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	<title>Comments on: More than a lucky shot</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:01:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>More than a lucky shot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot</link>	
		<description>&quot;In the early 1970s, the artist Chris Burden pioneered a kind of sculpture that explored boundaries few people would care even to approach.&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Chris+Burden+&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search &quot;&gt;The artist&lt;/a&gt; has had himself (in two of many examples...) nearly electrocuted and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubu.com/film/burden.html&quot;&gt;shot&lt;/a&gt;; some of his later and lighter work includes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.magasin3.com/exhibitions/burden.html&quot;&gt;building&lt;/a&gt; complex model bridges and reconstructing a &quot;Speed of Light Machine&quot;. He created a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghostship.org.uk/flash.htm&quot;&gt;ghost ship&lt;/a&gt;, uninhabited and self navigated, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/nyregion/08rockefeller.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;continues to surprise with his latest work&lt;/a&gt;.... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The recording of &quot;Shoot&quot; is about a third of the way in the video in the first link.  Click on &quot;images&quot; on the site linked to by &lt;strong&gt;built&lt;/strong&gt; in the post for a scrolling photo set; &quot;catalogue&quot; provides an interview with the artist.  
 Here is a recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/artworld/2007/05/14/070514craw_artworld_schjeldahl&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt; of his work.

I&apos;d like to thank &lt;strong&gt;crazylegs&lt;/strong&gt; of MetaFilter for reminding me of this artist&apos;s name.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:45:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>		<category>performanceart</category>		<category>conceptualart</category>		<category>media</category>		<category>engineering</category>		<category>limits</category>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140696</link>	
		<description>Ahhh...I remember watching videos of Burden&apos;s performances back in art school. Pretty challenging shit to watch for a working-class kid from the midwest.</description>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140706</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s a nice photo set of his recent work, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=photoGalleryAlbum&amp;galleryid=945&amp;order=1&quot;&gt;Urban Light&lt;/a&gt;, which I have the pleasure of walking past every day -- it&apos;s probably my favorite thing about the whole &quot;Transformation&quot; phase at LACMA.  &lt;small&gt;(*grumble*Don&apos;t get me started on BCAM*grumble*)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:11:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suckerpunch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140712</link>	
		<description>Rock music geeks already know of this guy : David Bowie&apos;s song &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.last.fm/music/David+Bowie/_/Joe+the+Lion&quot;&gt;Joe the Lion&lt;/a&gt; is based on Chris Burden and his work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:16:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grounded</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140723</link>	
		<description>Re: Chris Burden, guns and art.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://artforum.com/diary/id=8299&quot;&gt;In 2004, Chris Burden abruptly resigned from his UCLA faculty position when a student used a gun -- perhaps a toy or replica -- in a performance piece on the UCLA campus.&lt;/a&gt;  Burden wanted the university to punish the student for violating safety rules.   I guess it&apos;s &apos;irony&apos; when you push the boundaries but it&apos;s a &apos;safety violation&apos; when someone else does it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:23:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Balisong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140725</link>	
		<description>Reminds me of Paul McCarthy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:27:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: argybarg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140756</link>	
		<description>The Ghost Ship is worth looking at. There&apos;s something oddly affecting and a little bit unnerving about seeing an empty ship move over the water.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:19:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mykescipark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140772</link>	
		<description>Also cf., &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.laurieanderson.com&quot;&gt;Laurie Anderson&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s 1976 song about Burden, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubu.com/sound/anderson.html&quot;&gt;&quot;It&apos;s Not The Bullet That Kills You (It&apos;s The Hole)&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:49:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tube</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140803</link>	
		<description>Here in the Rainier Valley in South Seattle where I live various artists periodically recreate Burden&apos;s &quot;Shoot&quot; art piece. Many choose to push the artistic envelope with the use of the 9mm parabellum round instead of Burden&apos;s puny .22. Spent cartridges left at the site act as the artist&apos;s signature. Authentication of performance pieces is difficult, and often involves microscopic examination of tool marks left on the cartridge cases by the extractor and firing pin. Critical write-ups of the performance pieces are well publicized though, often on the front page of the Seattle Times. Unlike &quot;First Thursday&quot; art walks, these performances are usually held on Friday or Saturday night. Employees of Harborview ER have been persistent critics of the artistic value of this unique &quot;street theater&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:58:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hydrophonic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140809</link>	
		<description>Urban Light is fantastic!

