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	<title>Comments on: Fred Astaire makes &quot;Smooth Criminal&quot; classy.</title>
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	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post Fred Astaire makes &quot;Smooth Criminal&quot; classy.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:44:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Fred Astaire makes &quot;Smooth Criminal&quot; classy.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gB0UNey-Uk"&gt;Fred Astaire makes &quot;Smooth Criminal&quot; classy.&lt;/a&gt; SYTL, but man, what a SYTL.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:43:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>		<category>astaire</category>		<category>smoothcriminal</category>		<category>michaeljackson</category>		<category>choreography</category>		<category>classyguy</category>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127577</link>	
		<description>Although I daresay 0:01-1:29 could be safely skipped.  Some may disagree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:44:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127590</link>	
		<description>Fun, thanks. Don&apos;t remember the last mashup I watched all the way through.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:55:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shakespeherian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127592</link>	
		<description>Two great tastes that taste great alone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:57:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: found missing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127601</link>	
		<description>me likey</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:03:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>found missing</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127603</link>	
		<description>I thought it was awesome.  I never realized that the original video was partially based on that scene, although after having watched that the similarities are striking.  Very neat, thanks for the link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:05:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stunt</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: middleclasstool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127607</link>	
		<description>That was goddamn wonderful, and I thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:09:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Faris</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127608</link>	
		<description>Although I realize that it&apos;s the whole point, I could have done without the soundtrack.

I do think that the Jackson soundtrack works better against &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=L8mJsgPj1iU&quot;&gt;The Little Prince&lt;/a&gt;, but only because i&lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=pGd-0BcAzLs&quot;&gt;t demonstrates how many moves the Freak of Plastic Surgery swiped&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:10:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arcticwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127633</link>	
		<description>Neat, but I don&apos;t understand the Ministry of Silly Walks bit halfway through.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:29:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bugg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127647</link>	
		<description>All I have to say is that I want to know what that exploding beer was. I&apos;ll have one of those please.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127649</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry, I have to ask... SYTL?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:52:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dirigibleman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127651</link>	
		<description>I preferred the walrus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:53:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hattifattener</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127652</link>	
		<description>&quot;Single YouTube Link&quot;? Also written SLYT (&quot;single-link YouTube post&quot;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:55:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxwelton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127667</link>	
		<description>Can&apos;t act. Can&apos;t sing. Balding. Can dance a little.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flatluigi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127680</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHC_Qyov2Xc&quot;&gt;Smooth Criminal (and Owner of a Lonely Heart), classier.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:19:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ErWenn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127690</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re wary about watching this, stick it out to at least the four-minute mark, where it really gets good. (Yeah, you could probably skip the first minute and a half as WCityMike suggests.)

Anyone else got any good mash-ups like this (meaning where dance that was choreographed for one song is matched with a different song)?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:24:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brianvan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127717</link>	
		<description>PDTOPIA.

(Oh wait, you don&apos;t know that one. Please don&apos;t turn obscure phrases into acronyms)

No reason to apologize for linking a good video. Even if &quot;good&quot; is subjective to the MetaFilter audience + admins. 

That said, both the first minute and a half and last minute and a half are useless. The editing is great and the idea is awesome, but it&apos;s hard to watch Fred Astaire (an older Fred at that) and not wish you were watching MJ instead. The King of Pop made many fantastic singles+videos over his career, and this one was really one of the tops. You don&apos;t do a remix to put something worse together out of something that&apos;s already better. 

But it might go viral since it&apos;s unusual and novel in a way many people might find thrilling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:49:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127726</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;SYTL, but man, what a SYTL. &lt;/em&gt;

Do not do this any more, please.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:54:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: winna</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127794</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Anyone else got any good mash-ups like this (meaning where dance that was choreographed for one song is matched with a different song)?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU3N5c2Kxnw&quot;&gt;Gwen Verdon does Walk It Out.&lt;/a&gt;

It makes me laugh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:48:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue_beetle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127797</link>	
		<description>Fair enough, but it&apos;s no 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs_T_cEoX6I&quot;&gt;
Gene Kelley Singing in the Rain Remix&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:51:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: markr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127802</link>	
		<description>Great. Worth it for Cyd Charisse&apos;s legs alone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:55:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vitia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127812</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;it&apos;s hard to watch Fred Astaire (an older Fred at that) and not wish you were watching MJ instead&lt;/em&gt;

What complete and utter nonsense. The camera never spends more than three consecutive seconds on MJ in the video: it&apos;s stitched together garbage. Remix aside, watch any Astaire movie whatsoever -- any Astaire clip or song whatsoever -- and you&apos;ll see more accomplished, sustained dancing. Never mind that half of MJ&apos;s moves, as the post clearly indicates, were ripped off from Astaire, and the other half from Fosse, with some Presley and Brown thrown in.

