Comments on: Duke Nukem Trilogy

Duke Nukem Trilogy

CheshireCat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:49:19 -0800

The developers of the long awaited ~~vaporware title~~ masterpiece, Duke Nukem Forever, had previously expressed their disdain for the E3 game conference, calling it "irrelevant nowadays," but in a surprise move they showed up for the conference and released this stunning four minute trailer for the three new handheld Duke games that are in development. "Duke Nukem Trilogy trailer redefines awesome," declares joystiq.com

By: milarepa

milarepa — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:53:41 -0800

Release Date: Neveruary, 33rd.

By: zippy

zippy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:59:25 -0800

released this stunning four minute trailer Pain can indeed be stunning.

By: East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94

East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:05:22 -0800

That was by far the greatest thing I've ever seen. It makes Jean Renoir look like a douche. Well worth eleven years of labor.

By: The Light Fantastic

The Light Fantastic — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:05:37 -0800

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! Hooo! Whew! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 1995 called and it wants its....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! can't breath

By: jeffamaphone

jeffamaphone — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:05:46 -0800

I call bullshit. Now instead of one game that's never going to ship there are three games that are never going to ship? I sat through that trailer and its four minutes of total wasted time. Not a single in-game shot? They make great trailers, but they're not even working on this game any more. They just showed up with this to make fun of E3 and everyone who cares about the never ending saga of the best game ever that never shipped.

By: aGee

aGee — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:06:23 -0800

How is that a trailer? Its just a bunch of crap flashing on the screen. I bet someone here could make a better one in Final Cut Pro.

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:06:38 -0800

I think DNF should be turned over to Flagship Studios for further development. What?

By: ardgedee

ardgedee — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:08:20 -0800

Is anybody actually waiting for this in anticipation of buying it? It's a tribute to the company's management that the investors haven't dissolved it and sold off the assets -- they must be the best salesmen in the universe.

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:12:28 -0800

Duke Nukem Trilogy trailer redefines awesome Mission accomplished! Awesome redefined! Apparently now means rather less than before!

By: nedpwolf

nedpwolf — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:12:55 -0800

They are correct. It is a complete redefinition of awesome.

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:14:44 -0800

Uh, were there any actual details about the games in that trailer? Even screenshots?

By: null terminated

null terminated — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:16:06 -0800

I yearn for the days of cakefarts, when links met my expectations.

By: box

box — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:18:29 -0800

About two minutes in, when they just said 'fuck it' and just started mashing the backing-video-for-industrial-band button, it started to grow on me, in a ytmnd kinda way.

By: quin

quin — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:19:20 -0800

Personally, I think they are just turning into the skid at this point. They know it's never going to get done and they are having fun with it by releasing silly videos of the title flashing over and over and whizzing in and out of frame. It's so absurd that it's actually kind of brilliant.

By: notsnot

notsnot — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:19:25 -0800

Nice mid-90's metalwank soundtrack. Kinda fitting.

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:22:31 -0800

I'm convinced that the "Duke Nukem Forever fiasco" is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the gaming community. There is no game. There never was a game. There was never even a plan for a game. It's all just a colossal inside joke.

By: porn in the woods

porn in the woods — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:23:33 -0800

Soundtrack on the new Duke Nukem handheld games: Chinese Democracy by Guns & Roses, and some cuts from My Bloody Valentine's follow-up to Loveless.

By: Dark Messiah

Dark Messiah — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:28:02 -0800

I wish they'd hurry up and release DNF; I need a new "best game ever" because my Daikatana LAN parties are suffering a lack of interest these days.

By: Xoebe

Xoebe — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:28:45 -0800

"Duke Nukem Trilogy trailer redefines awesome" You can say that again.

By: jeffamaphone

jeffamaphone — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:30:03 -0800

There must have been a game at some point. I worked with a developer that I respect quite a bit and he left the company for which we both worked at the time to move to Texas and work on Duke 3D. He was really convinced it was "almost done." I think this was about a year or year and a half ago. I mean, he wouldn't have left a really good job and moved halfway across the country without to work on the most notorious piece of vaporware ever without seeing some running code, right? Right? Please?

By: DU

DU — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:30:28 -0800

There was never even an inside joke, nor a plan for one. This thing goes all the way to the top. Trust no one.

