Comments on: Mythbusters and the Mona Lisa Overdrive

Mythbusters and the Mona Lisa Overdrive

Dave Faris — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:43:39 -0800

Mythbusters and the Mona Lisa in Overdrive. In a demonstration at Nvidia's NVISION show, Jamie and Adam provide a graphic demonstration of the power of multicore processors vs. a single CPU.

By: An Infinity Of Monkeys

An Infinity Of Monkeys — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:50:31 -0800

That should read "'Metafilter's Own' Adam", should it not? I was labouring under the impression that he belongs to us.

By: Pope Guilty

Pope Guilty — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:53:48 -0800

Just his soul, Monkeys, just his soul.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:57:58 -0800

I don't know. I think Adam has forsaken us. The "Mefi" in masking tape on the overview set seems to have disappeared now that they've begun the new season. I think we may have taken him for granted a little.

By: mazola

mazola — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:51 -0800

There's paint in my computer?

By: GuyZero

GuyZero — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:06:43 -0800

That was pretty awesome. Pity to only use such a machine once...

By: mrzarquon

mrzarquon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:13:00 -0800

oh, im sure they will find creative ways to use that a few more times. possibly a way to retry the "running in the rain" myth....

By: Cool Papa Bell

Cool Papa Bell — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:13:14 -0800

That was pretty awesome. Pity to only use such a machine once... Once? I want to drive down the street with two of them firing at buildings, cars and bikers on both sides of me. Mona Lisa! BAM! Mona Lisa! BAM! Oh hai! BAM! I'm in ur street painting joo! BAM!

By: NoMich

NoMich — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:17:00 -0800

Meh. I won't be impressed until I see it reproduce a Jackson Pollack painting.

By: Sangermaine

Sangermaine — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:17:14 -0800

This post has deceptively little to do with William Gibson. I'm disappointed.

By: ericbop

ericbop — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:25:18 -0800

Painting takes balls.

By: Malor

Malor — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:28:31 -0800

This is marketing fluff. It's not about 'multicore processors versus CPU', since most modern CPUs are multicore. Rather, it's about the massively parallel processing in modern GPUs. And it's not even vaguely a useful comparison. It's just a metaphor. All this video actually does is show you how much faster a thousand paint nozzles is than one. Yay. I'm enlightened. Thank you, NVidia marketing department!

By: lothar

lothar — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:29:44 -0800

Do the barrels have autoreload? You could sequence the paintballs for each picture element and paint frames of animation, or totally different paintings every few seconds. Imagine this, oh I don't know..., at a toll booth. Or a rail yard. Or a TSA airpost security line... BAM! Tie-dye for you! BAM! Black for you, emo boy! BAM! Pink! It's the new black! BAM! Black! It's back in style already! BAM! Stormtrooper uniform for you! BAM! Instant National Socialist flag and SS uniform, Mr Businessman. BAM! SS uniform and Hitler 'stache! Hah, Godwinned performance art! BAM! It's not easy being green! BAM! London underground map! ...

By: meta_eli

meta_eli — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:41:15 -0800

80 nanoseconds? Really? And yeah, what's with the William Gibson head fake?

By: netbros

netbros — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:47:44 -0800

He's posting over on AskMe tonight, so he forsaketh not.

By: subgear

subgear — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:25:08 -0800

Little known fact: after only two such demonstrations, the machine grew so despondent over its inability to create anything original, it cut off its own gearbox.

By: knowles

knowles — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:36:47 -0800

Oh, it's a grid. They can make it paint anything. ANYTHING!

By: lupus_yonderboy

lupus_yonderboy — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:22:11 -0800

Such waste! Our descendants will curse us for our obsession with waste. But I couldn't help laughing.

By: salishsea

salishsea — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:43:51 -0800

Hmmm...I thought this post was going to be about the Mona Lisa, processing speeds and nanoseconds. Still...it was pretty funny, in a "we is in ur science fare" kind of way.

By: maschnitz

maschnitz — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:59:20 -0800

"Homer, you've got it set on 'whore!'"

By: Rumple

Rumple — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:05:35 -0800

I think they just repurposed the million round per minute gun.

By: asavage

asavage — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:24:27 -0800

It's milliseconds. 80 Milliseconds. I wish the barrels had autoreload. As it is it takes 1 guy 3 hours to load the thing.

By: Chuckles

Chuckles — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:27:50 -0800

This one is kind of the opposite..

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:32:58 -0800

I was labouring under the impression that he belongs to us. We should brand him, just to be safe. We wouldn't want any buster rustlers to steal him.

By: mrzarquon

mrzarquon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:34:17 -0800

> It's milliseconds. 80 Milliseconds. I wish the barrels had autoreload. As it is it takes 1 guy 3 hours to load the thing. Well obviously if you had a GPU, could use 1,100 GPUguys to reload much faster.

