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goodnewsfortheinsane — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:40:26 -0800

Humorist and candidate for the US Senate for Minnesota Al Franken draws a map of the United States from memory.

By: knowles

knowles — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:42:19 -0800

While cool, this suffers from a distinct lack of video.

By: pmdboi

pmdboi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:46:58 -0800

Video.

By: ElvisJesus

ElvisJesus — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:46:58 -0800

So, how'd he do .... besides "Better than I would"?

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:47:24 -0800

He did this on Saturday night live once or twice. Pretty impressive, actually.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:49:32 -0800

Yay, geography! If he knows all the capitals, I'll be doubly impressed.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:50:19 -0800

OK, the video is titled "Al Franken draws the United State of America." FAIL.

By: starman

starman — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:50:25 -0800

I hear Jesse Ventura can draw an almost perfect smiley face from memory.

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:51:08 -0800

He did this on Saturday night live once or twice. Yeah, and apparently the event in the flickr set and the one in the video were different days, so I guess the post could read: Al Franken can't stop drawing the map of the US from memory.

By: Daddy-O

Daddy-O — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:53:58 -0800

I can do that, as long as you don't expect me to go on past Wyoming and Colorado. I wish there were more candidates like Al Franken who care more about the average guy and realize that the rich and powerful are way over represented in the US today. We are moving more and more towards the third world model where a few own everything and the rest are veritable serfs. Before long there will be no incentive to sneak across the southern border because things will have reached a state of equilibrium in the Americas. I am becoming a fan of wealth redistribution through progressive taxation. If you're getting the majority of benefits, why shouldn't you contribute more?

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:56:54 -0800

Politicians with a knowledge of geography must be stopped before they repatriate their homelands.

By: quin

quin — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:57:20 -0800

*Pfft* He totally fucked up the scale though. Pretty impressive, actually. Totally. If I was capable of this, I would do it every chance I got too.

By: Forktine

Forktine — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:00:06 -0800

I think if I tried this it would be the reverse of that famous New Yorker cover. I could get the eight or so western states, but east of the rockies my map would taper off into an uncharted area labeled "flat" and then a foreshortened bit labeled "small states of the east," with Florida stapled on below. It's a pretty good trick he has there, and keeping with the jokes while drawing.

By: grubi

grubi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:04:25 -0800

Another amazing thing he can do. Besides writing his books, I mean. I applaud this.

By: dances_with_sneetches

dances_with_sneetches — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:04:59 -0800

Counterminous is SO 1957.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:06:10 -0800

Very impressive. I don't want to brag, but my illustrations of Saskatchewan and Kansas have drawn* more than their share of praise. *Ha!

By: roystgnr

roystgnr — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:07:21 -0800

He's smart enough, so the map is good enough, and doggone it, I like it.

By: mcstayinskool

mcstayinskool — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:10:52 -0800

Oh Al, pleeeeease win this November. I'm in a prolonged state of denial, and in my mind this is still Paul Wellstone's senate seat...help me get over that.

By: never used baby shoes

never used baby shoes — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:10:52 -0800

Watching this reminded me of something I used to do, when I did public education work. The team I worked with developed a presentation/act that required me to quickly paint some birds on a mural. Now, I have very little artistic talent, but to get around that we very, very faintly drew the outline of the birds in pencil ahead of the presentation. When it came time to paint, I could fill those outlines in three strokes - it looked fantastic and made me look like some kind of talented artist. I'm not saying that Al Franken is doing something like that here, but it was the first thing to come to mind.

By: saulgoodman

saulgoodman — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:11:39 -0800

reeks of effort. fail. /irony (actually i loves me some franken)

By: Daddy-O

Daddy-O — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:15:29 -0800

By contrast, GWB can't find his ass with both hands and a flashlight.