By: ardgedee

ardgedee — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:34:05 -0800

Took a while to download and finally watched it over lunch break. This looks like a video loop to play on overhead displays to attract a crowd. It doesn't look like a trailer at all. It's ineptly done even for what I think it is, but these things aren't meant to be watched from beginning to end, or even be in the foreground of your attention. Also: This post needs 'gasmask' tag.

By: Justinian

Justinian — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:34:41 -0800

CUSTOMERS WHO BOUGHT THIS ITEM ALSO BOUGHT: The Last Dangerous Visions - Harlan Ellison, A Method for Madness - David Gerrold, A Dance with Dragons - George R. R. Martin.

By: DU

DU — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:34:58 -0800

Wait a minute--all they have is some captions and a single picture of Duke? Duke NukeM Forever: The gift that keeps on giving.

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:38:27 -0800

I hear there's a mod you can use to make Doom look like Star Wars!

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:39:17 -0800

Justinian - You forgot Chinese Democracy.

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:41:13 -0800

/weeps for the fallen Team Fortress 2 jokes that could have been used here had they not actually released it.

By: The Light Fantastic

The Light Fantastic — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:41:28 -0800

Hail to the king, baby.

By: Justinian

Justinian — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:44:12 -0800

Artw - and Stars in My Pockets Like Grains of Sand.

By: Justinian

Justinian — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:45:04 -0800

Wait, what am I thinking? That's the one that actually got written. I meant "The Splendor and Misery of Bodies, of Cities".

By: rmd1023

rmd1023 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:52:21 -0800

and harlan ellison has announced that "the last dangerous visions" is still a viable project!

By: sidereal

sidereal — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:53:12 -0800

Absolutely brilliant. I'm still laughing at the trailer, forwarding link to friends, etc. WIN. Nice work, guys.

By: decagon

decagon — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:53:37 -0800

In terms of development time: (Apollo 11 + atom bomb) < Duke Nukem Forever.

By: CheshireCat

CheshireCat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:58 -0800

ardgedee, it might very well just be a video loop but everyone on the internet has been calling it a trailer so far and actual context for the video is scant to say the least. I do like the idea that they might have actually sat people down in a room somewhere to watch this. aGee, for all I know they did make that in Final Cut Pro. Also, the full quote from the body of the joystiq.com piece: Duke Nukem Trilogy trailer redefines awesome... unfortunately, the redefinition is "something that sucks."

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:58:17 -0800

If you turn the sound off it really highlights the vapidity of the trailer. Also how did Sam Raimi never press charges against the Duke Nukem people for grand theft one-liner?

By: Class Goat

Class Goat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:15:52 -0800

I've wondered if what's really going on is that if they ever admit that Duke Nukem Forever won't come out, and kill the project, then they'll have to write off all the money that was invested in it. As long as the project "continues" they can keep that loss off their books.

By: Target Practice

Target Practice — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:18:15 -0800

I don't see any particular reason to believe these games won't come out. After all, in the time that DNF has been in production, there were a number of (mostly mediocre) Duke Nukem games released: # Duke Nukem: Time to Kill - 1998 - PlayStation # Duke Nukem: Zero Hour - 1999 - Nintendo 64 # Duke Nukem - 1999 - Game Boy Color # Duke Nukem: Land of the Babes - 2000 - PlayStation # Duke Nukem Advance - 2002 - Game Boy Advance # Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project - 2002 - Microsoft Windows # Duke Nukem Mobile - 2004 - Tapwave Zodiac # Duke Nukem Mobile - 2004 - Cellular Phones # Duke Nukem Mobile II: Bikini Project - 2005 - Cellular Phones # Duke Nukem Mobile 3D - 2005 - Cellular Phones ... I don't know about the others, but Time to Kill, Zero Hour, Land of the Babes, Manhattan Project and Duke Nukem Advance were all original games, too. Mind you, I'm pretty sure all of those games were farmed out to other developers, so maybe the issue here is in believing Apogee itself will actually work on these games.

By: mkultra

mkultra — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:19:55 -0800

I hear they're re-writing it as a Facebook app.

By: Horace Rumpole

Horace Rumpole — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:21:56 -0800

It's all just a colossal inside joke. Next year's trailer.

By: Caduceus

Caduceus — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:27:17 -0800

I don't think that DNF is a joke. I think the developers are the jokes. Walking, talking, anthropomorphic jokes, given flesh and form by some sort of dark god, doomed forever to be the brunt of scorn from every gamer on the internet. Nothing but shells of human beings, broken and lost. The saddest thing of all is that Duke Nukem 3D wasn't even that good a game.

