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W.
posted by phaedon (95 comments total)

 
It seems like there should be software out by now that can generate Oliver Stone movies.

Also, huh?
posted by Burhanistan at 6:04 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


So, okay; they started filming in May, and the completed movie will be released in October.

About the same time that MONKEYS START FLYING OUT OF MY BUTT.
posted by yhbc at 6:05 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


No thanks.
posted by Flunkie at 6:08 PM on July 27, 2008


-hut?
posted by turgid dahlia at 6:13 PM on July 27, 2008


TF?
posted by Ron Thanagar at 6:14 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


At 1:15 they show Dick Cheney smiling. They clearly do not get Dick Cheney.

Also, George H.W. Bush never said, "You want an ass whipping?" He just didn't. Maybe Barbara Bush, but not H.W.
posted by The Loch Ness Monster at 6:15 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


y?
posted by deadmessenger at 6:16 PM on July 27, 2008


.

(In memoriam, Josh Brolin's moustache)
posted by carsonb at 6:18 PM on July 27, 2008 [3 favorites]


-hicky wham-wham whuzzle?
posted by turgid dahlia at 6:19 PM on July 27, 2008


Too soon.
posted by ColdChef at 6:20 PM on July 27, 2008 [14 favorites]


You know what this picture needs? Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings, looped over and over and over.
posted by nola at 6:21 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


I dancing with anticipation thinking about the next FPP for the next trailer!
posted by aburd at 6:21 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


Wow, I can't wait to relive the last 8 years.
posted by nanojath at 6:25 PM on July 27, 2008 [19 favorites]


No.
posted by facetious at 6:27 PM on July 27, 2008


I LIVED THROUGH 8 YEARS OF W'S BUMBLING AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY MOVIE
posted by Dr-Baa at 6:27 PM on July 27, 2008 [7 favorites]


Pulled
posted by bjork24 at 6:31 PM on July 27, 2008


I was expecting a remake of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World."
posted by not_on_display at 6:36 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


This post is almost as meh as Stone making this movie with less than half a year left in W.'s term.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:37 PM on July 27, 2008


I don't need to see this movie to judge it. That's how awesome I am.
posted by smackfu at 6:39 PM on July 27, 2008 [4 favorites]


Huh. I'm always confused when I see things like this that are based on current events that haven't yet fully run their course. Like the books about the OJ trial published before the final verdict. Wouldn't you want to wait at least until his presidency is over? For example, doesn't a McCain win or Obama win put a significantly different spin on Bush's story? I can't imagine this movie not seeming horribly outdated a year from now.

In sum, what ColdChef said.
posted by jpdoane at 6:43 PM on July 27, 2008


Let's all pray that it has a happy ending.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:44 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


I already know this movie is going to suck because there won't be a part in it where Kevin Costner says "Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left."
posted by turgid dahlia at 6:45 PM on July 27, 2008 [5 favorites]


Single-link broken youtube post. Surely a new high.
posted by bicyclefish at 6:46 PM on July 27, 2008


Huh. I'm always confused when I see things like this that are based on current events that haven't yet fully run their course. Like the books about the OJ trial published before the final verdict.

The most confusing one to me was that made-for-TV movie about Scott Peterson starring Dean Cain.

But hey, I'm a sucker for biopics. I'll be seeing "W." when it opens.
posted by Donnie VandenBos at 6:50 PM on July 27, 2008


This will bomb.
posted by kid ichorous at 6:52 PM on July 27, 2008


The makeup jobs are terrible. SNL would be ashamed.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 6:52 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


Let's all pray that it has a happy ending.

I admit that I've never been more spiritual in my life. There's a lot worse that could be made to happen in the next six months at the hands of George W. Bush than an Oliver Stone film.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 6:54 PM on July 27, 2008


George H.W. Bush never said, "You want an ass whipping?"

"Young man, don't think I won't take this belt off, because I. Will. Do it. Hear that? That was the little belt pin popping out of the little belt hole. Yep. Don't bother running son, it's too late for a strategic withdrawal to Mother's arms. Uh-oh, that's one belt loop down... and there's number two. Too late for the tears too, that'll just make my belting arm angrier..." didn't test well with the audiences.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:58 PM on July 27, 2008


Wait a minute: from the Wikipedia link.

The director has described the tone of the film to be in the vein of Network or Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb,

I know how the movie get around the last 6 months. It'll just recreate the ending of Dr. Strangelove - and probably end up all the more accurate for it, too.

