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	<title>Comments on: They didn&apos;t know they were icons...</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>They didn&apos;t know they were icons...</title>
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		<description>Over &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com/id/138381&quot;&gt;a half century ago&lt;/a&gt;, legendary Swiss photographer &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Frank&quot;&gt;Robert Frank&lt;/a&gt;  snapped &lt;a href=&quot;http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/26/frankindianapolis.jpg&quot;&gt;their picture&lt;/a&gt; as he was wrapping up what would become a groundbreaking outsider&apos;s perspective on the U.S., his two-year photo project&lt;/a&gt; entitled simply &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Americans_%28photography%29&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Americans&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/36541/Wwhy-should-we-remember-anything-There-is-too-much-to-remember-now-too-much-to-take-in&quot;&gt;previously on MeFi&lt;/a&gt;).

51 years later, now that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imamuseum.org/&quot;&gt;Indianapolis Museum of Art&lt;/a&gt; is opening TODAY an exhibit pairing all of Frank&apos;s 83 images from &lt;em&gt;The Americans&lt;/em&gt; together with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ontheroad.org/&quot;&gt;original scroll&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/47264/Kerouacs-The-Road-Online-Musicircus&quot;&gt;Jack Kerouac&apos;s &quot;On the Road&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; friends and relatives have identified &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080626/LOCAL18/806260433/1195/LOCAL18&quot;&gt;the couple who had never known they were so iconic&lt;/a&gt;! (&lt;a href=&quot;http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/06/mack-and-t.html&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:45:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Misciel</dc:creator>		<category>photography</category>
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		<title>By: [NOT HERMITOSIS-IST]</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163400</link>	
		<description>When I&apos;m 76, this is going to happen to me &lt;em&gt;all the time. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163419</link>	
		<description>A friend of mine was interviewing for a job when she noticed a picture on the interviewer&apos;s wall. It was a 5x7 photo of a massive pro-choice rally at the US Capitol, and right there in the middle, behind a large banner, yelling and gesticulating, the centerpiece of the shot, was my friend. She got the job.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:38:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: These Premises Are Alarmed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163474</link>	
		<description>Yay, the IMA! I try to go there whenever I&apos;m in town. Sometimes they hang my mother&apos;s paintings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:22:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163475</link>	
		<description>What an awesome story! Thank you for sharing!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:22:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Power Nap</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163497</link>	
		<description>I dunno, cool points all around.  I wouldn&apos;t mind having a print of that photo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:32:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163508</link>	
		<description>Props to IMA. It&apos;s one of the country&apos;s best overlooked museums. Well worth a visit when you are in town. Drop-dead beautiful location, too.

As for the photo...cool pic...but, honestly, I had never seen it before. Is it truly as &quot;iconic&quot; as the story purports? I mean, outside of Indianapolis...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:40:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163565</link>	
		<description>Great story, and I hope they give her a copy of the book.  (But like Thorzdad, I was surprised to see the &quot;iconic&quot; shot for the first time.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:39:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163566</link>	
		<description>Right, I&apos;ve never seen that photo before -- I question just how iconic it is. But it&apos;s a great photo, and a great story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:39:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163569</link>	
		<description>I used to live around the corner from the Chinese Theater in Hollwyood, and probably walked past it a million times. I know I was accidentally captured in hundreds of photosgraphs taken by tourists. I often wondered if groups of Japanese people, looking at each other&apos;s travel photos, ever said OH MY GOD, THAT EXACT SAME GUY IS IN MY PHOTO. (In Japanese, of course.)

On my darker days, I like to imagine an international cult has sprung up around me. And one day they will find me and make me their kind. I guess I might have to wait until I&apos;m 76, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:41:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cgc373</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163581</link>	
		<description>You&apos;re one of my kind, Astro Zombie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:49:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sleepy pete</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163583</link>	
		<description>Man, that&apos;s a great story and a great picture.  

For some reason I was reminded of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/arts/design/09poll.html&quot;&gt;Teri Horton and her Pollock painting&lt;/a&gt;, but the one that always cracks me up is how Claud Johnson was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robertjohnsonbluesfoundation.org/latimes.html&quot;&gt;vindicated by Eula Mae Williams when he claimed to be Robert Johnson&apos;s son &lt;/a&gt;(just read the whole story).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:50:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sleepy pete</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163589</link>	
		<description>whoops, read the whole story or skip to the Q &amp;amp; A with Williams.  I didn&apos;t really mean to tell y&apos;all what to do.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:53:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CheeseDigestsAll</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163591</link>	
		<description>A similar thing &lt;a href=&quot;http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2002/04/afghan-girl/index-text&quot;&gt;happened in Afghanistan&lt;/a&gt; a few years ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:53:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163659</link>	
		<description>Astro Zombie, I work across the street from the Capitol, and have often wondered the same thing about myself. I was, in fact, once interviewed by a South Korean TV crew--I&apos;m thinking I&apos;m kind of a pop culture figure over there now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:44:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163678</link>	
		<description>I saw another &quot;where are they now&quot; thing based one of of these Indiana photos by Frank, I think in Smithsonian, fairly recently. My Google-fu is weak today, though. It was another one of the biker pics, a fairly well known image of a couple of vulpine young men looking at the camera.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:55:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sys Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163843</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s weird: I was a Photo major in university, where I sat through countless presentations of his work; I live just a few hours&apos; drive from his reclusive hideaway, and I even know a few people who have been there, talked to him, and lived to tell the tale.  But never, ever--not even for a moment--did I ever realize that Robert Frank was &lt;strong&gt;Swiss.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:35:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
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		<description>Time to ask your college for a refund?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:33:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: localroger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163912</link>	
		<description>To me, the most poignant line, via Telester:  &quot;After that I didn&apos;t do much riding.  I started having children.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:17:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sys Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2163946</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;em&gt;Time to ask your college for a refund?&lt;/em&gt;
Nah.  It&apos;s not their fault that the campus is surrounded by pubs and clouded in pot smoke.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:14:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beelzbubba</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/72848/They-didnt-know-they-were-icons#2164099</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&apos;s weird: I was a Photo major in university, where I sat through countless presentations of his work; I live just a few hours&apos; drive from his reclusive hideaway, and I even know a few people who have been there, talked to him, and lived to tell the tale. But never, ever--not even for a moment--did I ever realize that Robert Frank was Swiss.
posted by Sys Rq at 2:35 PM on June 27 [+] [!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably b/c your instructor didn&apos;t make note of his nationality and pronounced his name &quot;Fraynk&quot; and not &quot;Fraahnk&quot;; a lot of photo teachers don&apos;t go beyond the surface.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:56:30 -0800</pubDate>
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