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	<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:02:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Learn from us, very much...</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://rcrdlbl.com/2008/07/11/video_thrwbck_lee_hazlewood_nancy_sinatra_some_velvet_morning_1967_&quot;&gt;Some&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cultcargo.net/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=113&quot;&gt;Velvet&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://my-retrospace.blogspot.com/2008/08/why-i-care-about-some-velvet-morning.html&quot;&gt;Morning&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Velvet_Morning&quot;&gt;When&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.post-rockist.com/2008/05/24/some-velvet-morning/&quot;&gt;I&apos;m&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.somevelvetmorning.net/&quot;&gt;Straight&lt;/a&gt; - the  &quot;Cowboy Psychedelia&quot; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/08/lee_hazlewood_19292007.html &quot;&gt;Lee Hazlewood&lt;/a&gt; in duet with &lt;a href=&quot;http://memorexyears.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_archive.html&quot;&gt;Nancy Sinatra&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNX7LzhRMaM&quot;&gt;its&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6z-XlkyYk8&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wJ2t0kyRTA&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1tv5cCvaI&quot;&gt;covers&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:51:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Artw</dc:creator>		<category>SomeVelvetMorning</category>		<category>LeeHazlewood</category>		<category>NancySinatra</category>		<category>Psychedelic</category>		<category>Cowboy</category>		<category>Duet</category>		<category>Music</category>		<category>60s</category>		<category>Phaedra</category>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222524</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/63589/Lee-Hazlewood-19292007&quot;&gt;Previous&lt;/a&gt; discussion of Hazelwood.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:02:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222554</link>	
		<description>The Lydia Lunch cover, FTW.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:47:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: psychoticreaction</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222556</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsTLHZjG2j8&quot;&gt;also&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattoxic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222583</link>	
		<description>I love the violin break in Lightning&apos;s Town. I listen to an oldies AM radio station purely for the chance of catching songs like these.

Thanks for the post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:28:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222603</link>	
		<description>Nice cover of Hazlewood/Sinatra tune &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad2m-lHlOQU&quot;&gt;Marriage Made In Heaven&lt;/a&gt;, from the Tindersticks/Isabella Rossellini&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:17:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Heretic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222609</link>	
		<description>Thanks very much for this. This song has puzzled and delighted me for years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:33:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Xoebe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222619</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9Kvq_jx-U&amp;feature=related&quot;&gt;This &lt;/a&gt;is kinda weird.

Hazlewood apparently moved to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bggeCwBR6Y&quot;&gt;Sweden &lt;/a&gt;to save his son from the draft.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sloe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222650</link>	
		<description>Lee motherfucking Hazlewood</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:19:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: louche mustachio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222674</link>	
		<description> Wow, the Lydia Lunch cover knocks me back to when I was 18 and didn&apos;t know what the fuck. My roommate had that album, and I found that song very disorienting and strange, though not unpleasant. I do remember having the distinct impression that the velvet morning in question was probably a long way off if straightness of any sort was required.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222693</link>	
		<description>Aw man, there goes one of the best &apos;staches since Sunny Bono.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:04:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bjrn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222704</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/2003/169.shtml&quot;&gt;a version performed by Eedie &amp;amp; Eddie And The Reggaebots&lt;/a&gt; (created by Peter Langston).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:25:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediocre</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222717</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always said you can tell a lot about a person by which version of Some Velvet Morning they prefer. 

Lydia Lunch? Closeted goth (coffin&apos;d?)

Vanilla Fudge? Recovering hippie.

Slowdive? Want a hug, man? You look down. 

I prefer the original personally, I probably listen to my vinyl copy of that album at least twice a month. Yes, Some Velvet Morning is my favorite track, but &quot;Sand&quot; is also a very creepy song, and their version of Jackson defeats Cash in my book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:54:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spartacusroosevelt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222724</link>	
		<description>Xoebe:

Cowboy in Sweden has got to be my favorite Lee solo record. Just a crazy, drugged up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpxtdxaqAHQ&quot;&gt;country/hippie&lt;/a&gt; record with some Nancy surrogates who have strong Swedish accents.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:21:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ersatz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222746</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.last.fm/music/My+Dying+Bride/_/Some+Velvet+Morning&quot;&gt;My Dying Bride&lt;/a&gt; also had a cover version of this.
&lt;em&gt;
I do remember having the distinct impression that the velvet morning in question was probably a long way off if straightness of any sort was required.&lt;/em&gt;

Heh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:42:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rongorongo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222755</link>	
		<description>I love the video you linked to above spartacusroosevelt - that can only have been a huge amount of fun to have made.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:02:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PeterMcDermott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222767</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;their version of Jackson defeats Cash in my book&lt;/em&gt;

