Comments on: Play with a Curta

Play with a Curta

Dave Faris — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:24:14 -0800

I first learned about them when they featured prominently in a Gibson book (Pattern Recognition). When I looked on eBay, I was stunned at the prices they fetch. Now I can at least play with a virtual Curta mechanical calculator.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:30:44 -0800

From a previous metafilter post, here's a PDF about the Curta written by Clifford Stoll.

By: aramaic

aramaic — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:33:26 -0800

Well great, now I feel like a moron, and it's not even lunchtime yet. (god I love mechanical devices)

By: le morte de bea arthur

le morte de bea arthur — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:35:54 -0800

Thanks. I almost bought several a few years ago as an investment, but didn't think they'd go up in value. *sigh*

By: Skorgu

Skorgu — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:39:19 -0800

Those things peg my geek lust like few other items I'm aware of. Want.

By: Skeptic

Skeptic — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:47:40 -0800

I don't understand the reason for the "Russian" tag, considering that Curtas were made in Liechtenstein. The story of how it was designed is...quite surprising.

By: acb

acb — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:49:19 -0800

Curta = Lomo for geeks. I wonder how long until someone gets a Chinese factory to make a few containerloads of these and starts selling them over the web. They already do this with various fondly remembered retro gadgets, from Stylophones (about £15 in big record shops here, which means you may see them for $30 at Urban Outfitters in the US), Space Hoppers, Atari 2600s/Commodore 64s on a joystick, and, of course, Lomo cameras.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:51:26 -0800

Shows you what I know, Skeptic. I fixed it.

By: CheshireCat

CheshireCat — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:52:19 -0800

I certainly hope that happens abc. I was just thinking how Think Geek would make an absolute killing on these.

By: sotonohito

sotonohito — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:52:51 -0800

Nifty. I had thought mechanical calculators had gone out with the introduction of the slide rule, though of course they aren't so good for addition and subtraction but obviously I was wrong.

By: notsnot

notsnot — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:11:02 -0800

Holy cow that's awesome.

By: Fuzzy Skinner

Fuzzy Skinner — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:21:57 -0800

I've never seen one of those. Awesome! In the 60s, my brother and I had a Magic Brain Calculator. Nowhere near as cool as the Curta, but I have always remembered the Magic Brain.

By: stbalbach

stbalbach — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:29:21 -0800

New to me. They will probably keep going up in value. Same with Nixie Tubes. All part of that non-digital analog movement, a reaction to a digital life.

By: odinsdream

odinsdream — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:33:38 -0800

Normally we would now make 9 turns of the handle with the carriage in position 1 and 8 turns with the carriage in position 2, that is altogether 17 turns of the handle. The same calculation can be done, however, with only 3 turns of the handle. 89 = (100-11) or (-11 + 100). We therefore calculate 457 x (-1-10+100).

Error: Brain overflow. As cool as the Curta is, it's stuff like this that makes me think I'd need to already be a math savant in order to use it effectively. It's kind of the same problem I've had with math my whole life; I love the concepts dearly, and can feel the simple beauty of the complexity, but get insanely frustrated with myself for not seeing these "tricks" as easily as apparently lots of people can.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:36:42 -0800

Visual demonstration on operating a Curta.

By: fixedgear

fixedgear — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:16:30 -0800

*Hops in to VW Phaeton, speeds off...*

By: mcstayinskool

mcstayinskool — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:22:37 -0800

fixedgear, are you making a Spook Country reference, or were Phaetons a role in Pattern Recognition as well?

By: fixedgear

fixedgear — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:24:26 -0800

They were a motif in one a dem Gibson books. Maybe it was Spook Country.

By: samsara

samsara — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:37:25 -0800

Great vid Dave Faris. It led me to a pretty fascinating site on mechanical calculators (RetroCalculators.com)

By: DU

DU — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:52:42 -0800

All part of that non-digital analog movement, a reaction to a digital life. I think Curtas, unlike slide rules, are digital. Just not electronic.

By: king walnut

king walnut — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:55:08 -0800

What a beautiful machine. One flaw: the exponent ring should have been labeled starting at 0 instead of 1.

By: DU

DU — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:02:28 -0800

D'oh, wrong thread. Instead: I always think I want a sliderule, or in this case a Curta, but then I have to try to learn how to use it and I'm like....screw this complicated crap. They are the kind of things that are elegant, beautiful and historically interesting but not necessarily something you'd actually want to use.

By: DU

DU — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:05:15 -0800

But I don't want to sound like I'm bad-mouthing it. From the simulator, it looks like this works very similarly to the Difference Engine. I actually started building my own DE out of Lego (which I know has been done before) at one point. It's such an awesome concept and mechanism.

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:09:34 -0800

Great links Dave. I had never heard of the Curta and feel just a tad smarter today.

By: Artw

Artw — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:40:19 -0800

/pulls pin on math grenade, lobs it into mob of advancing nerd-zombies.

By: zouhair

zouhair — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:42:28 -0800

A little manual to get the thing.

By: Harald74

Harald74 — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:52:28 -0800

Aargh, now I want one and I'm broke! Thanks for the manual, Zouhair.

By: squarehead

squarehead — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:39:31 -0800

I've wanted one of these ever since I read about it in Scientific American a few years ago. Dave Faris linked to the PDF of that article in the first comment. It really is a good story. For anyone who isn't going to read it, Herzstark completed the design of the Curta while in the Buchenwald concentration camp. The Nazis were going to give one to Hitler as a present once they won the war. "Then, surely, you will be made an Aryan," they told him. So he designed it under terrible conditions with the thought that it could save his life.

By: Pastabagel

Pastabagel — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:58:18 -0800

New to me. They will probably keep going up in value. Same with Nixie Tubes. All part of that non-digital analog movement, a reaction to a digital life. posted by stbalbach at 11:29 AM on May 22 Called it!

By: backseatpilot

backseatpilot — Thu, 22 May 2008 13:01:26 -0800

My parents have one of those in pristine condition. It's awesome.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 22 May 2008 13:26:14 -0800

How is a mechanical calculator the same as a vintage telephone, Pastabagel? I've been collecting old cameras and mechanical clocks for 10 or more years. And a friend is way into vintage typewriters. And I've noticed an uptick in neovictorian architecture in the last 5 or so years. Blocks of condos built to look like they were built 125 years ago. So I guess maybe Neal Stephenson called it.

By: dansdata

dansdata — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:13:35 -0800

Nyaah, nyaah, I've got one and you haven't, nyaah!

By: DU

DU — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:09:14 -0800

My dad was collecting slide rules already in the early-to-mid 80s and they were barely out of usage at that point.

By: zardoz

zardoz — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:29:31 -0800

They were a motif in one a dem Gibson books. Maybe it was Spook Country. I haven't read Spook Country, but there was something like this in Pattern Recognition. In that book the calculator was a Russian design, or the character trying to sell them was Russian...one or the other. I think.

By: Artw

Artw — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:41:46 -0800

Hmm. It's possibly not that good a sign that I remember this from Pattern Recognition more than I do the plot, or characters, or anything like that.

By: fixedgear

fixedgear — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:02 -0800

No, the Phaetons were from Spook Country. The calculators were from Pattern Recognition. She was freaked out by Bibendum.