Comments on: 12 Glowing Men

12 Glowing Men

hubs — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:30:08 -0800

12 Angry Men + Glowing = 12 Glowing Men. An absolutely beautiful film by Martijn Hendriks.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:35:41 -0800

Well, it's a beautiful film by Sidney Lumet, made sparkly by someone else.

By: echo target

echo target — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:36:38 -0800

What a great movie. Shame about the rainbow crap. Maybe someone could fix it with the wonders of modern technology.

By: Foci for Analysis

Foci for Analysis — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:39:17 -0800

Looks like somone has discovered After Effects.

By: cavalier

cavalier — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:41:40 -0800

Now I've got to go back and watch that, what a great flick. Yeah, I'd appreciate Sidney Lumet being credited in the title, since, while this is pretty, it's not really his film, but hey, enough with the hate -- that was a cute effect.

By: XMLicious

XMLicious — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:48:04 -0800

If I run that through a filter that adds a halo effect to the sparkles, can I claim I made a movie too?

By: wemayfreeze

wemayfreeze — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:48:56 -0800

It is beautiful, I just wish it were also interesting. Queuing up the original for watching now. Thanks!

By: DU

DU — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:50:16 -0800

12 Covered-in-Rainbow-Stickers Men

By: echo target

echo target — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:58:18 -0800

Looking through his site, I see this is the same guy who removed all the birds from The Birds. That one showed a bit more effort, I thought.

By: davemee

davemee — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:00:21 -0800

I just registered 12basreliefmen.com and 12inversevideomen.com .

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:09:51 -0800

Last night I saw film critic commenting on a play that used film footage and how difficult it is to successfully use film in art. I think this (failed) example proves it.

By: AmberV

AmberV — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:11:56 -0800

Usually I can walk away from something and feel something; while I may not have received the creator's originally intended message, at least I got *something* out of it, personal to me. This is one of those unusual works that is quite simply empty. So empty in fact that I, after one or two minutes, was so caught up in the original (powerful) work, that the visual effect had been completely flattened out by my brain in a way no different than bad television reception gets eventually ignored. Perhaps it is because this is one of my favourite films, and while I can recite that scene by heart, it never fails to move me. Maybe if another film, less potent to me, had been selected something would have happened in addition to the original scene? I agree with the notion that fearfulsymmetry relays. Film is difficult to use in art for the same reason that film so completely transports us. It dominates the scene. It is like a television in the corner of a bar. No matter how interesting the conversation, you always see people habitually turning their heads back toward it.

By: dgaicun

dgaicun — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:13:41 -0800

12 Angry Men + Glowing = 12 Glowing Men. Your math here is a little flawed. It's: 12 Angry Men + Glowing = 12 Angry, Glowing Men.

By: jettloe

jettloe — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:27:58 -0800

Can't beat 24 Hour Psycho.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:43:41 -0800

12 [glowing] Monkeys. Now that's a film I'd watch!

By: imperium

imperium — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:44:34 -0800

If the glowing was in proportion to Mr Hendriks' understanding of a particular person's level of anger at any one time, it would be better. Or at least something. As it is, it makes me want to link to a picture of the Mona Lisa that's had a Bevel and Emboss done to it.

By: Shepherd

Shepherd — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:53:41 -0800

If the glowing was in proportion to Mr Hendriks' understanding of a particular person's level of anger at any one time, it would be better. Or at least something. That's what I was thinking. I was desperately trying to make sense of the glowing before I realized that it was just somebody dicking around with a computer or a profound attempt to make us confront the utter irrationality of human emotion by forcing the viewer to attempt to correlate a substantiative phenomenon with the human experience and fail, creating a dichotomy wherein the viewer must confront their own lack of reliable indicators for the internal mindscape of others. On balance I think it's somebody dicking around with a computer.

By: dbiedny

dbiedny — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:02:30 -0800

Original B&W film = masterpiece. This filtered atrocity (I'm guessing one of the Sapphire FX plugs) = Shit Sandwich.

By: starman

starman — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:17:58 -0800

It could be an interesting exercise if it had more thought put into it. I thought maybe the glowing would start with Fonda and then gradually appear in others as people turned away from the ranting character. As it is, it's about as artistic as colorization.

By: ssg

ssg — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:35:04 -0800

The glowing effect makes me angry.

By: decoherence

decoherence — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:49:03 -0800

This is neither beautiful nor interesting. It's retarded.

By: tadellin

tadellin — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:24:10 -0800

I second decoherence. It's retarded.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:27:49 -0800

Hmm. The choice of scene was interesting. It's where the tide turns and the racist guy is exposed. I thought there was something possibly interesting going on when he speaks and everyone gets up from the table and/or turns away. But yeah, it's sorta random. I have absolutely no idea why it would make anyone angry, though.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:40:02 -0800

I take it he's commenting on the aura of reverence we feel for this film's concise, human, dramatic poignancy, and piggybacking on the great theatrical lighting to draw attention to that.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:40:15 -0800

Also ... Martin Balsam as foreman ... "Fred, baby!"

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:47:23 -0800

Making glittering rainbows emanate from the single set, flesh and blood, black and white screen contents, by basically cranking up the gain, does sort of create an interesting statement of what we really are dazzled by. In which case, distate is an appropriate response.

By: Greg_Ace

Greg_Ace — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:54:18 -0800

Dibs on 12AngryDramaticHamsters.com!

By: katillathehun

katillathehun — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:26:50 -0800

Call me when The Glowing Birdcage is available.

By: hellphish

hellphish — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:41:25 -0800

Well it certainly got a reaction out of you fellas. Isn't that the point of art?

By: stenseng

stenseng — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:50:34 -0800

Would randomly kicking you in the nuts count as art, then? It'd certainly get a reaction...

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:57:55 -0800

Hmm. The choice of scene was interesting. It's where the tide turns and the racist guy is exposed. I thought there was something possibly interesting going on when he speaks and everyone gets up from the table and/or turns away.

There was something interesting going on then. Something very interesting. Ignore all the sparkle crap and you'll see it.

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:15:09 -0800

So the consensus seems to be that "absolutely beautiful" and "by Martijn Hendriks" are iffy, but the central point of the post ("film") is well on the mark.

By: device55

device55 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:52:44 -0800

This crap is why I had dreams of tunneling out of art school to escape. Perxactly.

By: ssg

ssg — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:17:04 -0800

So the consensus seems to be that "absolutely beautiful" and "by Martijn Hendriks" are iffy, but the central point of the post ("film") is well on the mark. Well now, a traditionalist might argue that this is a video that uses a film for source material.

By: Pronoiac

Pronoiac — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:12:40 -0800

imperium: If the glowing was in proportion to Mr Hendriks' understanding of a particular person's level of anger at any one time, it would be better. Yes! Add color! Make them turn bright green as they get angry. Also, bigger. More gravelly voices. Furthermore: purple pants.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:00:31 -0800

This crap is why I had dreams of tunneling out of art school to escape. Why on earth would anyway pay to go to school to become an artist?

By: king walnut

king walnut — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:50:44 -0800

This is a solid piece of artistic work. We've all watched that scene a million times, and the artist has added a little something, just the right amount to make it interesting again. Thanks for posting.