By: ubiquity

ubiquity — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:15:40 -0800

Apparently FDR had a map of the US in his office showing all the counties in all the states (and yes, parishes for you Louisianans). FDR would invite visitors to draw a line on the map and he would name all the counties the line went through. Of course, Franken is no FDR, despite the similarities of their first names, but still, it's nice to see someone running for office who got further in school than My Pet Goat.

By: craven_morhead

craven_morhead — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:17:01 -0800

I grew up in MN, Franken spoke at my university once. The place was packed, and he was fantastic. He was funny, but he seemed to really care about the issues, and wasn't afraid to show emotion over the things he cared about. :: hopes for win ::

By: burnmp3s

burnmp3s — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:17:01 -0800

I remember there was an episode of the Australian game show Who Dares Wins where people on the street were challenged to draw a map of Australia from memory. One guy drew a really great one but the weird thing was half of them didn't remember Tasmania (one of 6 states) and almost all of them forgot the Australian Capital Territory.

By: sleevener

sleevener — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:18:18 -0800

I wish there were more candidates like Al Franken who care more about the average guy That elitist knob? Check the youtube video, he's using a human easel.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:19:11 -0800

"By contrast, GWB can't find his ass with both hands and a flashlight." ... and an GPS-ready Ass-O-Meter®.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:23:09 -0800

Last I heard he was moving up in the polls. He'd started out behind thanks to the fact that he hadn't paid state taxes in like 10 states or something, and had made a bunch of 'naughty' jokes in the past.

By: Rarebit Fiend

Rarebit Fiend — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:23:55 -0800

I'm very good at drawing Colorado and Wyoming. When I'm feeling adventurous I'll draw Utah.

By: Daddy-O

Daddy-O — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:25:19 -0800

That elitist knob? Check the youtube video, he's using a human easel. Searched, could not find. Please link to it sleevener.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:26:48 -0800

RCP polling data

By: sleevener

sleevener — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:32:13 -0800

Please link to it sleevener. Here you go. (via pmdboi up above)

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:32:27 -0800

I knew a guy (now a woman) who could not only draw a map of the US with all the states, but she was obsessed with area codes and could draw in all the area code boundaries.

By: Afroblanco

Afroblanco — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:32:44 -0800

I think I could actually do a pretty good job with this, as far as remembering all the states and their locations relative to each other. But there's no way that I'd get the shapes right. The end result would be technically correct but laughable.

By: marxchivist

marxchivist — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:33:44 -0800

I can do that, as long as you don't expect me to go on past Wyoming and Colorado. I don't trust those square states in middle anyhow. :P

By: notsnot

notsnot — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:34:49 -0800

It's cool and all, I guess, while he's talking policy, but that was one of my standard parlor tricks - on a bar etch-a-sketch - about five years ago. Drunk.

By: jsavimbi

jsavimbi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:42:55 -0800

It's cool and all, I guess, while he's talking policy, but that was one of my standard parlor tricks - on a bar etch-a-sketch - about five years ago. Drunk. Cocktail napkins. All continents, all countries, all capitals, with elitist labeling ensuing. My father would bemoan that I couldn't open up a geography store, and I'd respond that at least it got me laid. Sometimes.

By: Daddy-O

Daddy-O — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:49:09 -0800

Previously, Supply Side Jesus from Al Franken and Don Simpson. Now animated.

By: sfts2

sfts2 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:50:13 -0800

Where's Alaska? And Hawaii? EPIC FAIL!

By: BitterOldPunk

BitterOldPunk — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:52:03 -0800

That's nothing. I can belch the alphabet.

By: briank

briank — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:52:36 -0800

despite the similarities of their first names Wait...what? AL Franken and FRANLKIN Roosevelt?

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:53:14 -0800

For one of my political science classes in college, part of the final exam was: * Draw a map of the world. It doesn't have to be perfect or to scale, but it has to contain all the major recognizable features. * Label the map with 50 countries and 50 major geographical features (mountains, lakes, oceans, etc), which will be selected at random at the time of the exam. * List the population of these 50 countries, within a +/- 1 million margin of error. A lot of rote memorization, sure, but very, very interesting ("Holy shit, Bangladesh! 150 million? Are you fucking kidding me?")

