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The Music Lists

carsonb — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:35:53 -0800

The Greatest Frontmen of Rock
The Greatest Acoustic Guitar Albums
The Greatest Punk Rock Songs
The Greatest Britpop Artists
The Greatest 'Live' Blues Albums
The Top 10 Songs by the Greatest Jazz Artists
The 50 Greatest Classical Tone Poems
The Greatest Glam/Hair Metal Songs
The Greatest Country Love Songs
The Top 100 Songs of 1967
The Greatest Underrated Rock Artists
The Greatest Girl-Group Songs
The Greatest Rap/Hip-Hop Lyricists/Emcees

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By: The Great Big Mulp

The Great Big Mulp — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:41:53 -0800

That'll show my girlfriend once and for all that 2pac is better than Nas.

By: The Great Big Mulp

The Great Big Mulp — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:42:29 -0800

It's true. Really.

By: Bookhouse

Bookhouse — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:43:33 -0800

How to be the greatest front man in rock: 1). Don't be in a rock band. 2). Don't play rock & roll Hmm.

By: found missing

found missing — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:43:49 -0800

Can you give me a list of the greatest of these lists?

By: Durn Bronzefist

Durn Bronzefist — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:44:28 -0800

The Greatest "But what about -- ?!" Thread Of All Time.

By: xmutex

xmutex — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:45:39 -0800

Uh? James Brown?

By: kuujjuarapik

kuujjuarapik — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:47:55 -0800

The Greatest Arguably Unsubstantiated "Best Of" Lists List

By: Bookhouse

Bookhouse — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:48:33 -0800

Okay, obviously lists like these were meant to be picked apart and debated, but putting "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?" over "Be My Baby" strikes me as a soul-deep perversion.

By: rodgerd

rodgerd — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:53:36 -0800

Mick Jagger at 3? You must be joking...

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:00:06 -0800

Greatest list about Greatest Lists 1. "greatest lists suck butt" 2. "why do people feel the need to tell people who's better than other people" 3. "but what about?" 4. "any greatest list by Rolling Stone magazine sucks two butts" 5. "this list sucks butt"

By: clearly

clearly — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:04:28 -0800

Yea well, you know, that's just like your opinion, man.

By: milnak

milnak — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:06:04 -0800

"Top 10 Songs By The Greatest Jazz Artists" I don't get this list. If it means "top 10 compositions by the greatest jazz artists", then many of the compositions listed aren't by the artist they're associated with. If it means "top 10 song performances by the greatest jazz artists", then it's meaningless without an associated version, as jazz artists can record the same song several times across different albums.

By: clearly

clearly — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:07:32 -0800

At least you don't have to scroll through 50 pages finding out that their favorite band sucks. I will give them that.

By: fixedgear

fixedgear — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:09:24 -0800

Your favorite band sucks, my favorite band sucks, this will not end well.

By: sadiehawkinstein

sadiehawkinstein — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:15:53 -0800

They caught and drowned the front man Of the world's worst rock & roll band. He was out of luck, because nobody gave a fuck. The jury gathered all around the aqueduct. Drinking and laughing and lighting up. Reminiscing just how bad he sucked, singing Throw him in the river. Throw him in the river. Throw him in the river. Throw the bastard in the river. And way up in the sky, Is the leader of the greatest band of all time. Blasted from a plane, Heading back home to the u. s. a. The people gathered all around the radio. To hear the transmissions from the devil's soul. Locked and stunned and sick and cold. Toasting to their hero. Toasting to their hero. Toasting to their hero. A toast to their dead hero. The underground is overcrowded. (4 times) The people gathered all around the radio. To hear the transmissions from the devil's soul. Locked and stunned and sick and cold. Toasting their dead hero. Toasting their dead hero. Toasting their dead hero. A toast to thier dead hero.

By: Senator

Senator — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:17:14 -0800

One thing I know. People love list.

By: trip and a half

trip and a half — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:22:41 -0800

I do not see Haircut 100 on the "Greatest Britpop Artists" list, so I'm afraid this is pants.