Ha. Ha. oh god.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 6:58 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


jpdoane: It's even better when the creators of the work get the outcome wrong. Right now, there is a huge pile of these books on our bargain table, marked all the way down to 99 cents - it's a pro-Rudy, anti-Hillary book about the presidential election written before the primaries even started.
posted by heeeraldo at 6:59 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


I think Ive seen this one before.
posted by T.D. Strange at 6:59 PM on July 27, 2008


I was expecting a remake of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World."

Believe it or not, there's apparently one in production. If they screw it up, I will be very unhappy. They will probably screw it up.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:02 PM on July 27, 2008


It's got a hell of a cast and I may have to go just to see Rob Corddrey as Ari Fleischer.
posted by octothorpe at 7:04 PM on July 27, 2008


There should be a new word, a malleable nomenclature conceived in sadness that goes far beyond hate and loathing, so that it is capable of extending to George W. Bush. Forever.
posted by plexi at 7:06 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


Oliver Stone was pretty good once, but he's been tone-deaf for at least a decade. Who is actually going to see this film? Those who like Bush won't, because they'll be certain in advance that it's obviously a hatchet job and a slanderous pack of lies. Those who don't like Bush won't because none of it is news to them, they get can't stand the sight of him in real life and even turn off NPR when a soundbite from him comes on. Who does that leave, exactly?
posted by George_Spiggott at 7:06 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


too late.
posted by Jikido at 7:07 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


I was expecting a remake of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World."

Believe it or not, there's apparently one in production.


(They already made one.)
posted by Solon and Thanks at 7:09 PM on July 27, 2008


Awesome.

Sure it doesn't make sense, but like many artists I admire, Stone doesn't give a fuck what you or I think. That's gotta count for something.
posted by fungible at 7:10 PM on July 27, 2008


It counts when we're talking about a film making genius like Kubrick, but Stone is no Kubrick.
posted by nola at 7:14 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


Hell for that matter the guy in the park that talks to himself doesn't care what you or I think.
posted by nola at 7:16 PM on July 27, 2008 [2 favorites]


It looks funny in a way that makes me think it's supposed to be "comedic" more than controversial or thought-provoking, which is different for Stone (relative the movies of his I've seen) and seems like an interesting approach.

I like the line which went something like, "You're a Bush so start acting like a Bush!" and the funny way that in real life, George W. Bush took his advice, but got it just a little bit wrong and actually did start acting like a bush.
posted by Dee Xtrovert at 7:16 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


I liked the fake teaser, in which the background music was clearly "Ten Years Gone". That sums it all up a bit better.
posted by supercres at 7:19 PM on July 27, 2008


Dee Xtrovert: I see what you did there.
posted by turgid dahlia at 7:35 PM on July 27, 2008


Very strange. These people are so familiar and so current that seeing actors portraying them makes the fakery of the movie plainly obvious, so it feels about as realistic as a high school play. It looks like an interesting movie, but it will be hard to suspend my disbelief when watching it.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 7:39 PM on July 27, 2008


Do we really have to see this movie? We're living in it.
posted by jonmc at 7:42 PM on July 27, 2008


hey, i've found the ending! SPOILER ALERT!!
posted by pyramid termite at 7:47 PM on July 27, 2008


Wonder if Stone will have Bush pardon Rove at term-end in the movie.
posted by netbros at 7:49 PM on July 27, 2008


The director has described the tone of the film to be in the vein of Network or Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb,

That reminds me of film school, when somebody mentioned "U-Turn," to which the professor responded, "U-Turn is what happened when Oliver Stone forgot he doesn't possess a sense of humor."
posted by Navelgazer at 7:56 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


(They already made one.)

Nah, that piece of garbage was more 'in the spirit of' (while almost completely missing the spirit of), and best forgotten.

I am a bit of a Mad Mad Mad Mad World cultist. It is one of my quirks.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:58 PM on July 27, 2008


"U-Turn is what happened when Oliver Stone forgot he doesn't possess a sense of humor."

Like Wall Street isn't one of the greatest comedies of all time?
posted by grounded at 8:01 PM on July 27, 2008


Is this supposed to be a comedy, or is it just so horrible the humor is unintentional? It certainly plays like an SCTV parody. Everything about it seems over-the-top, soap-opera silly.
posted by ornate insect at 8:05 PM on July 27, 2008


I'm actually with you there, stavrosthewonderchicken. I should have written "they tried to make one."
posted by Solon and Thanks at 8:07 PM on July 27, 2008


You guys have clearly failed to think through the possibilities.