By: notsnot

notsnot — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:54:33 -0800

jsacvimbi: "All continents, all countries, all capitals..." I drew a quick Mercator-style map of the world, with the Prime Meridian and Equator, in class one day to teach the students about the Cartesian Coordinate System. Unfortuately, most of the students couldn't even pick out the continents.

By: jeffburdges

jeffburdges — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:06:58 -0800

Minnesota, You will get some hilarious press conferences if you elect this guy, although you'd enjoy him more as say governor where he speaks more to the press.

By: jsavimbi

jsavimbi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:07:45 -0800

A lot of rote memorization, sure Yes, a lot of what I know about history/geography was learned by rote, but every once in awhile someone would come up with an interesting tie-in with the modern era that made things fall into place. Aside from that, I'm a popular teammate on trivia nights.

By: Avenger50

Avenger50 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:13:21 -0800

Whoop dee doo. What's his face is as dangerously annoying as his female Bizarro Ann Coulter. Despite the fact that he can trace a map with the best of us. And then auction it off? What the what? "Oh I'm sorry, do you want to pay for this map I just drew?" No. No, we don't.

By: Herodios

Herodios — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:17:06 -0800

He did this on Saturday night live once or twice. . . . and it was brilliant. Also easier to see than this one. It was 05 November 1988 (I have learned). He was on Weekend Update blandly discussing the electoral prospects of GHW Bush and Dukakis state by state, and the humour in the piece was how it slowly dawned on you what he was doing and that he could do it. It's a great parlour trick and I really really hope it's for real and doesn't involve tracing faint outlines invisible to the viewer. The resulting map in the SNL performance was 'off' enough that you could believe he'd done it freehand, after much practice. I would dearly love to see video of that performance again.

By: grubi

grubi — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:20:53 -0800

Thank you, Avenger50, for your deep, insightful remark, which tells us so much about your political stance.

By: annaramma

annaramma — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:21:26 -0800

I'm with you briank, wha?!

By: Avenger50

Avenger50 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:23:09 -0800

Thank you, Avenger50, for your deep, insightful remark, which tells us so much about your political stance. Really, grubi? Do you know what Bizarro means? Or do you think my political stance means I'm voting for Superman? Because you'd be more right. More deep, insightful remarks to follow.

By: jeffburdges

jeffburdges — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:25:13 -0800

He seems pretty big on the biofules kool aid. :(

By: damn dirty ape

damn dirty ape — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:36:18 -0800

Anyone is better than Norm Coleman. Seriously. Good luck Franked, but Minnesota sold out to the GOP long ago.

By: luftmensch

luftmensch — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:38:59 -0800

He seems pretty big on the biofules kool aid. :( You ever try making kool-aid with (consumable) ethanol instead of water? Delicious!

By: Kwine

Kwine — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:39:34 -0800

I would definitely look daily at a site where MeFites submitted their personal attempts at drawing the United States/the world/whatever from memory and one such attempt was posted per day. People who like to create affiliated sites may steal this idea from me free of charge.

By: inigo2

inigo2 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:54:17 -0800

Wait...what? AL Franken and FRANLKIN Roosevelt? AL -> FRANL~~KIN~~ See it now?

By: Seekerofsplendor

Seekerofsplendor — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:00:32 -0800

I wish there were more candidates like Al Franken ... Franken is a brilliant veteran TV comedy writer/performer (I even recall him on SNL when he was first billed with that other guy, as "Franken and Davis"). He's also a better-than-average exponent of liberal rhetoric on radio. Maps aside, how does any of that qualify him for the United States Senate?

By: found missing

found missing — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:03:22 -0800

only one qualification needed--that people want him to represent them

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:03:30 -0800

Whoop dee doo. What's his face is as dangerously annoying as his female Bizarro Ann Coulter. And he can't even bowl!