By: digaman

digaman — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0800

I only made it through one list -- the acoustic guitar one -- when I already came across a problem. There are three Steve Tibbetts albums on it. Well, guess what? I'm a Steve Tibbetts fanatic. The man's a genius. I have everything he ever released, and even sent him fan mail once (which he sweetly answered). But three Tibbets albums (in the wrong order, but nevermind) -- and no listing for the first Crosby, Stills, and Nash album, which launched an entire movement (for better and worse) of primarily acoustic singer-songwriters? Is this the strictly no-vocals list or something? Well, nooo, because Jorma Kaukonen's great album Quah is on it, which features Jorma's vocals as well as guitar. I'll sift the list for recommendations I've never heard of, but I dunno.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:25:12 -0800

Someone get me off this listing ship.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:32:06 -0800

I do not see Haircut 100 on the "Greatest Britpop Artists" list, so I'm afraid this is pants. I'm pleased to see that matt allows the deaf and retarded to post here. Yay, equality.

By: digaman

digaman — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:33:51 -0800

Hilarious, flap.

By: Max Power

Max Power — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:35:59 -0800

Shenanigans! I call shenanigans! That greatest punk rock list blows fat chunks.

By: Postroad

Postroad — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:38:43 -0800

I have gone through each and every list and checked out each and every entry. I agree with everything on every list. thanks.

By: furtive

furtive — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:39:11 -0800

/me cues up the ol' Cabos.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:41:51 -0800

That greatest punk rock list blows fat chunks. yeah. Only one Dictators song and it's at #69 and it's 'Weekend' instead of 'Next Big Thing,' or 'Master race Rock.'

By: trip and a half

trip and a half — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:42:13 -0800

I do not see Haircut 100 on the "Greatest Britpop Artists" list, so I'm afraid this is pants. I'm pleased to see that matt allows the deaf and retarded to post here. Yay, equality. I'm pleased to see that those without a sense of sarcasm are welcome, too!

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:43:20 -0800

and the hair metal list dosen't include 'Bathroom Wall" by faster Pussycat. These people have shit for brains.

By: deadmessenger

deadmessenger — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:58:29 -0800

Robert Plant is on the frontmen list below Bruce Dickinson, Axl Rose, Ian Anderson, Eddie Vedder, David Lee Roth, David Byrne, Stephen Tyler, and Iggy Pop. Next. Post. Please.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:59:55 -0800

I'm pleased to see that those without a sense of sarcasm are welcome, too! or maybe you're just not all that good at sarcasm, shecky.

By: Senator

Senator — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:05:24 -0800

Fly High Michelle and New Thing are not in the top 10 for hair metal pop jazz rap list. Enuff Z'Nuff shall not be denied.

By: decagon

decagon — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:07:21 -0800

Disclaimer: There is nothing 'Official' about these lists. Wow, good thing they let us know. And here I was thinking this was the internationally-sanctioned standard by which all Hair/Glam Metal Songs were ranked. Courtesy of L'Académie Hair/Glam Metal.

By: trip and a half

trip and a half — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:13:25 -0800

I'm pleased to see that those without a sense of sarcasm are welcome, too! or maybe you're just not all that good at sarcasm, shecky. Could be. Probably so.

By: scody

scody — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:15:22 -0800

Paul Weller only ranks #18 on the list of Greatest Britpop Artists, yet Oasis ranks #1? The irony being, of course, that Oasis wouldn't freakin' exist without Weller's influence (and who, it must be said, wouldn't have been the influence he was without the Kinks or the Small Faces). Seriously, you can trace about half of What's the Story, Morning Glory to Weller's guitar break in "Hung Up" from Wild Wood. But I digress in that silly fangirl way. Hmph.

By: glycolized

glycolized — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:19:31 -0800

1st link Ctrl + F "zander" not even in the top 100. bah!

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:20:21 -0800

i will say the best songs of 1967 list was good - i'd have a hard time coming up with a better list than that however any list that puts charlie watts as #53 in the best rock drummer category is really missing it

By: stargell

stargell — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:36:29 -0800

They've got Alternative Ulster but not Suspect Device on the Greatest Punk Songs list, which is a mistake. Otherwise, dead solid perfect on all counts!

By: Benny Andajetz

Benny Andajetz — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:37:52 -0800

however any list that puts charlie watts as #53 in the best rock drummer category is really missing it I agree - that's waaaay too high. I kid- kinda. The Stones were/are great, but Charlie doesn't have exactly have the biggest bag of chops ...