By: porn in the woods

porn in the woods — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:31:23 -0800

I played Duke Nukem (and the follow-up Shadow Warrior) quite a bit on my Power Mac 7500 back in the pre-Voodoo 2 card days. If they could put out an updated DNF using the Quake or Unreal engine, I'd give it a try, but I think that this franchise is better off remaining an vaporware punchline.

By: sonic meat machine

sonic meat machine — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:39:47 -0800

I know a guy who thought Duke Nukem 3D was better than Half-Life. We don't talk much.

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:47:45 -0800

It had better jokes.

By: Avenger

Avenger — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:04:30 -0800

The real joke here is that Duke Nukem was never that great of a franchise, even in the 90's. It was just re-heated Doom with pop-culture references. Also, I vaguely remember seeing some "screenshots" from DNF in a gamer's magazine back in, what, 2001?

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:09:37 -0800

It was just re-heated Doom with pop-culture references. Wasn't it full 3D vs. Dooms tied-to-a-2.5D-plane? It was certainly better in some way. Objects and monsters were still bitmaps though.

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:10:48 -0800

(Probably half of the FPPs tagged with vaporware either mention DNF or go to articles mentioning it)

By: BrotherCaine

BrotherCaine — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:11:54 -0800

Y'all know they are taking the piss, right? Shakespeherian, "Chew bubble gum and kick ass" is a line ad-libbed by Roddy Piper in 'They Live' directed by John Carpenter. Unless you meant something else when you mentioned stealing from Raimi.

By: pyrex

pyrex — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:21:27 -0800

I've always wondered how 3D Realms has been staying afloat during this decade+ fiasco. Just checked their site, apparently they're still selling their ancient games for $10 a pop. Don't really think that's supported them much, but can they really get enough financing to keep going just from licensing their stuff?

By: seanmpuckett

seanmpuckett — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:25:42 -0800

Duke Nukem had dancing strippers, something Doom never had.

By: jfuller

jfuller — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:32:49 -0800

Apogee? What about the next Commander Keen?

By: camcgee

camcgee — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:33:39 -0800

Unless you meant something else when you mentioned stealing from Raimi. I think he meant "Who wants some?" (spoken by Ash in Raimi's Army of Darkness)

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:11:47 -0800

"Chew bubble gum and kick ass" is a line ad-libbed by Roddy Piper in 'They Live' directed by John Carpenter. Sure, it was featured in that film, but my stepfather had been saying it for decades prior to that movie, which he never saw. I think he picked it up from the Navy in the late 50s, early 60s.

By: Dark Messiah

Dark Messiah — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:22:00 -0800

I think he meant "Who wants some?" (spoken by Ash in Raimi's Army of Darkness) Or the boomstick references...

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:35:05 -0800

Duke Nuk-coming soon....

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:37:57 -0800

They should have Chinese Democracy as the in-game music... that would rock!

By: Artw

Artw — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:45:28 -0800

"You've got shit shoes!"

By: the other side

the other side — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:09:48 -0800

I think he meant "Who wants some?" (spoken by Ash in Raimi's Army of Darkness Or "Hail to the king, baby!" And just to derail a little bit further, from an interview with Bruce Campbell: V: Are you familiar with the game Duke Nukem 3-D? If so, are you aware of the similarities between its lead character and Ash in the way of mentality and catch phrases? Are you flattered by this sort of "borrowing" of your work? BC: What can I say? Maybe they're just cheese-balls who can't conceive of an original idea and feel compelled to rip off Ash. Imitation is indeed a form of flattery, but paying a guy is an even better form. And another with Campbell: IGN For Men: The Duke Nukem videogame character is obviously an homage to you, at least your attitude... Bruce Campbell: What?! IGN For Men: The Duke Nukem character? Bruce Campbell: Really? IGN For Men: I would say so. Bruce Campbell: I'm kidding, I'm well aware of Duke Nukem. IGN For Men: Have you been approached for the movie at all? Bruce Campbell: No, and I would say no because of the way they've handled it. IGN For Men: How have they handled it? Bruce Campbell: Well, they're rip-off artists. Let them get their own damn material. It's called hiring a writer. They're blatantly ripping it off and if I was any kind of litigious guy they would've gotten a phone call by now. It's depressing and I think it's wrong. That's why Tachyon: The Fringe will kick little Duke's ass any day.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:09:56 -0800

Wake me when they announce a new Shadow Warrior.