James Cromwell, reprising the grinning psychotic affect he brought to LA Confidential, as George Sr. The stunning Thandi Newton, trapped under that terrible Condi hair helmet. Living goddess Ellen Burstyn as Pazuzu. All as directed by Oliver Stone, the man who approved the Tribbles used as wigs used in The Doors and more to the point made JFK, the most batshit mainstream movie I've ever seen about anything, much less American politics.

I seriously haven't been this excited about anything in ages. I'd crawl over glass to see it. In fact, when it comes out I might just do that, in order to get into the proper mood.
posted by melissa may at 8:09 PM on July 27, 2008 [9 favorites]


This would be interesting if we hadn't been living the director's cut for the past EIGHT YEARS.
posted by katillathehun at 8:28 PM on July 27, 2008



Yeah.. well, I'll Netflix it. Why not.
posted by bukharin at 8:29 PM on July 27, 2008


I would just like to un-see the Youtube comments I accidentally read.
posted by Devils Rancher at 8:44 PM on July 27, 2008


You all just can't appreciate the genius of the movie or its subject (and I can say that, my father has been to Iraq twice now).
posted by Saxon Kane at 8:46 PM on July 27, 2008


I can't wait to find out how this movie is also all about Vietnam.
posted by shakespeherian at 8:48 PM on July 27, 2008


Single-link broken youtube post. Surely a new high.

It's not broken. They just have embedding turned off, and MeFi isn't smart enough to notice that.
posted by smackfu at 8:50 PM on July 27, 2008


And America went back and to the left, back and to the left, back and to the left...
posted by Pastabagel at 8:58 PM on July 27, 2008 [6 favorites]


Stone is no Kubrick.
The mind boggles in thinking what Kubrick could have done if only he got to live long enough and decided to put on film a satire of the last 8 years.

I'm off to see Dr. Strangelove again.
by the way, he would have turned 80 last saturday
posted by _dario at 9:06 PM on July 27, 2008


This may be heretical, but Wargames spoke to me as a better critique of MAD game theory than Strangelove, featured a better AI than AI (but not HAL), and depicted phone phreaking which is about as economical as shining, and without all the redrum nonsense.
posted by kid ichorous at 9:23 PM on July 27, 2008


Stone is a hit-or-miss director, but has turned out enough good films to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm looking forward to this one.
posted by rottytooth at 9:24 PM on July 27, 2008


How did they come out with a sequel to Batman so quickly!?
posted by spiderwire at 9:32 PM on July 27, 2008


Nothing to see here. Move along. (Lionsgate had it yanked)
posted by longsleeves at 9:47 PM on July 27, 2008


DEEE-LEEET
posted by mattoxic at 9:54 PM on July 27, 2008


Why in the world would they yank their own trailer?? Here is an alternate link.
posted by dgaicun at 10:04 PM on July 27, 2008


Oliver's got some kind of stones making a movie about Mr. 28% Approval Rating. Unsurprisingly, the actors are all better-looking than the politicians. DC is Hollywood for ugly people.

Mr. Brolin's dad already played W.

I know how the movie get around the last 6 months. It'll just recreate the ending of Dr. Strangelove - and probably end up all the more accurate for it, too.

Nah, this is how the last six months will go. "The missiles are flying...hallelujah...hallelujah!"
posted by kirkaracha at 10:17 PM on July 27, 2008


Is this how we reward men of his caliber, with more attention?
posted by Upal at 10:20 PM on July 27, 2008


At 1:15 they show Dick Cheney smiling. They clearly do not get Dick Cheney.

Did you not see the huge back-lit map of the world behind him? I submit that they do get Dick Cheney.
posted by WolfDaddy at 10:23 PM on July 27, 2008 [1 favorite]


Living goddess Ellen Burstyn as Pazuzu.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I just snorted my brain out of my nose...
posted by crossoverman at 10:26 PM on July 27, 2008


Barbara Bush and Carl Rove never looked that good.
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posted by knave at 11:09 PM on July 27, 2008 [10 favorites]


They should have gotten Rainn Wilson to play Rove. But do we really need a FPP with one letter that doesn't even link properly anymore?
posted by Snyder at 11:20 PM on July 27, 2008


