Wax on... wax off...
July 10, 2008 3:51 AM Subscribe
Fucking hilarious.
posted by tiger yang at 7:51 AM on July 10, 2008
posted by tiger yang at 7:51 AM on July 10, 2008
Thanks. This totally swept my leg.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 7:54 AM on July 10, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 7:54 AM on July 10, 2008 [1 favorite]
You're the best, around.
posted by tadellin at 9:13 AM on July 10, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by tadellin at 9:13 AM on July 10, 2008 [2 favorites]
I laughed at Martin Kove's assertion that "Rocky" doesn't have the staying power of "The Karate Kid".
And then I wondered if he was serious or just making a joke. It WAS Martin Kove, after all...
posted by tadellin at 9:47 AM on July 10, 2008
And then I wondered if he was serious or just making a joke. It WAS Martin Kove, after all...
posted by tadellin at 9:47 AM on July 10, 2008
This DID make my day. Thanks for posting it.
posted by Benevolent Space Robot at 10:02 AM on July 10, 2008
posted by Benevolent Space Robot at 10:02 AM on July 10, 2008
One of the best movie-going experiences of my youth!
posted by autodidact at 10:03 AM on July 10, 2008
posted by autodidact at 10:03 AM on July 10, 2008
Fixed.
posted by aftermarketradio at 11:08 AM on July 10, 2008
My favorite quote: "Who doesn't like Karate Kid? Nazis."
posted by tiger yang at 1:28 PM on July 10, 2008
posted by tiger yang at 1:28 PM on July 10, 2008
Civil, I was tempted to link in whole movie... but I was just to knackered after polishing all them cars.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:32 PM on July 10, 2008
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:32 PM on July 10, 2008
That was very funny.
The movie is indeed a classic. But as an example of everything not to do in martial arts. Chiefly: Danial-san deserved to lose.
Think about it. Mr. Miagi is a jerk and Daniel-san is a completely deluded whiny loser.
Does Daniel do any kind of conditioning specific to a fighting tournament? No. Does he actually learn any of the actual kata? No. It looks like he does some moves from Sanchin, a breathing kata. But that's it. Does he learn any specific techniques in context of fighting? No. Does he spar? Does Miagi even review the rules of the tournament? No. Does he train hard at all? Not unless waxing a car is considered hard training.
Miagi teaches Daniel a bunch of trumped mumbo jumbo for a couple of weeks just get free labor out of the kid all of which that has nothing to do with fighting. Goofy crap that is likely to get him killed in real life and even more likely to get him badly injured in a tournament. In fact it DOES get him badly injured. Mr. Miage does everything he can to deliberately fuck this kid up and NOT teach him anything. And he is drunk 90% of the time. What a role model.
But somehow, out of blind luck and playing on the moral hesitancy (who doesn't WANT to sweep the leg because Daniel, clearly his inferior, is so badly injured) of his opponent, Daniel-san wins the tournament with a lucky kick. I CALL SHENANIGANS!
And we're supposed to root for him?
Nah. Cobra Kai DESERVED to win.
They had the discipline. They did all the training and sweating. For years. And this asshole comes to their town, hits on their chicks, has the temerity to pick a fight with them—and loses poorly. Then enters a tournament with no real training or conditioning at all and for all the wrong reasons — for revenge. How fucked up is that.
Nah as a former Karate instructor all I can say is:
GO COBRA KAI!!!!
posted by tkchrist at 6:14 PM on July 10, 2008
The movie is indeed a classic. But as an example of everything not to do in martial arts. Chiefly: Danial-san deserved to lose.
Think about it. Mr. Miagi is a jerk and Daniel-san is a completely deluded whiny loser.
Does Daniel do any kind of conditioning specific to a fighting tournament? No. Does he actually learn any of the actual kata? No. It looks like he does some moves from Sanchin, a breathing kata. But that's it. Does he learn any specific techniques in context of fighting? No. Does he spar? Does Miagi even review the rules of the tournament? No. Does he train hard at all? Not unless waxing a car is considered hard training.
Miagi teaches Daniel a bunch of trumped mumbo jumbo for a couple of weeks just get free labor out of the kid all of which that has nothing to do with fighting. Goofy crap that is likely to get him killed in real life and even more likely to get him badly injured in a tournament. In fact it DOES get him badly injured. Mr. Miage does everything he can to deliberately fuck this kid up and NOT teach him anything. And he is drunk 90% of the time. What a role model.
But somehow, out of blind luck and playing on the moral hesitancy (who doesn't WANT to sweep the leg because Daniel, clearly his inferior, is so badly injured) of his opponent, Daniel-san wins the tournament with a lucky kick. I CALL SHENANIGANS!
And we're supposed to root for him?
Nah. Cobra Kai DESERVED to win.
They had the discipline. They did all the training and sweating. For years. And this asshole comes to their town, hits on their chicks, has the temerity to pick a fight with them—and loses poorly. Then enters a tournament with no real training or conditioning at all and for all the wrong reasons — for revenge. How fucked up is that.
Nah as a former Karate instructor all I can say is:
GO COBRA KAI!!!!
posted by tkchrist at 6:14 PM on July 10, 2008
I loves me some iconiclasm here and there, but a few points of clarification need to be made, in fairness:
Does Daniel do any kind of conditioning specific to a fighting tournament?