By: porn in the woods

porn in the woods — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:11:32 -0800

At the time, I liked Duke's ability to blow up his environment - I don't know of a game before DN that let you blow up toilets, mirrors and strippers. Some of his one-liners were pretty good, as well. I recall a level set in a supermarket where you could shoot the PA speakers to turn off the Muzak, and Duke would say "Turn that crap off!" He'd also belt out "Cleanup on aisle 5!" after a particularly grisly alien kill. Not a bad game at all.

By: stet

stet — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:41:51 -0800

They'll release it as soon as the finalize the product placement for the second season of Firefly.

By: rokusan

rokusan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:22:31 -0800

Imitation is indeed a form of flattery, but paying a guy is an even better form. Saved to best quotes ever list.

By: Sir Mildred Pierce

Sir Mildred Pierce — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:27:33 -0800

"stunning four minute trailer" Is your use of the word stunning meant to be ironic or something? Or are you simply unaware of the word's meaning?

By: darkripper

darkripper — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:43:20 -0800

I've seen some gameplay awhile ago in a show by some developer turned showman (can't find the video, sorry). The interface looks like half life 2, the rest, well, looks fine graphically but at the same time feels a bit aged. Fact is, while the duke was away his bombastic style went to the side of the FPS genre. Duke's followers (Serious Sam, Painkiller, others I don't remember at the moment) are a niche of the whole genre now. Most of FPS players today want other things. They have never played the previous game. They maybe know about it just because it's a cautionary tale on game development that games magazine love to tell once in awhile. Still, there's hope for Broussard & co because of the cult status. Someone will get the game just tell "I was there", especially if it will be painfully bad. I know a lot of people who rushed to the shops to get Limbo of the Lost.

By: rokusan

rokusan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:05:21 -0800

I know a lot of people who rushed to the shops to get Limbo of the Lost. Bah, Limbo of the Lost is nothing next to Left Behind.

By: robtf3

robtf3 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:05:28 -0800

They should have done the trailer in html using nothing but blink, marquee and background music that you can't turn off.

By: Mitrovarr

Mitrovarr — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:33:19 -0800

For people who haven't seen it, this site is an excellent take on just how badly 3D Realms has been owned by their development schedule. For example, the entirety of the Unreal series has been released since Duke Nukem Forever was released.

By: reiichiroh

reiichiroh — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:37:58 -0800

jeffamaphone: brian hook?

By: ben242

ben242 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:49:21 -0800

I'm totally buying this game when the package it with they Phantom.

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:56:01 -0800

Stunningly bad. Three minutes of animated logos?

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:11:01 -0800

Wasn't it full 3D vs. Dooms tied-to-a-2.5D-plane? It was certainly better in some way. Objects and monsters were still bitmaps though. Nah, it wasn't quite as limited as Doom but it wasn't full 3D - they used some distortion tricks to fake changing the camera pitch, for one. Quake 1 is still the first major truly 3D FPS that I'm aware of.

By: Optimus Chyme

Optimus Chyme — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:23:35 -0800

Unimaginably bad. Worse than I expected, and I didn't expect much. It was so bad that I'm actually angry at the developers of a game - an entire series - that I never cared about. I just want them to be punished for being really fucking bad at their jobs. Where does the money come from? How do they pay the bills? Four fucking minutes of logos enlarging and shrinking to some godawful music. Note to whoever was paid to do that: I want to choke you to death. No kidding.

By: Pyry

Pyry — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:26:30 -0800

Quake 1 is still the first major truly 3D FPS that I'm aware of. Descent came a year earlier.

By: darkripper

darkripper — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:27:46 -0800

Found it! Somewhere in this video you'll find some DNF gameplay. Like, for real.

By: parmanparman

parmanparman — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:05 -0800

I just watched the shittiest four minute introduction to a piece of bullshit.

By: Mitrovarr

Mitrovarr — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:01:11 -0800

Pyry: Descent came a year earlier. Descent is traditionally considered a space sim, not an FPS. Still, it's true that it did pre-date it. It's a pity the series died such an ignominious death, since I rather liked it.

By: stavrogin

stavrogin — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:22:30 -0800

The full extent of this didn't really hit me until I realized that Britney Spears rose and fell since Duke Nukem Forever was announced.

By: kaibutsu

kaibutsu — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:35:30 -0800

Aye; Descent rocked. And it was entirely an FPS; it was set in mines (on other planets, I'll grant you) and had physics that no one in their right mind would call 'simulation'. But the level design was incredible and the full-3d freedom was great fun to master.

