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	<title>Comments on: Quad Quadricycle</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:17:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Quad Quadricycle</title>
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		<description>Destined for display at this year&apos;s Burning Man,  a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/15/the-dogsled-pedal-powered-quad-debuts-at-woodward&quot;&gt;very&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loqu.com/the-dogsled-is-the-cruise-that-woodward-dream-of/blogs/ange-1636&quot;&gt; impressive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirstybeachlandscaping.com/quadbike/index.html&quot;&gt;quadricycle&lt;/a&gt; is out and about in an early appearance. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://presurfer.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An explanation of the machine&apos;s name is in &lt;a href=&quot;http://jalopnik.com/400352/the-dogsled-quadcycle-rolling-at-green-cruise-woodward&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:09:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>		<category>quadricycle</category>		<category>humanpoweredvehicle</category>		<category>cycling</category>		<category>green</category>		<category>transportation</category>
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		<title>By: Confess, Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221872</link>	
		<description>Not really as impressive as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fietscafe.nl/engels/bierfiets.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:17:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Confess, Fletch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: clearly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221876</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d ride it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:22:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clearly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: clearly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221878</link>	
		<description>Great use of the HPV tag.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:24:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ardgedee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221886</link>	
		<description>One wheel drive? Is that a good choice over sandy terrain?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Confess, Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221887</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;One wheel drive? Is that a good choice over sandy terrain?&lt;/em&gt;

As a member of the winningest Boulder Kinetics team ever I would have to say....no...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:41:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Confess, Fletch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kronos_to_Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221895</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;*blushes* Excuse me. Got rid of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221878&quot;&gt;tag&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:48:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kronos_to_Earth</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221896</link>	
		<description>Sure, sign me up, I&apos;ll pedal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:49:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ambrosia Voyeur</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221900</link>	
		<description>Sweet! I like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/ambrosiavoyeur/2601763882/&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; better, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:55:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221901</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m impressed by the lack of tacked-on shite.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:55:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheJoven</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221906</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m always torn on these homemade contraptions between the &apos;hey, awesome, you made something&quot; and &quot;holy shit that thing is &lt;b&gt;HEAVY&lt;/b&gt;&quot;. I need to find a good beginner structural design book that covers the basics, so that at least they can be heavy and effecient instead of heavy and still weak because of the random &apos;hey, lets put a speed hole right here where the highest stress is!&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:03:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221907</link>	
		<description>I like how they built their whole frame out of wood first.  It would have been pretty cool if they&apos;d left it wood too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:05:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: supermedusa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221916</link>	
		<description>thank you for giving my husband some sort of burningman-invention-nerdquake-artcar-newwheel-inspired aneurism.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:22:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sublimity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221939</link>	
		<description>How does it steer?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:07:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: punkbitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221944</link>	
		<description>it is steered by hope.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:18:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mannequito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221949</link>	
		<description>&amp;amp; fear.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:26:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kronos_to_Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221950</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got to type faster. The front left-hand rider has his hand on a tiller-like device in the photo at the top from the second link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:29:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221954</link>	
		<description>These wheels have chains that run straight to the soul of man. The right wheel, friends, the wheel of love.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:31:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jouke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221957</link>	
		<description>Indeed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user/77348&quot;&gt;Confess&lt;/a&gt;, when I encounter the &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SHqrwiyqYdU/SCxRtGb0BbI/AAAAAAAAAFA/0OxgtHPDt2k/Het%2BFiets%2BCafe.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DgtAUCDBVMTAYf5rM6xZZw&amp;h=480&amp;w=416&amp;sz=25&amp;hl=en&amp;start=4&amp;um=1&amp;tbnid=FAcvUpwh6sZMoM:&amp;tbnh=129&amp;tbnw=112&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfiets%2Bcafe%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3D6bD%26sa%3DG&quot;&gt;bierfiets&lt;/a&gt; in Utrecht with a loudly cheering &amp;amp; beering &amp;amp; pedaling lot it always makes me smile. 
These californians know nothing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:43:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: not_on_display</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221969</link>	
		<description>Hey, I could slack off and the other three people wouldn&apos;t notice!  That beats a tandem bike anyday!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:13:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mosk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221979</link>	
		<description>I like it, and find it to be an impressive piece of fabrication...but that steering linkage is straight Rube Goldberg. Christ, that&apos;s a lot of exposed chains and gears! I wonder why they went nutty on the steering when they did such a nice job with the drive train? I hope they all put their hair up and keep their hands in their laps, or someone is going to come home missing a finger or two. Apart from the steering, I think this is one of the coolest things I&apos;ve seen in a long time. Thanks for posting this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:46:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roygbv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221986</link>	
		<description>Needs more carbon fiber.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:05:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: b1tr0t</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2221996</link>	
		<description>There will be blood.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:42:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flaterik</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222001</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Yeah, well, my &quot;art&quot; car needs an engine, but it shoots snow. So there.
&lt;small&gt;I&apos;ve been working on it every free moment for a month, forgive me if I&apos;m a bit single minded.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:04:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waraw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222031</link>	
		<description>Ok, I am no engineer.  Could someone explain to me why it&apos;s better to have the spokes go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirstybeachlandscaping.com/quadbike/page05.html&quot;&gt;to the center of the rim&lt;/a&gt; than to the outside?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:37:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222032</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s the way it works with convnetional bicycles, too. The spokes make triangles, the strogest shape.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:57:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ardgedee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222047</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222032&quot; title=&quot;fixedgear wrote in comment #2222032&quot;&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;That&apos;s the way it works with conventional bicycles, too.&lt;/i&gt;