I agree. You really believe Lee is gonna go whereas Cash sounds too pussywhipped to really follow through.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2222824</link>	
		<description>Me, I lean towards the first &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNX7LzhRMaM&quot;&gt;Primal Scream&lt;/a&gt; version, but I like their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pthi1WXqc3A&quot;&gt;Swastika Eyes&lt;/a&gt; sound. Of course, I hadn&apos;t heard the original until yesterday evening, and it has the Primal Scream version beat hands down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:37:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223039</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Rowland S Howard &amp;amp;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Lydia Lunch cover, FTW.&lt;/em&gt;

There&apos;s no way that was going unfixed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:58:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223041</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Slowdive? [...] You look down.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, where else would you expect a shoegazer to look?!??</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:00:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spartacusroosevelt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223048</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLJIi6SSZ0&amp;feature=related&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is Lee trying to recapture the horse on a beach motif by himself. Also from Cowboy in Sweden.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:12:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joaquim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223091</link>	
		<description>When I first heard the Hazlewood/Sinatra duets, I got it fixed in my mind that the three hits -- Summer Wine, Some Velvet Morning, and Jackson -- were a trilogy.  In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQiDs9tKZv4&quot;&gt;Summer Wine&lt;/a&gt;, it&apos;s Phaedra who seduces him and steals his spurs.  In Velvet Morning, he&apos;s promising to tell a new woman about Phaedra (as soon as he gets over his addiction to Summer Wine, i.e., when he&apos;s straight), and in Jackson, his marriage to that new woman (the wedding was in a fever -- maybe on a velvet morning) is dissolving.  I don&apos;t know where I came up with that, probably from the same place I got my explanations of Macarthur Park and American Pie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:10:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223187</link>	
		<description>Almost forgot! My second pet rat was named Phaedra, after this song (the Rowland &amp;amp; Lydia version, naturally)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:53:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: desuetude</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223518</link>	
		<description>Lee&apos;s original is still my favorite. I don&apos;t really love the covers, for one reason or another. 

On &lt;em&gt;Cake or Death&lt;/em&gt;, there&apos;s a verse of Some Velvet Morning sung by his eight-year-old granddaughter. Phaedra. Who assumed that this song was written for her, of course. &quot;I love you, grandpa! Peace out!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:49:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223806</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Rowland S Howard &amp;amp; Lydia Lunch cover, FTW.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks! I thought she&apos;d just pitched her voice down!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:36:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223833</link>	
		<description>Were you being sarcastic? That was from the Berlin period, when there were all kinds of crossovers &amp;amp; collaborations around the ex-Birthday Party / Bad Seeds, These Immortal Souls, Crime &amp;amp; the City Solution, Die Haut, Lydia Lunch etc, not to mention Wim Wenders.

Rowland&apos;s got such a great gravelly rock voice, to go with his jarring guitar work. &lt;em&gt;Marry Me (lie! lie!)&lt;/em&gt; is another big fave of mine from those times.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:13:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223861</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Were you being sarcastic?&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, no, Ubu, that wasn&apos;t sarcasm. Fact is, I have huge, gaping, galaxy-sized holes in my knowledge of 80&apos;s rock. By the time the 80s rolled around, I was really deep into African stuff (pop and traditional) and lots of other styles and genres from around the world. Add to that the intense focus on the &quot;experimental&quot; or &quot;avant garde&quot; (mainly improvised) music that I was involved in myself, plus a sort of self-imposed exile from &quot;rock&quot;, and the end result is, well, what must seem to some folks to be a surprising ignorance concerning certain very famous musicians of that period. I&apos;m not especially proud of that, BTW, it&apos;s not some badge of honor, as far as I&apos;m concerned, and little by little I&apos;m discovering the jewels of that era that I&apos;d ignored. You mentioned the Birthday Party, which I only just discovered a couple of years ago... great band.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:52:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223865</link>	
		<description>Ah, so connecting the dots in case you didn&apos;t know this already, Rowland was the Birthday Party&apos;s guitarist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:59:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223909</link>	
		<description>Nope, didn&apos;t know that either, Ubu. Hadn&apos;t gotten to that point of finding out about individual band members. Sigh... so many things to learn, so little time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:23:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: desuetude</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223942</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Hadn&apos;t gotten to that point of finding out about individual band members.&lt;/em&gt;

It is a reliable thing to say that pretty much anyone who has played any instrument on stage with Nick Cave ever = has an awesome musical thing going on in their own right.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:27:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223950</link>	
		<description>Next time I see Nick perform, I&apos;m going to perch my ass on stage &amp;amp; tootle out a few notes on a kazoo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:47:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74189/Learn-from-us-very-much#2223968</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;m going to perch my ass on stage &amp;amp; tootle out a few notes on a kazoo.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, then, study up on your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/53938/the-downsouth-submarine&quot;&gt;kazoo history&lt;/a&gt;, then, so Nick&apos;ll be doubly impressed! 

Then again, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/72371/Klassic-Kazoo&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; might impress him the most, but I don&apos;t think you&apos;ve got the right equipment for doing it that way...</description>
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