By: mrzarquon

mrzarquon — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:43:06 -0800

It reminds me of a show I watched on some channel (honestly, if it doesn't have Anthony Bourdain, Adam Savage, or Alton Brown, I wont remember the name or time slot also why do I like smart people named A*) {why am I using the small tag so much?} Anyway, guy designed a communion wine dispenser for his very large church, that would fill an entire tray of little plastic cups with the perfect amount of sanctified wine. It took him twice as long to design a mechanism to put all those little plastic cups onto the trays fast enough to make the wine dispenser worth using. Before the cups were filled and placed onto the tray by hand. Until they were placed automatically, the wine filling part took 5% of the time, and the arranging of the cups took 94% of the time (1% reserved for error and 'tasting').

By: Rumple

Rumple — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:49:12 -0800

Seems like the communion guy could have just duct-taped a few of these together. Also, asavage, I will happily come down and load that sucker for you. using a goatse template, of course

By: Clay201

Clay201 — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:49:47 -0800

So... you're saying this is not a good thread to read to learn about multi-core and single core CPUs and how they differ in function and performance? That's actually the thread I was hoping to find here. (Which is not to say that the Mona Lisa thing wasn't neat.)

By: PercussivePaul

PercussivePaul — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:28:51 -0800

It's a cool little marketing stunt, no question about that, but I guess I'm a little disappointed to find out that the Mythbusters are for hire. It's like finding out a childhood hero sold out, except they're adulthood heroes, and dammit, I didn't have many of those.

By: DU

DU — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:17:28 -0800

I'm a little disappointed to find out that the Mythbusters are for hire I assume (or maybe "hope" would be a better word) they at least built the machine themselves.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:09:54 -0800

I'm a little disappointed to find out that the Mythbusters are for hire. Do you think those full-sized fiberglass sharks and crashtest dummies just grow on trees?

By: cptnrandy

cptnrandy — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:50:53 -0800

Sold out? I thought it was pretty clear that they were special effects artists and Jamie's business was specifically set up to be "for hire". And very little of their testing results are peer reviewed . . .

By: DU

DU — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:26:47 -0800

Mythbusters is massively peer-reviewed, if you count millions of armchair "hackers" as peers. (But seriously, they've gone back and redone many myths based on procedural objections and so forth. For a TV show, it's pretty good actual real science.)

By: opsin

opsin — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:30:25 -0800

I assume (or maybe "hope" would be a better word) they at least built the machine themselves. In one of the videos of it, Adam comments that they designed it and it was put together by the guys at what used to be the ILM model shop, by the guys he used to work with. And frankly, I don't mind that they didn't put the time into building something that big - that wasn't to be used on Mythbusters - themselves.

By: Foosnark

Foosnark — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:45:53 -0800

Having attended the conference myself... the whole thing was a combination of awesome technology, crazy stuff, pointlessness, and whoring for NVidia. So this was the highlight, and pretty representative of the show as a whole.

By: opsin

opsin — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:26:28 -0800

Found this on Youtube thanks to the OPP... Some totally awesome and hilarious stuff comes up in the Q&A section as well.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:43:46 -0800

for what it's worth, it's a decent visual metaphor for the current discussion among hardware kids about the potential for using our gpus as cpus, since our gpus are so much faster.

By: quin

quin — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:56 -0800

I thought it was a very cool stunt. Particularly the slow motion shot at the end. And, while I haven't played paint-ball in a few years, I would totally start again if I could use one of these to defend my base. It would be the fucking Metal Storm of the paint-ball world.

By: meta_eli

meta_eli — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:15:23 -0800

I'm a little disappointed to find out that the Mythbusters are for hire. They were handing out drinks at JavaOne two years ago. I'm guessing they do the whole SF tech conference circuit.

By: EndsOfInvention

EndsOfInvention — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:52:25 -0800

Found this on Youtube thanks to the OPP... Some totally awesome and hilarious stuff comes up in the Q&A section as well. That talk was awesome, thanks for the link. The two slo-mo videos he shows are hilarious.

By: SuzySmith

SuzySmith — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0800

That was awesome. And, I want this for my vehicle. A huge painting on the side of my minivan would rock :D

By: Chuckles

Chuckles — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:06:18 -0800

Wow opsin, that talk has got to be posted! In fact, I've got the post ready, but is two Mythbusters posts in the same day too much?!?!?!

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:25:33 -0800

As if.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:01:28 -0800

Credit-card companies killed Mythbusters segment on RFID vulnerabilities

By: Chuckles

Chuckles — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:55:29 -0800

From the BoingBoing page:

heck out the first two minutes of this clip of Mythbusters' Adam Savage telling the folks at the HOPE hackercon about how the Discovery Channel was bullied by big credit-card companies out of airing a program about how crappy the security in RFID tags is.

That's a misquote. He never makes any conclusion about whether the security is crappy or not. The credit card companies quashed it (or contributed to its quashing, at least) because of the prospect of public scrutiny alone, irrespective of the conclusion. It sucks that BoingBoing misquotes so badly, but it is worse because the truth is a more damning indictment.