By: Navelgazer

Navelgazer — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:38:38 -0800

Lyricists like Dr. Dre, The Furious Five, and the Sugar Hill Gang are excluded from the list Can anyone give me an explanation as to why this would be?

By: bjork24

bjork24 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:51:14 -0800

Bjork #57 for 100 Greatest Female Pop Vocalists? Uh. These lists can tongue donkey balls.

By: meech

meech — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:51:49 -0800

Greatest Britpop Artists: Bush, Mercury Rev, Texas, Jamiroquai. Can someone give the list a whack, it seems to be broken.

By: rocket88

rocket88 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:54:08 -0800

1st link Ctrl + F "zander" not even in the top 100. bah! See, trip and a half...that's how you do sarcasm.

By: (bb|[^b]{2})

(bb|[^b]{2}) — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:56:54 -0800

[MY FAVORITE | LEAST FAVORITE ARTIST] ranked #[1-100] on the [LIST NAME]?! That's way too [HIGH | LOW]! These lists are retarded!!!!!1

By: baphomet

baphomet — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:08:51 -0800

I know that the mother of all music list posts is going to cause the mother of all music list backlash, but honestly if your 100 greatest rock frontmen list doesn't include John Bell of Widespread Panic, the list is completely worthless.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:18:02 -0800

Charlie doesn't have exactly have the biggest bag of chops with a beat like his, he doesn't need a big bag of chops and neither do the stones - he's way underappreciated as a drummer - his major talent is playing the right thing, not the fancy thing - and that's a lot harder than it sounds

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:26:36 -0800

if i could I'd favorite pyramid termite's comment a thousand times. I'll take charlie's rock solid backbeat over all the showoff pyrotechnics of some Buddy Rich wannabe anyday.

By: rfs

rfs — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:46:06 -0800

The punk rock list is no good without at least one Stranglers song - preferably Hanging Around or Life In The Sewer.

By: The Straightener

The Straightener — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:56:17 -0800

By the Blackout and Love at First Sting albums the Scorpions had obviously fallen from the grace of the In Trance/Virgin Killer/Taken by Force years but, come on, they weren't hair metal.

By: cashman

cashman — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:09:11 -0800

Lyricists like Dr. Dre, The Furious Five, and the Sugar Hill Gang are excluded from the list It's right before that part that you copied: Note: Emcees that didn't write their own lyrics are excluded from the list. If you're just now learning that those folks didn't write a lot of their own stuff, I know the feeling. Dre's stuff just seemed so uniquely him that when I found out earlier this year that he had ghostwriting, it was a big shock. Ra is #1 on that list, so I'm kind of happy about that. Tone Loc at #57 is suspect though.

By: Greg_Ace

Greg_Ace — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:14:41 -0800

"Top 10 Songs By The Greatest Jazz Artists" I don't get this list. I don't either. It appears horribly inconsistent to me, in many ways. As milnak pointed out, there are many well-known versions of the classic jazz repertoire, but to me the list compiler didn't appear to make much effort to link a particular tune with what is popularly considered the (or at least a) performer of a definitive version of it. Secondly: "Criteria: - Songs were chosen for their musical & lyrical quality and lasting popularity in jazz music." Really?? Some of the songs listed are pure list-filler chaff as far as I can tell. Finally, they tack on Gershwin (technically, not a "jazz artist" per se anyway if you ask me which nobody did)...but none of the other show-tune composers who made equally crucial contributions to the pool of Standards from which came so many truly classic jazz tunes? In short, this list is a mess.

By: Greg_Ace

Greg_Ace — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:16:14 -0800

By: Mael Oui

Mael Oui — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:19:16 -0800

The Lemonheads weren't British! Also, Oasis weren't the number one Britpop group (Blur were)!! Two mistakes in one list!!

By: Navelgazer

Navelgazer — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:20:24 -0800

Thanks Cashman. I read the two statements to mean that emcees, in the one corner, who didn't write their own material, would be excluded, which makes sense, and that lyricists (which generally refers to people who write lyrics) of some type I was unaware of which included Dre, the Furious Five, and the Sugar Hill Gang. In the Sugar Hill Gang's case particularly, I'd always been under the belief that those guys were brought into the studio together by Sylvia Robinson, who herself didn't know much about rap aside from the fact that there might be some money to be made in it, and just let the guys go wild with their own freestyle and/or previous material.

