s Swift spacecraft to observe an already discovered supernova in the galaxy NGC 2770.

&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2008/05/22/scientific_pair_make_a_rare_find_on_supernova/&quot;&gt;I just finished dinner and there was nothing interesting on the TV&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; Berger said. &quot;I decided to take a quick look at the observation.&quot;

I would have made this discovery myself, but I was reading Metafilter that evening.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 07:20:36 -0800</pubDate>
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