By: Justinian

Justinian — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:38:19 -0800

Well, hell, if you're counting Descent why not count Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss. That came out in like 1992.

By: rxrfrx

rxrfrx — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:48:03 -0800

Did I just get rickrolled?

By: ArkhanJG

ArkhanJG — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:43:08 -0800

dukerolled, maybe.

By: A Thousand Baited Hooks

A Thousand Baited Hooks — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:14:18 -0800

Several people in this thread seem to be confusing Duke Nukem 3D with the original Duke Nukem, a Commander Keen-like platformer released in 1991. Neither of them were good. I remember going to a LAN party sometime in the '90s where people were playing DN3D in preference to Quake. Inexplicable. No idea where exactly in my brain these pointless facts are stuck, but they're there and you now have the benefit of them.

By: BrotherCaine

BrotherCaine — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:46:07 -0800

Ultima Underworld was awesome, I can't believe those Daikatana assholes managed to run so over budget that they effectively killed Looking Glass.

By: Justinian

Justinian — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:27:25 -0800

Yeah, UU was indeed awesome. Makes you long for the days of original games instead of the latest RTS or FPS retread. Sorry, Duke.

By: Artw

Artw — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:43:03 -0800

Ultima Underworld Isn't that just Dungeon Master?

By: robcorr

robcorr — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:47:02 -0800

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they didn't release new Duke Nukem games for handhelds, as long as they let me play the old platformers on my DS. And Crystal Caves, and Commander Keen.

By: Civil_Disobedient

Civil_Disobedient — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:31:44 -0800

I remember going to a LAN party sometime in the '90s where people were playing DN3D in preference to Quake. Inexplicable. Count me among the crazy, then. Duke Nukem 3D was a fantastic game, made all the better because of the jetpack. Being able to fly around added a whole new dimension to the gameplay, particularly in death matches. They even had hotkeys to choose a Duke "catch-phrase" to say to your opponent after slaughtering them.

By: BrotherCaine

BrotherCaine — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:15:31 -0800

I'll see your Dungeon Master(1987) and raise you a Dungeons of Daggorath(1982).

By: mkultra

mkultra — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:20:20 -0800

BrotherCaine: Dungeons of Daggorath Oh damn, you've just kicked my nostalgia into overdrive. I spent hours playing that game. Even more hours loading it from the cassette player.

By: Artw

Artw — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:30:10 -0800

3D Monster maze, released in 1982, shortly after Duke Nukem Forever was announced.

By: Artw

Artw — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:30:26 -0800

81, even.

By: turgid dahlia

turgid dahlia — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:24:05 -0800

I just came in here to say that 8-player Blood (plus beer and pizza, natch) is still the best multiplayer fun-time gaming experience I have ever had in my life. Yes, even better than Battlefield 1942 and Gears of War.

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:07:16 -0800

Descent came a year earlier. Sorry, I should have been more specific - Quake was the first FPS I'm aware of that supported true arbitrary level geometry - Descent was a portal engine that only supported interconnected convex cubes, which is pretty limiting from a designer's perspective. That's not to say Descent wasn't immense fun, because it rocked, just that it wasn't 'real' 3D anymore than Doom or UU or DN3D were. All of those, come to think of it, were great games.

By: Artw

Artw — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:18:58 -0800

Any love for Marathon out there?

By: Halloween Jack

Halloween Jack — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:30:44 -0800

Artw: I heart Marathon (and most of the mods and TCs) madly.

By: camcgee

camcgee — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:48:42 -0800

Any love for Marathon out there? Marathon and the sequels were great, particularly considering the traditionally bleak gaming-on-a-Mac world into which they sprung. I should probably play Halo someday -- I haven't really given it a chance to see if it lived up to my enjoyment of Marathon.

By: Artw

Artw — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:54:12 -0800

I'm not hugely into Halo, but from what I've seen it lacks character by comparison. It's all very well doen though.

By: quin

quin — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:09:19 -0800

Marathon and the sequels were great I would consider the Halo franchise to be Marathon sequels. The plot is similar, the weapons share many of the same names, and you are being driven forward in the plot by a number of increasingly paranoid AIs. Also, the Marathon logo is plastered all over the Halo universe.

By: Artw

Artw — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:24:10 -0800

Marathon is probably my favourite title of the 2.5D era, though I had a soft spot for Star Wars: Dark Forces on the grounds that it was nicely Star Warsy.