Radial spokes are more likely to flex when there&apos;s torque applied to the hub. (This is why you might see radial spokes on the front wheel of a road bike, but never the back). Spokes that traverse the depth of an imaginary cylinder described by the rim and hub make the wheel more resistant to deflection.

It looks like where the spokes cross are also welded. Dunno if that helps, but it can&apos;t hurt.

I&apos;m trying to suppress jokes about Detroit iron here because this is a really cool vehicle, even if it&apos;s not particularly practical.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:18:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222048</link>	
		<description>If you watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_6dDCCHlg&quot;&gt;this video&lt;/a&gt; you can get an idea of the kind of forces at play (albeit on a completely different order of magnitude).  Pay close attention to the tires a little way in.  I totally do this on my folding bicycle &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:45:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mandal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222050</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:53:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: acro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222058</link>	
		<description>It looks like the moon rover, for the 21st century.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:38:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222093</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;It looks like where the spokes cross are also welded. Dunno if that helps, but it can&apos;t hurt.
&lt;/em&gt;
Tied and soldered used to be popular, particularly for track wheels, but Jobst says don&apos;t bother.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:09:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222106</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It looks like where the spokes cross are also welded. Dunno if that helps, but it can&apos;t hurt.&lt;/i&gt;

Only if they&apos;re re-tempered, IMO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:37:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oneirodynia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222108</link>	
		<description>Knobbies are a huge pain in the ass if the playa gets even a little bit wet. Better to go with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/loupiote/1374264721/&quot;&gt;steel,&lt;/a&gt; IMO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:39:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: isopraxis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222138</link>	
		<description>It needs more rust . . . and a jacob&apos;s ladder or two would&apos;t hurt either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:39:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222214</link>	
		<description>Needs more flair.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:15:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yeara</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222316</link>	
		<description>It Looks way heavier than four pairs of bicycles put together. How are they going to get it up hills?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:52:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ryanrs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2222708</link>	
		<description>Hills?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:58:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quinbus Flestrin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74174/Quad-Quadricycle#2223482</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s cool and all, but my reaction that nest of over engineered structure was &quot;simplificate and add more lightness.&quot; Unless they are going to hang a lot more than four people on, it I can&apos;t quite see why they would need that quite that much steel.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Quinbus Flestrin</dc:creator>
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