By: bukharin

bukharin — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:30:17 -0800

Where's Captain Beefheart? Damn.

By: Pope Guilty

Pope Guilty — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:09:26 -0800

The punk rock list does not include "We're Desperate" by X, which is objectively the best punk rock song ever. I have proof.

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:29:48 -0800

Who the hell are Emerson Lake & Powell? Maybe I don't want to know.

By: Tube

Tube — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:30:57 -0800

I thought the top songs of 1967 list was pretty good. As far as "greatest frontman" goes, I'm kind of shocked to see Scott Weiland ranked well above both Chris Cornell and Layne Staley. Back in the day my Seattle-ite buddies and I used to call the Stone Temple Pilots the Stone Gossard Pirates.

By: gompa

gompa — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:03:26 -0800

if i could I'd favorite pyramid termite's comment a thousand times. I'll take charlie's rock solid backbeat over all the showoff pyrotechnics of some Buddy Rich wannabe anyday. Seconded. "Rocks Off," coming out of that murky bridge section, the half-second fill that catapults the whole band back into the groove and sets up a line that sits very close to the top of the Greatest Single Lines in Rock list (the sunshine bores the daylights outta me). Subtle, almost understated, but effective as a blast from a tommy gun.

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:18:51 -0800

if i could I'd favorite pyramid termite's comment a thousand times. I'll take charlie's rock solid backbeat over all the showoff pyrotechnics of some Buddy Rich wannabe anyday. I'm all for solid and simple beats, that's what made Ringo the man but that doesn't mean someone's a "top" drummer. Shit, might as well give that chick from the White Stripes a top ten spot than. Charlie could hold a grove that's for sure but so can my sister.

By: jimmythefish

jimmythefish — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:54:42 -0800

Where's Captain Beefheart? Damn. #69 on the Greatest Underrated Rock Artists. Note that Glass Tiger is #66. By the by, I'm starting a class war in this corporation's parking lot at 9:00 next Tuesday morning. There will be no lists. There will be but the blood of the Useless flowing freely across hot tarmac. Coffee afterwards, maybe.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:56:35 -0800

I'm all for solid and simple beats ... but that doesn't mean someone's a "top" drummer. Well, I guess it all depends on exactly what you're looking for in a drummer. To my way of thinking, "solid" is pretty much the defining principle in determining "top". ... might as well give that chick from the White Stripes a top ten spot ... Now there's a drummer with a lot of spirit and energy, and she's probably perfect for the duo she plays in, but solid? You gotta be kidding! She can hardly play two bars in the same tempo! She's the original Russian Dragon*... *That's "rushing" and "dragging" for you uninitiated into the 36 Mystical Chambers of Rhythm.

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:17:24 -0800

Well now we're just talking symantics. When I think of a top drummer I'm thinking technical, guys like Terry Bosio, Thomas Pridgen, Carter Beauford, and the 100's of other guys I'm leaving out. But sometimes the best thing for a band or a song is just telling the drummer to shut the hell up and become a drum machine, yea than go grab that Charlie Watts guy for that. And I didn't mean that chick was "solid" but she's simple that's for sure, but that's not a bad thing. I guess I don't listen to enough White Stripes to metronome to see how her tempo is but it's never been anything I've really ever noticed. Talking about music sucks ass.

By: Student of Man

Student of Man — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:10:26 -0800

all in all, the site has a respectable section on the history of hip hop. Despite being underlined by the very juvenile "listing" theme, at least it got it's history facts straight.

By: minifigs

minifigs — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:55:49 -0800

so by "Britpop" they mean any British band since 1988, plus the Lemonheads for some reason? Here's my top five Bali Beat bands: 1. Radiohead 2. Rage Against the Machine 3. The Beatles 4. Beyonce 5. The Lemonheads

By: vac2003

vac2003 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:56:45 -0800

I was disappointed that Lieutenant Kije Suite - Serge Prokofiev only made to #39 on the '50 Greatest Tone Poems". I would have ranked in somewhere in the 20s, but no higher than #22.

By: salmacis

salmacis — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:54:54 -0800

While you can always argue about individual placements being too high/low, in general these are not bad lists at all.

