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	<title>Comments on: The Fulgurator</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Fulgurator</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juliusvonbismarck.com%2Ffulgurator%2Fidee.html&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8"&gt;The Fulgurator.&lt;/a&gt; By using a flash detector and a high-powered flash of its own the Fulgurator can project images that are only seen when photographed. &quot;This procedure is very inconspicuous, since it takes place within a few milliseconds.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAX_3Bgel7M&quot;&gt;A short video of the Fulgurator in action&lt;/a&gt; shows its usage and the results.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:35:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>GuyZero</dc:creator>		<category>fulgurator</category>		<category>photography</category>		<category>flash</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>manipulation</category>
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		<title>By: nowonmai</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161189</link>	
		<description>There can&apos;t be many public places where you could wield something that looks like that and not get tazered. Neat idea though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161198</link>	
		<description>Great idea, can it display &quot;STOP PUTTING THAT CAMERA BETWEEN ME AND THE BAND&quot; to assholes at rock shows?

This weekend I was at a show where the band asked audience members to actually look at the band themselves and not take photos.  People refused.  The lead singer actually hit the hand of a guy beside me with a drum stick, who looked puzzled, but they kept holding their fucking cameras up in front of everyone and snapping photos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:48:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161203</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;This procedure is very inconspicuous&lt;/em&gt;

Except for the part where there is a guy in the middle of the street pointing what looks more than a bit like a good sized firearm at you. 

A neat technical idea with an unfortunate final shape.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:51:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161206</link>	
		<description>Is this one of those things where you have to shake your head back and forth really fast to see it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:55:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161208</link>	
		<description>Quin is right, this would be much more effective as a permanently-mounted device, which means... uh-oh.

Someday soon every picture I try to take of the Statue of Liberty is going to come out with &lt;i&gt;&amp;copy; 2008 Getty Images&lt;/i&gt; already silkscreened onto the photo, isn&apos;t it?

This invention will not make the world better.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:55:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kcds</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161218</link>	
		<description>This is a very ingenious hack, easily assembled from readily-available components with little or no modification required, other than some duct tape to hold things together.

However, I fear Rokusan is right, this will be used for viral marketing - in fact I&apos;m sure you could argue that it already is.

Also: fulgurator?  I &apos;ardly knew &apos;er.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:08:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nevercalm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161223</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I can just imagine pointing that thing anywhere in NYC....you&apos;d have people ducking and about 20 cops on your ass within seconds.  It is a neat idea, though.

I wonder if the video could have been longer, though, with more time before it got to the point?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:15:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CKmtl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161233</link>	
		<description>Google Translate seems to be broken.

It&apos;s not translating the German word for art into &quot;ruining unsuspecting people&apos;s photos&quot;, nor artist into &quot;wanker who ruins unsuspecting people&apos;s photos&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:27:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Navelgazer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161235</link>	
		<description>Indeed, shame about it looking like something that&apos;ll kill you.  I&apos;d love to see that thing used at political press conferences.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:29:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oaf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161246</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s not translating the German word for art into &quot;ruining unsuspecting people&apos;s photos&quot;, nor artist into &quot;wanker who ruins unsuspecting people&apos;s photos&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

You have to transpose the last two letters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:47:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oats</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161252</link>	
		<description>Agree with nevercalm.  Calling it a &apos;short video&apos; is slightly disingenuous.

Interesting idea, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:56:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sys Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161275</link>	
		<description>It appears to be just the (standard, removeable, found at any decent camera store) pistol grip that makes it look like a gun.  It could just as easily have a side grip, or no grip at all.