Presumably he already has some fighting experience, though it's clearly undeveloped at the beginning of the movie. If we are to believe Daniel, he admits to getting into a few scrapes in Newark. It's easy to dismiss this as fanciful boasting to impress some new friends, but that ignores one oft-overlooked point in the movie: that it's Daniel, and not the Cobra Kai, that initiates most of the fights. He's a scrapper, and yes, he takes quite a few beatings because frankly, he's just not a very good fighter.
If you completely ignore the circumstances of the confrontations, it's easy to take the contrarian viewpoint. But remember each time he actually has the moral high ground. The first fight, he steps in after Johnny pushes Ali and breaks her radio. Was it his business to stick his nose into? No, probably not. I suppose he could have just stayed an innocent bystander and watch as this cocky asshole pushes a girl around. But that's not his character, and I think you'd agree, tkchrist, that even though he gets his ass handed to him, Daniel was clearly in the right.
The second time around, the Cobra Kai push him off a steep hill while he's on his bike. He didn't do anything to them. I don't know how you can proclaim the Cobra Kai's greatness when they pull this kind of shit. That's assault with deadly intent... and those are the guys you're rooting for?
The next time is on the soccer field, and Bobby is the instigator. So all you're left with is the Halloween dance incident. And for the terrible crime of pouring water on Johnny, Daniel almost gets killed.
a bunch of trumped mumbo jumbo for a couple of weeks just get free labor out of the kid all of which that has nothing to do with fighting
If you didn't get the wax-on, wax-off scene, I don't know what to tell you. But yeah, he clearly wasn't a conditioned soldier like the Cobra Kai. But they only use their finely honed skills to pick fights with woefully underwhelming opponents. And only when it's 5 against 1, as Mr. Miyagi kindly points out to Kaptain Cobra Kai.
And he is drunk 90% of the time. What a role model.
Dude, re-watch the movie and try again. He's drunk one night of the year--the anniversary of his wife and unborn son's death. Did you happen to catch that she died in one of the American Japanese internment camps? Goes a long way to explaining why she died in childbirth. Meanwhile, Mr. Miyagi is out fighting for his country earning medals of valor. What I'm saying is... I think you should cut him some slack.
and for all the wrong reasons — for revenge. How fucked up is that.
Again, your memory of the movie isn't very sharp. The only reason he enters the tournament is because the sensai of the Cobra Kai tells him it's the only way he can avoid the beatings he's receiving on a daily basis. He stays in the tournament after he's injured because he knows if he quits the Cobra Kai will never stop harassing him.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 7:20 PM on July 10, 2008 [3 favorites]
Does Daniel do any kind of conditioning specific to a fighting tournament?
Presumably he already has some fighting experience, though it's clearly undeveloped at the beginning of the movie. If we are to believe Daniel, he admits to getting into a few scrapes in Newark. It's easy to dismiss this as fanciful boasting to impress some new friends, but that ignores one oft-overlooked point in the movie: that it's Daniel, and not the Cobra Kai, that initiates most of the fights. He's a scrapper, and yes, he takes quite a few beatings because frankly, he's just not a very good fighter.
If you completely ignore the circumstances of the confrontations, it's easy to take the contrarian viewpoint. But remember each time he actually has the moral high ground. The first fight, he steps in after Johnny pushes Ali and breaks her radio. Was it his business to stick his nose into? No, probably not. I suppose he could have just stayed an innocent bystander and watch as this cocky asshole pushes a girl around. But that's not his character, and I think you'd agree, tkchrist, that even though he gets his ass handed to him, Daniel was clearly in the right.
The second time around, the Cobra Kai push him off a steep hill while he's on his bike. He didn't do anything to them. I don't know how you can proclaim the Cobra Kai's greatness when they pull this kind of shit. That's assault with deadly intent... and those are the guys you're rooting for?
The next time is on the soccer field, and Bobby is the instigator. So all you're left with is the Halloween dance incident. And for the terrible crime of pouring water on Johnny, Daniel almost gets killed.
a bunch of trumped mumbo jumbo for a couple of weeks just get free labor out of the kid all of which that has nothing to do with fighting
If you didn't get the wax-on, wax-off scene, I don't know what to tell you. But yeah, he clearly wasn't a conditioned soldier like the Cobra Kai. But they only use their finely honed skills to pick fights with woefully underwhelming opponents. And only when it's 5 against 1, as Mr. Miyagi kindly points out to Kaptain Cobra Kai.
And he is drunk 90% of the time. What a role model.
Dude, re-watch the movie and try again. He's drunk one night of the year--the anniversary of his wife and unborn son's death. Did you happen to catch that she died in one of the American Japanese internment camps? Goes a long way to explaining why she died in childbirth. Meanwhile, Mr. Miyagi is out fighting for his country earning medals of valor. What I'm saying is... I think you should cut him some slack.
and for all the wrong reasons — for revenge. How fucked up is that.
Again, your memory of the movie isn't very sharp. The only reason he enters the tournament is because the sensai of the Cobra Kai tells him it's the only way he can avoid the beatings he's receiving on a daily basis. He stays in the tournament after he's injured because he knows if he quits the Cobra Kai will never stop harassing him.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 7:20 PM on July 10, 2008 [3 favorites]
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Banzai = Cry of the charging horde of Japanese soldiers.
Of course Mr. Miyagi mixed them as well.....
posted by Agamenticus at 4:41 AM on July 10, 2008