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:28:13 -0800

While you can always argue about individual placements being too high/low, in general these are not bad lists at all By nature any "greatest" list is a bad list

By: grubi

grubi — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:39:07 -0800

Oh yeah? Well, I think you're wrong.

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:52:53 -0800

Yea well, you know, that's just like your opinion man

By: grubi

grubi — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:46:09 -0800

Oh, yeah?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:51:31 -0800

Talking about music sucks ass. why don't you try it sometime?

By: flashboy

flashboy — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:06:13 -0800

Oh dear lordy, that Britpop list is hysterically stupid. I mean, quite apart from the bit where they include a bunch of American bands, and the bit where they suggest that Britpop lasted from 1988 to the present day (spring 1992 to autumn 1997, you fools), and the bits where they include Babylon Zoo and Toploader and Jamfuckingirofuckingquai, and the fact that they put Kula Fucking Shaker at number 10... there's no Kenickie. Seriously. A best of Britpop list without Kenickie. Somebody needs to read Phonogram.

By: Kwine

Kwine — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:56:22 -0800

Kwine's List of Top TV Theme Songs, by Kwine 1. Airwolf 2. Charlie Watts 3. Masterpiece Theater 4. Return of the Jedi 5. Chapelle's show...dum da dem dum dum....Chapelle's show. 6. You Can't Do That On Television! 7. *removes sunglasses, YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH* 8. The Lemonheads

By: rocket88

rocket88 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:59:20 -0800

Anyone dissing Charlie Watts doesn't understand drumming...or music, for that matter. CW is anything but a "drum machine". We say a song has "groove" when the beat is just a hair ahead, or a hair behind where we expect it to be. It's what drives a song forward like a freight train or makes it mellow and laid back like a summer's breeze. And it's an exceedingly subtle quality...too much and you're just off-beat and erratic. Charlie is a master at it.

By: Benny Andajetz

Benny Andajetz — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:15:33 -0800

Anyone dissing Charlie Watts doesn't understand drumming...or music, for that matter. Since I made the original comment, I hafta respond. I played the drums for thirty years. I took formal lessons for more than ten years; I know flams and paradiddles and rolls, etc. I know about playing with the music and against it. Charlie Watts is a good and accomplished drummer - certainly better than most out there. But I don't think he'd make my top 100. Of course, that's just personal opinion.

By: Guy_Inamonkeysuit

Guy_Inamonkeysuit — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:39:59 -0800

Hey, hi! I'm looking for the Charlie Watts thread? And someone said it was here? Watts plays the right thing at the right time. He's a hell of a jazz drummer, and if you don't know this, you don't know his work. When I was learning to play drums, I would put on Stones and Beatles and Who albums and play along until I was hitting stuff the same way as those guys. (In Moon's case that was no easy task most of the time.) I am still playing the drums after more than 40 years, and I still think Watts is one of the ones to listen to. That said, no, he is no Papa Joe, but y'know what? He is Charlie Watts. Yes, he would most certainly be in my Top 100 drummers. "I don't love rock and roll, but I love playing with the Stones." -- Charlie Watts

By: Guy_Inamonkeysuit

Guy_Inamonkeysuit — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:42:03 -0800

(Snark not directed at you, Benny.)

By: yoink

yoink — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:43:50 -0800

Your favorite list sucks.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:22:43 -0800

How could Uriah Heep possibly be considered underrated ? That boggles the mind.

By: quin

quin — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:23:10 -0800

and the hair metal list dosen't include 'Bathroom Wall" It also doesn't have "Freight Train" by Nitro which is clearly the pinnacle of hair-metal as an art form. That said, and unlike so many of these lists, I actually found myself agreeing with a lot of their choices.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:28:38 -0800

How could Uriah Heep possibly be considered underrated ? That boggles the mind. 'Easy Livin'' is a fine bar song.

By: telstar

telstar — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:10:28 -0800

Punk, back in the fuckin' day, was all about wrecking things like "top 100 lists". *starts riot*

By: telstar

telstar — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:29:09 -0800

Ok, the girl groups list makes up for the "top 100 punk" list. *attempts to stop riot, fails, joins riot in progress*

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:31:44 -0800

*ignores riot, goes back to listening to Inuit throat singers*