By: Seekerofsplendor

Seekerofsplendor — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:11:04 -0800

only one qualification needed--that people want him to represent them Oh, I see. So no one really reeds any real qualifications for being responsible for major decisions in a high federal or state office, except being likable by the populace. Wow, this democracy thing has come a long way.

By: Seekerofsplendor

Seekerofsplendor — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:13:35 -0800

Sorry. "really reeds" should be really needs, obviously.

By: found missing

found missing — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:14:33 -0800

That's a very cynical view. You must be a republican sensing an impending democratic juggernaut. Condolences.

By: RedEmma

RedEmma — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:29:56 -0800

Good luck Franke[n], but Minnesota sold out to the GOP long ago. how again? Minnesota has voted democratic in every election since 1972, and is poised to do so again. not that i think Franken will win, unfortunately. i like the guy, but he's a weak candidate. i don't think Ma and Pa Nelson are going to vote for a celebrity again, not after Ventura.

By: Spatch

Spatch — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:35:41 -0800

That's nothing. Give me a slice of American cheese and I'll bite you a perfect Idaho.

By: swift

swift — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:23 -0800

Related: elephant self-portrait video. i.e. practice makes perfect.

By: Alison

Alison — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:05:26 -0800

Some friends and I used to do this to kill time in our more boring college classes. I noticed a friend sketching a map of the lower 48 instead of sleeping as usual, and realized that it would be a lot more subtle than my usual crossword puzzle. After a few sessions most of the people in our little corner of the classroom picked it up. Each of us developed our own techniques for getting the details right, and each of us started with our own home states. One person spiraled outwards from Iowa, another filled in New England and worked southwards. I always started in the Southeast corner and worked north and then west. It's definitely an acquired skill. My first maps always had the western states disproportionately small, but I improved over time. One friend, the ringleader of this particular activity, used to draw all kinds of maps from memory. I was especially impressed by his European and African maps, major rivers included. Personally, I live drawing horses and donkeys from memory. There is some difficulty to drawing the legs just right.

By: craven_morhead

craven_morhead — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:14:47 -0800

seekerofsplendor, that's right, nobody needs "real" qualifications other than being well-liked for the job. The theory is that the populous will elect those they feel can best represent their concerns, or "represent" them. There isn't an exam or anything, aside from the one in the public eye.

By: briank

briank — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:22:47 -0800

inigo2 -- go back and look at the original comment: Of course, Franken is no FDR, despite the similarities of their first names. It was a lame remark by ubiquity, made only lamer by the fact that he screwed it up. See it now?

By: Herodios

Herodios — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:39:53 -0800

only one qualification needed--that people want him to represent them Oh, I see. So no one really reeds any real qualifications for being responsible for major decisions in a high federal or state office, except being likable by the populace. Seekerofsplendor, how did you get "being likable" from "people want him to represent them"? Any number of right bastards have been elected to public office in the US over the years, bastards who either said, did, or promised the right things to their constituency. LBJ and Nixon, to name two. Many many more at the state and local level. Likability is one reason someone gets elected, but far from the only one. Nor is it predictive of performance in office. Please refer to US Constitution Article I and Amendment XVII. You'll find no requirement of previous experience, education, financial assets, family, membership in secret societies, nor land ownership. For damned good reasons. found missing is quite right. Whether a candidate is qualified for the office is the aggregate judgment of the constituency -- which is to say, that people want him to represent them. Because this democracy thing -- goofed up as it is -- has come a long way.

By: Herodios

Herodios — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:41:57 -0800

Oh, I see craven_morhead covered much the same ground a few minutes ago. Didn't mean to pile on.

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:48:06 -0800

So no one really reeds any real qualifications for being responsible for major decisions in a high federal or state office, except being likable by the populace. "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those others that have been tried." -- Winston Churchill

By: Herodios

Herodios — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:53:22 -0800

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those others that have been tried." -- Winston Churchill Rat own.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:00:21 -0800

I hear Jesse Ventura can draw an almost perfect smiley face from memory. That's former Resident Fellow of the Kennedy School of Government Ventura to you, bub.