Perhaps a moderator could post an updated link.
posted by delmoi at 11:23 PM on July 27, 2008


SL(etter)YTP
posted by benzo8 at 12:08 AM on July 28, 2008


Yeah, too late for sure. but it seems oddly appropriate to see all these people in a movie, considering they seem like the 'main characters' when you turn on the news.
posted by malapropist at 12:18 AM on July 28, 2008


This trailer is worth it if only for the Kennedy line. I expected the overly serious Stone here. If it's funny, it might actually be good.
posted by rokusan at 3:10 AM on July 28, 2008


It looks like an interesting movie, but it will be hard to suspend my disbelief when watching it.

now that's authenticity!
posted by quonsar at 5:40 AM on July 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


Updated the link up top.
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posted by Burhanistan at 6:53 AM on July 28, 2008


I wish that guy in the first half of the trailer was president.
posted by spilon at 7:15 AM on July 28, 2008


I think it looks interesting. And it's a hell of a cast. I'd see it, but expectations will be low.
posted by Kwine at 7:35 AM on July 28, 2008


When I first heard about this movie I thought it was going to be a goofy satire. I think that would have been much more entertaining (and biting, if that's what Stone is going for. No one will take it seriously if it's as serious as it looks).

But of course Trey Parker and Matt Stone the goofy satire first...
posted by starman at 8:25 AM on July 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Mr. Brolin's dad already played W.

And W.'s hero too.
posted by Clay201 at 8:50 AM on July 28, 2008


I am going to spend $10 to watch a movie about this guy?

I don't think so.

posted by Guy_Inamonkeysuit at 9:18 AM on July 28, 2008


Solon and Thanks: I was expecting a remake of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World."
Believe it or not, there's apparently one in production.
(They already made one.)

You're thinking of Cannonball Run. (/end derail)

I see they have James Cromwell playing George H.W. Bush; I promise I will go see this IF and ONLY IF he utters the line, "That'll do, pig."
posted by not_on_display at 11:28 AM on July 28, 2008


I want to see this for the sheer ballsy shadenfreude of watching Oliver Stone butcher history while it's happening.

Much as I hate GWB, Ollie Stone is the man who had to apologize to the entire nation of Turkey for having made Midnight Express.
posted by shmegegge at 12:48 PM on July 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


There is something brilliant that they could do here. They could completely rewrite history and show a man at the helm of a genius presidency:

[In the wake of 9/11/01] This event demands an even and carefully measured response. We will go after those responsible, but unlike those who have attacked us, we will act with great caution to ensure that not a single innocent person is harmed by our swift and accurate retaliation.

[Prior to Katrina] There is a chance that this storm could aversely affect the region, let's get FEMA down there to make sure we have an immediate response in place.

[Post Katrina] An American city has been damaged, but we, as a nation, are going to not rest until it is completely rebuilt and all her people are safely back in their homes.

[On torture] It has come to my attention that some people in the military have acted in a wholly deplorable manner and tortured prisoners that were in their care. This is completely unacceptable and these soldiers have been disciplined. Let me be abundantly clear we, as a nation, will not now, nor will we ever condone any form of torture.

Basically, by the end of the movie, American citizens are living the dream; the economy is at an all time high, Afghanistan is a paradise, and it's citizens love us for rebuilding their country, the rest of the world sees us as saint-like restorers, and Bush himself is loved by all.

Then when people leave the theater, they look around them at the actual world and go, "Oh right... it was a fictional account. Fuck."
posted by quin at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


A link to the trailer that works (at the moment).
posted by beagle at 3:02 PM on July 28, 2008


Phillip Seymour Hoffman should have been Karl Rove.
posted by synaesthetichaze at 3:39 PM on July 28, 2008


"Content rejected."

and how.
posted by Saucy Intruder at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2008


Is it too soon to ask for an Oliver Stone directed biopic about the life and times of Carrot Top?

How about Celine Dion?

Ashlee Simspon?

Maybe Arsenio Hall?

Tom Arnold?

Rosie O'Donnell?

That kid from Saved By The Bell who became a porn star? I forget his name...

How about Billy Carter?
posted by ZachsMind at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2008


Stone will be donating the proceeds from this film to the families of Iraqi civilians and American soldiers maimed and killed from W.'s illegal war, right? Right?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:55 PM on July 28, 2008


Ha. That's about as likely as someone giving their money to that rather than to Obama.
posted by smackfu at 5:22 AM on July 29, 2008


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