The pistol grip seems like the best ergonomic choice, although, yeah, it looks a bit terroristy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:23:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161283</link>	
		<description>Great idea, but why does the video consist of 3 hours of random people taking pictures, 10 seconds of the payoff and then no explanation?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:32:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161288</link>	
		<description>Could anyone decipher the text? I got something like &quot;Hundreds of people died last year by trying to cross the US-Mexico border&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:39:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161292</link>	
		<description>WTF is with that video requiring 1:30 before it even shows the device, and another 1:30 of wankery before we see the effect?  Sheezus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161296</link>	
		<description>I would have felt almost compelled to use this in a prank to superimpose a grinning skull over a painted figure like the mona lisa, or put a looming demon in the backdrop to a family photo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:44:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CKmtl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161302</link>	
		<description>&quot;Hundred of people died last year by trying this at the US - Mexico border&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:48:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: subgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161318</link>	
		<description>&quot;Hundred of people died laughing last year by tying this thing to a Mexican boarder&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:02:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aeschenkarnos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161336</link>	
		<description>You could easily make it look like an ordinary, if large, camera. (Just as you can make a gun look like an ordinary, if large, camera.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:21:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kcds</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161381</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It appears to be just the (standard, removeable, found at any decent camera store) pistol grip that makes it look like a gun. It could just as easily have a side grip, or no grip at all.&lt;/i&gt;

That&apos;s not a pistol grip, that&apos;s the flash gun that projects the image.  The image to be projected goes on a piece of 35mm film, and you put it where the film would normally go in a 35mm camera, but you open the back, and put a flash gun behind it, and wire the flash gun&apos;s sync terminal to the flash trigger.  When the tourist&apos;s flash goes off, it triggers the fulgurator to fire the flash gun behind the transparency, and the image is projected through the lens on the front of the camera onto the target.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:36:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OverlappingElvis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161391</link>	
		<description>This is so cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:51:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rhymer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161626</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a silly gimmick which thinks it&apos;s all post-modern and clever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:53:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161649</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;(Just as you can make a gun look like an ordinary, if large, camera.)&lt;/em&gt;

Or a camera into an actual gun, which in Hollywood&apos;s eyes just might get an assassin close enough to whack the President.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:23:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seanmpuckett</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161692</link>	
		<description>Guess who&apos;s now on the NSA watch list.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:44:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kalessin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161704</link>	
		<description>That is totally effin&apos; awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:05:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161709</link>	
		<description>The video was long. But I liked the music. There choice in what to project was no fun at all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:13:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monocultured</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161739</link>	
		<description>The device is interesting &amp;amp; the video well paced.

You get time to think about the social implications of the device by showing the consternation of those taking pictures, while underlining the premise of an artist as someone who takes the right to invade others life. Not revolutionary in its&apos; concept, but certainly new in execution afaik. 

@rhymer: Are there examples of &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; public art that is &quot;post-moden and clever&quot; or are those terms derogatory?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:45:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: echo target</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2161858</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think I&apos;ve ever seen an art project that wouldn&apos;t be cooler if it wasn&apos;t framed as &apos;art&apos;.  This is a kind of cool tool for hiding messages and/or messing with people.  But what&apos;s up with this &quot;targets the very fabric of media memory&quot; crap?

Remember when we had those guys who rigged a projector, camera, and laser pointer so that they could &lt;a href=&quot;http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=76&quot;&gt;write graffiti on the side of a building&lt;/a&gt;?  That was kickass.  But how much lamer would it be if they said that it was a comment on the impermanence of graffiti and, by extension, the transience of all things?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:19:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dasheekeejones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2163234</link>	
		<description>I thought it said The Fugulator (as in making people ugly)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:59:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72803/The-Fulgurator#2163979</link>	
		<description>As always, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/06/exclusive-inter.html&quot;&gt;Wired Magazine&lt;/a&gt; goes places that MeFi has already run roughshod.

Summary of new info from Wired piece: (1) It&apos;s from Latin &apos;fulgar&apos;, lightning. (2) The inventor is applying for a patent in order, he claims, to &lt;i&gt;prevent&lt;/i&gt; it from being used in commercial, product-placement, this-vacation-photo-copyright-getty-images fashion.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
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