Randi: They must see the grief that I have seen. I've attended a great number of these things, always in disguise of course, and to see these people.... Well, after a Benny Hinn performance at Mapleleaf Gardens a few years ago... I sat across the street in a restaurant during a bit of a break, and there was a woman in there sobbing. A very large elderly woman sobbing, and she had her friend sitting with her.
I could hear her clearly, and she was saying "But I've been to eleven of the meetings now. I've followed him all over the United States and now into Canada, and I'm trying to get up on the stage. I need to be healed, I need his help. And they keep me back, they won't let me up there. And I keep giving money. I'm giving money all the time. I've gone into the CD's," I've done this and that.
And her companion leaned across and took her by the hand and she says "But dear, you haven't given everything yet. And Jesus requires that you give your all."
I got up and left the table. I wanted to upset their table. So angry, seething. So angry, it frightens me that I can get that angry. At these people, never mind Benny Hinn! He's only the instigator, the one who's getting the money. These people are being so bloody stupid! To go along with this kind of thing, to allow themselves to be taken to this depth."
Shermer: So this is your answer to the question, "Oh, what's the harm? C'mon, it gives them hope, makes them feel good."
Randi: Yep. That's where the harm is. They begin to depend on it and the begin to believe the crap that's being told them.
tippiedog: Kinda like playing the lottery.
DU: I'm talking about a visceral reaction to the shmoozing plasticity of the ultrasaleman. That voice. The hair. The fake smile. The obvious "techniques", like overusing my first name. I don't have to examine their financial records to know I want a shower after I shake their hands.
The first myth that must be dispelled is this notion about the “prosperity gospel.” The Bible clearly teaches giving and receiving. It says in Luke 6:38: “give and it shall be given to you, a good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over.” That is not Pat Robertson speaking. That is the Bible. And Pat does encourage giving, most importantly tithing to one’s local church. [...] Sizemore would have his readers conclude that Dr. Robertson believes in that discredited “prosperity gospel.”
The other thing that is so important which we've mentioned many times before is the law of reciprocity that says give and it will be given unto you. These are principles that God has put in his word. If you take what you've got and use it, you will have more. And he who thinks he's got something, even what he thinks he's got will be taken away from him if he doesn't use it. Now the other thing is to give and it will be given unto you.
If you just, number one, have a budget where you don't overspend. Number two, you begin to give unto the Lord substantially. And number three, you begin a certain saving program where money works for you and just let it grow and do its thing. You will be astounded at what will happen in 10, 15 to 20 years. People will say, "How did you get so much money?" "Well, it was easy because I followed the laws of God."
Many of you probably remember the song by Jefferson Airplane titled “Leaving On A Jet Plane”.
I'm sure some of it was a reaction to the equally false teaching that poverty was always holier, but still.
that seems a little... lazy
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