He&apos;s an accomplished dancer, yes. But far, far from the equal of Astaire.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:08:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127835</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;SYTL, but man, what a SYTL. &lt;/i&gt;

Hey, that&apos;s just, like... your &lt;i&gt;opinion&lt;/i&gt;, man...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:46:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PeterMcDermott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127860</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;That said, both the first minute and a half and last minute and a half are useless.&lt;/em&gt;

Perhaps, but I&apos;d rather have watched the subsequent Leslie Caron Apache Dance from that clip than the butchered Fred Astaire.

You don&apos;t see the Apache dance much these days. I suppose the idea of a pimp slapping his French beeyotch around because she won&apos;t give him his money just isn&apos;t seen as that romantic any more?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: telstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127909</link>	
		<description>Theng Kew!  More like this, I like seeing the influences exemplified.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:33:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Uther Bentrazor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2127972</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t like our kids being exposed to stars who emphasize smoking and gun violence.  This Fred Astaire character should be ashamed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:20:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LordSludge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2128028</link>	
		<description>Over the weekend, a professional ballet dancer taught me the zombie dance for &lt;i&gt;Thriller&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;small&gt;but then I forgets it&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:38:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: m0nm0n</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2128135</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw&quot;&gt;Best mashup ever.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:05:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CitizenD</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2128282</link>	
		<description>thanks, &lt;strong&gt;WCityMike&lt;/strong&gt;.  that was fun.

&lt;small&gt;i, too, liked the walrus better....but, what&apos;s better than a dancing walrus?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:39:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2128753</link>	
		<description>&quot;SYTL, but man, what a SYTL.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Do not do this any more, please.&lt;/em&gt;

Surely you meant:  DNDTAMP</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:02:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KirkJobSluder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2128756</link>	
		<description>One of the things that I really dislike about the MTV style is how it has shaped dance cinematography. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDGGw3RH5ug&quot;&gt;Minelli&apos;s original&lt;/a&gt; gives Astaire and Charisse each 30 seconds of introduction to establish character, and then (at least by my count) almost a full minute on the duet with a single cut on Charisse&apos;s beautiful kick. Then the editing gets a bit jumpy through the fight scene.  It&apos;s not Astaire&apos;s best, and I&apos;m much more of a Kelly fan, but I still had to put the whole movie on my netflix list.

The two Jackson versions of &quot;smooth criminal,&quot; in contrast, don&apos;t do much to showcase his dancing skill or choreography. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WjOn5TNjBM&quot;&gt;The short version&lt;/a&gt;, of course, uses video time compression, blur, and rapid-fire jump cuts to create what to me is a very jumbled mess that&apos;s more confusing than dramatic. That great angry spin would be wonderful if we actually got to see the whole thing. Instead, we have alternating shots of his head and feet, which makes it look a bit faked.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k&quot;&gt;10 minute long version&lt;/a&gt; is a bit better, but still suffers from cuts that chop up the choreography, extended shots from the waist up, shots in which Jackson is obscured by foreground dancers, and shots where he&apos;s upstaged by visual effects. It&apos;s only at about 7:55 that we get some good choreography coverage, just after a slow bridge that feels much more like one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSHnK4dvi3w&quot;&gt;Fosse&apos;s scenes from All That Jazz (NSFW)&lt;/a&gt;. But by then, the demands of the larger plot involving giant robo Jackson vs. Pesci drags us away from some really beautiful dance moves.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brainy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2129079</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Anyone else got any good mash-ups like this (meaning where dance that was choreographed for one song is matched with a different song)?&lt;/em&gt;

You might not know either the movie source or the band but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-RcESpqLI&quot;&gt;World/Inferno Friendship Society&apos;s Brother of the Mayor of Bridgewater with video from 1776&lt;/a&gt; is pretty hysterical.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:47:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pronoiac</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72034/Fred-Astaire-makes-Smooth-Criminal-classy#2131636</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=339ixMtHrVk&quot;&gt;Daft Punk as background music for the Charleston.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
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