&lt;em&gt;I guess it&apos;s &apos;irony&apos; when you push the boundaries but it&apos;s a &apos;safety violation&apos; when someone else does it.&lt;/em&gt;

When you surprise a classroom full of people by pointing what appears to be a loaded gun  at your head, how is that not a safety violation? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;...in the course of a performance for a class taught by visiting instructor Ron Athey, a graduate student entered a classroom at UCLA&apos;s Warner building where roughly thirty other students were gathered. The student, wearing a coat and tie, produced either a gun or a convincing replica of one, put what looked like a bullet into the weapon, spun the cylinder, and held it to his head, Russian-roulette style. He pulled the trigger, but the gun did not fire. The student then left the room; while he was out of view, a shot was heard, at which point he returned, now apparently unarmed. A short discussion ensued between what the witness described as the &quot;freaked-out&quot; performer and a room full of people who were &quot;a little frozen and a little scared,&quot; and then the class broke up for the day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Keep in mind that Burden&apos;s piece took place in a gallery, not a school, and at least one other person was fully aware of his intentions. Also, I don&apos;t think &lt;a href=&quot;http://smallswordsmagazine.com/articles/image/chrisburden.html&quot;&gt;he intended any irony&lt;/a&gt;. When it&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez1QkjBiWeA&quot;&gt;reenacted &lt;/a&gt;by smirking &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bryantbulldogs.com/sports/fball/2006/Student_Bios/Benevides-_Justin&quot;&gt;jocks&lt;/a&gt;, maybe that&apos;s irony.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:10:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hydrophonic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140810</link>	
		<description>Also:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://catandgirl.com/view.php?loc=259&quot;&gt;heh&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:11:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sour cream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140814</link>	
		<description>His work is so ... contemporary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:20:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lumpenprole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140822</link>	
		<description>Man, the stories about this guy are so profuse and legendary that you can never tell which ones are bullshit. He&apos;s truly a freak. There was the piece where he supposedly wrapped himself in a carpet and had some friends toss him on the LA freeway. I have no idea if that happened or not. Also, supposedly he invited a bunch of people out by an airport, then pulled out a pistol and shot at passing planes. Again, no idea if that happened. 

I remember when he moved into the front window in the New Museum in downtown Manhattan. I used to go out of my way to walk down there drunk at 4 am to watch him sleep. So damn weird.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:40:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheOnlyCoolTim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140829</link>	
		<description>Excellent trolling work; to be commended.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:59:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: redteam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140862</link>	
		<description>The first time I ever heard of Chris Burden was on a public television program.  It might have actually been a LA Unified School District video.  Anyway, it was a piece called &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zwirnerandwirth.com/exhibitions/2004/0904Burden/press.html&quot;&gt;Samson&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.  Museum-goers would enter a room through a turnstile.  The turnstile was attached to a huge jack that was pushing apart the whole room.  Apparently if enough people went to see it the room would have been destroyed.  I never heard anything else about it.  In fact, I&apos;ve heard a lot of people talk about this guy and no one mentions this piece.  He must be very prolific.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:06:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140900</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;There was the piece where he supposedly wrapped himself in a carpet and had some friends toss him on the LA freeway. I have no idea if that happened or not.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. That was real. He also attempted to breathe water. That&apos;s an especially hard video to watch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:07:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scram</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140907</link>	
		<description>Rolled in a carpet and tossed on the freeway? Burden never did that. (I compiled the timeline for MOCA&apos;s Out of Actions performance art survey, and am familiar with all of his endurance / threat performances.) Maybe you folks are thinking of the piece which had the artist under a tarp on La Cienega&apos;s gallery row, with traffic flares surrounding him. As risky as some of these performances were, they were not suicide attempts.

From Burden&apos;s description of &quot;Deadman&quot; (November 12, 1972): &quot;At 8 p.m. I lay down on La Cienega Boulevard and was covered completely with a canvas tarpaulin. Two 15-minute flares were placed near me to alert cars. Just before the flares extinguished, a police car arrived. I was arrested for causing a false emergency to be reported...&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hwestiii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140942</link>	
		<description>When I saw the still from &quot;Un Chien Andalou&quot; in the banner, I knew I was in for trouble.  No thanks.  Eyeball sliced...artist shot...I think I&apos;ll wait until after lunch</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:44:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2140953</link>	
		<description>&quot;Through the night, softly,&quot; the video of him writhing on the floor through shards of broken glass, was shown repeatedly on late night TV in commercial format with purchased air time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:03:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JBennett</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2141033</link>	
		<description>Burden is a fascinating artist. I was always really into that piece where he shot a handgun at a jet airliner for some reason. I was also impressed that Andy Warhol bought the gun used. He seemed to me to be a real genuine artist, not just some in your face dude trying to shock people to further his name/career.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:57:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robin Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2141071</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a fine line between Chris Burden and Johnny Knoxville.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:45:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Kestrel</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jason&apos;s_planet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2141128</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://jalopnik.com/360541/performance-art-and-the-automobile-chris-burden-crucifed-on-beetle-1974&quot;&gt;He also had himself crucified on a VW beetle.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:34:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: QIbHom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2141377</link>	
		<description>I still have nightmares from watching that breathing water piece in a HS English class. Our teacher also showed us the broken glass piece.

I can&apos;t get past the shock and horror to figure what he&apos;s after.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:39:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim McDonough</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72373/More-than-a-lucky-shot#2141689</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll bet getting shot like that hurts like a motherfucker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:31:41 -0800</pubDate>
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