By: Atom Eyes

Atom Eyes — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:06:47 -0800

"Under My Thumb": Al Franken does a killer Mick Jagger impression on TV's Solid Gold (Quicktime)

By: mattholomew

mattholomew — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:17:44 -0800

I am becoming a fan of wealth redistribution through progressive taxation. If you're getting the majority of benefits, why shouldn't you contribute more? You should. And that's why you already do.

By: ericbop

ericbop — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:39:36 -0800

I'm not surprised. He also designed the logos and album cover for "America's Greatest Hits," as weand Crosby, Stills, and Nash. Oh wait. That was Phil Hartman.

By: ericbop

ericbop — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:40:01 -0800

-as well as

By: chuq

chuq — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:00:42 -0800

Loyola University New Orleans, freshman year World Civilization I with Fr. Ben Wren -- he had us learn to draw a freehand map of the Eurasian land mass, with prominent cities labelled in Latin, Greek, Chinese and Japanese by the end of the semester. That was quite a class.

By: inigo2

inigo2 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:23:26 -0800

See it now? I know, I saw what he did; so I tried to help out by making that connection between their first names (turning "Franklin" into "Al").

By: dawiz

dawiz — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:56:28 -0800

America's penis (Flordia) is way too small.

By: Citizen Premier

Citizen Premier — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:40:06 -0800

But does he remember Poland?

By: geekyguy

geekyguy — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:27:58 -0800

I could, maybe, draw the Nine Nations of North America as taught to me in middle school. No, I guess I probably couldn't. Seriously, what hippie on the Eugene School Board in the early eighties approved that for addition to the curriculum?

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:49:34 -0800

SeekerOfSplendor: "Maps aside, how does any of that qualify him for the United States Senate?" That's unfair. That's like saying, "aside from his familiarity with the pigskin, why does that professional football player have the qualifications to play football?" If you can draw a map of the US freehand that actually looks kinda like a map of the US? You get to run for senate if you want. Heck, they let people run who can't draw water from a faucet. In fact I'd like to see McCain or Obama do this trick. Maybe Franken can teach a seminar. It'd be cool if all citizens learned how to do this. Back when I was in elementary school they made me learn the names of the states and the capitals, but I didn't have to actually draw it out. I'm a kinetic learner. In hindsight maybe that woulda helped me learn them better.

By: dirtynumbangelboy

dirtynumbangelboy — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:05:05 -0800

I am becoming a fan of wealth redistribution through progressive taxation. If you're getting the majority of benefits, why shouldn't you contribute more? You should. And that's why you already do. Errr... generally not, is my understanding, on a cents-on-the-dollar basis. Largely because the wealthier you are, a) the more tax breaks you have access to, and b) the wealthier you are, the faster your wealth increases, faster than taxation does.

By: ZachsMind

ZachsMind — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:37:41 -0800

I finally got to see the video... People start boing as he drew Texas. I thought at first it was because they noticed he was drawing it lopsided. You try drawing Texas. It IS lopsided. You can't draw it without it being lopsided. Then it occurred to me they were booing Texas cuz that's where they think Shrub is from. George W. Bush was NOT born in Texas. He was born in New Haven, Connecticut. It is true he spent some of his childhood in Texas. I spent some of my childhood in Michigan, but I was born in Texas. That makes me a Texan, not a Michigander. Shrub ain't a Texan. So... boo Connecticut!

By: aeschenkarnos

aeschenkarnos — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:10:42 -0800

Cool trick. :) I can draw a chessboard from memory, myself. (Also Scrabble. Also Monopoly. And though I can't draw the board from memory, my knowledge of European geography is pretty good, albeit 108 years out of date. "Trieste? It's on the sea, in Austria-Hungary, between Tyrolia and Armenia.")